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steve · 09-28-2002, 09:05 PM

Im not sure if i should put this here or on newbs and newcomers but ill try it here.

Why did the ring have to be destroyed, i mean i know why, but wouldnt they have done somethign much easier, cause we see that Sauron did send the nazgul to get the ring and not orcs or some other creature, couldnt they have just tied a weight onto the ring and droped it inot the ocean? I dont think Sauron had anything that could go to the bottom of the ocean and actuially find the ring.

elengil · 09-28-2002, 09:25 PM

The ring had to be destroyed *not only* to keep Sauron from recovering it, but because so long as the Ring survives, so will Sauron, and as we all see at the battle before the Morannon, Sauron's forces were still mighty enough to have destroyed all of Middle Earth even without the Ring. He simply had the man-power.

The Ring had to be destroyed in order to once and for all destroy Sauron, and it was only by the destruction of the ring (and the convenient rescue by the eagles) that the army before the gates survived. Otherwise Aragorn, Elessar, Estel, Elfstone, ETC would've ended up dead too!

hobbitlass · 09-28-2002, 11:06 PM

Just a thought... Are you in any way related to Boromir?! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Alatariel · 09-29-2002, 03:08 AM

And they said that even if they dropped it in the sea, it would still survive and after millions of years, the seas and lands would change, and it would turn up again somewhere else, possibly out of reach of the "goodies", so eventually Sauron would get it.

Nilwen · 09-29-2002, 06:29 AM

I think that If thay dropped it in the sea,The story would not have been so good.

Isilya · 09-29-2002, 09:42 AM

Exactly, if they had just dropped it into the sea, the story wouldn't have been that great, or that long. Besides, eventually, I think that some sea creature (kraken, maybe?) would have been bended to Sauron's forces, and retrieved it.

TolkienGurl · 09-29-2002, 09:51 AM

Remember - "the Ring has a will of its own. It wants to be found." It would discover some way to be found by an evil creature that would gladly take it to Sauron.

Neferchoirwen · 09-29-2002, 10:42 AM

On the creative side of things, if the ring was tied to an anvil and dropped to the sea, then it's most likely that a mermaid or some sea creature would find the ring. Concerning the anvil, the dwarves would be hailed as heroes of ME because of their contrbution of the anvil. As for the mermaid, or some other sea creature, then they would be corrupted because there would be no way for any of them to get to Mordor, unless Saurom would want to rule form the sea. If that would have happened, then ME or any place for that matter wouldn't exist because the seas would engulf ME and all the other places, and Sauron would rule.

Just sharing a stupid thought... forgive me if it sounds irritating. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

09-28-2002, 09:05 PM	#1
steve Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edoras... er, Philadelphia Posts: 191	other posibilites Im not sure if i should put this here or on newbs and newcomers but ill try it here. Why did the ring have to be destroyed, i mean i know why, but wouldnt they have done somethign much easier, cause we see that Sauron did send the nazgul to get the ring and not orcs or some other creature, couldnt they have just tied a weight onto the ring and droped it inot the ocean? I dont think Sauron had anything that could go to the bottom of the ocean and actuially find the ring. __________________ MAGIC SHOP! Spells of Mass Destruction 20% off! Today Only!

09-28-2002, 09:25 PM	#2
elengil Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: eryn lasgalen Posts: 91	The ring had to be destroyed not only to keep Sauron from recovering it, but because so long as the Ring survives, so will Sauron, and as we all see at the battle before the Morannon, Sauron's forces were still mighty enough to have destroyed all of Middle Earth even without the Ring. He simply had the man-power. The Ring had to be destroyed in order to once and for all destroy Sauron, and it was only by the destruction of the ring (and the convenient rescue by the eagles) that the army before the gates survived. Otherwise Aragorn, Elessar, Estel, Elfstone, ETC would've ended up dead too! __________________ No fairer words were ever spoke - Than of immortal Elvish folk - Who shone forth bright eternal light - When under stars they first awoke

09-28-2002, 11:06 PM	#3
hobbitlass Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: next to the fire keeping warm Posts: 471	Just a thought... Are you in any way related to Boromir?! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Just because a person has the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

09-29-2002, 03:08 AM	#4
Alatariel Wight Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Cliffs of Insanity Posts: 178	And they said that even if they dropped it in the sea, it would still survive and after millions of years, the seas and lands would change, and it would turn up again somewhere else, possibly out of reach of the "goodies", so eventually Sauron would get it. __________________ You mean you'll put down your rock and I'll put down my sword and we'll try to kill each other like civilized people?

09-29-2002, 06:29 AM	#5
Nilwen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fangorn Posts: 82	I think that If thay dropped it in the sea,The story would not have been so good. __________________ "It's a shortcut, it's supposed to be hard... if it was easy it would be 'the way'."

09-29-2002, 09:42 AM	#6
Isilya Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: At the bottom of a black hole. Actually, it's quite nice. Hey, is that Elvis?! Posts: 136	Exactly, if they had just dropped it into the sea, the story wouldn't have been that great, or that long. Besides, eventually, I think that some sea creature (kraken, maybe?) would have been bended to Sauron's forces, and retrieved it. __________________ In my opinion, Tolkien is a lot like Alexander Keith's: Those Who Like It, Like It A Lot!! Yay for Great Big Sea!! Aitken Centre, November 22

09-29-2002, 09:51 AM	#7
TolkienGurl Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 637	Remember - "the Ring has a will of its own. It wants to be found." It would discover some way to be found by an evil creature that would gladly take it to Sauron. __________________ Hopes fail. An end comes. We have only a little time to wait now. We are lost in ruin and downfall and there is no escape. -Frodo My Livejournal

09-29-2002, 10:42 AM	#8
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 513	On the creative side of things, if the ring was tied to an anvil and dropped to the sea, then it's most likely that a mermaid or some sea creature would find the ring. Concerning the anvil, the dwarves would be hailed as heroes of ME because of their contrbution of the anvil. As for the mermaid, or some other sea creature, then they would be corrupted because there would be no way for any of them to get to Mordor, unless Saurom would want to rule form the sea. If that would have happened, then ME or any place for that matter wouldn't exist because the seas would engulf ME and all the other places, and Sauron would rule. Just sharing a stupid thought... forgive me if it sounds irritating. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/