Errors of Isildur - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mordor136 · 12-14-2001, 09:43 PM

Hello fellow tolken fans! I thought I would bring your attenion to Isildur. Yea I know he was a great guy and has Aragorn for an heir, but just how wise was he? My main argument is that against council he didn't destroy the ring. It couldn't have ensnared him that fast. He could have rid the free peoples of middle earth of a mortal enemy.
Instead he wanted to "treasure it". In my opinion he had a great name and a dull brain.

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Elrian · 12-14-2001, 10:52 PM

I think it was pride that made him keep the ring and not destroy it.

mordor136 · 12-14-2001, 10:56 PM

Still not clear on the pride part because it
would not hurt his obviouly large ego to destroy it. Its the typical story if you let your ego keep you from the right thing your decendants have to clean up the mess.
still your point is well seen and thanks for making me feel wlcome because im new.

12-14-2001, 11:03 PM

I believe that he wanted to keep it as a "weregild of his father and brother. Check The Council of Elrond. I think it says somewhere in there when Elrond is talking about the Last Alliance.

12-14-2001, 11:07 PM

Ok, the above post was made by me. Typed in the wrong login, and went in as Elffriend, not Elfkor. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

mordor136 · 12-14-2001, 11:19 PM

why dont you try some of my really simple quizzes?

12-22-2001, 10:14 PM

He was under the spell of the Ring just like the other Ringbearers. Even though Sauron no longer had an earthly form, his spirit was still very much alive and through the Ring would have influenced the Ringbearer in an attempt at self-preservation. Why do you think Frodo was unable to destroy the Ring at the very end? It took an accidental misstep by Gollum to send the Ring into the Crack of Doom.

Inziladun · 12-23-2001, 01:04 AM

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He was under the spell of the Ring just like the other Ringbearers.

I agree. Don't be too hard on Isildur. The power of the Ring was so great it was probably beyond any mortal to harm it. Frodo was unable to even throw it into a small fire.
Because it was in Mordor, very close to Mt. Doom, the Ring would have been at nearly the height of its power as well.

12-14-2001, 09:43 PM	#1
mordor136 Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: snowboarding with Morgoth in the void Posts: 221	Errors of Isildur Hello fellow tolken fans! I thought I would bring your attenion to Isildur. Yea I know he was a great guy and has Aragorn for an heir, but just how wise was he? My main argument is that against council he didn't destroy the ring. It couldn't have ensnared him that fast. He could have rid the free peoples of middle earth of a mortal enemy. Instead he wanted to "treasure it". In my opinion he had a great name and a dull brain. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ It's not A.D.D I'm just ignoring you. I'm like a super-hero with no powers or motivation

12-14-2001, 10:52 PM	#2
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	I think it was pride that made him keep the ring and not destroy it. __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

12-14-2001, 10:56 PM	#3
mordor136 Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: snowboarding with Morgoth in the void Posts: 221	Still not clear on the pride part because it would not hurt his obviouly large ego to destroy it. Its the typical story if you let your ego keep you from the right thing your decendants have to clean up the mess. still your point is well seen and thanks for making me feel wlcome because im new. __________________ It's not A.D.D I'm just ignoring you. I'm like a super-hero with no powers or motivation

12-14-2001, 11:19 PM	#6
mordor136 Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: snowboarding with Morgoth in the void Posts: 221	why dont you try some of my really simple quizzes? __________________ It's not A.D.D I'm just ignoring you. I'm like a super-hero with no powers or motivation

12-14-2001, 11:03 PM	#4
Elffriend22 Guest Posts: n/a	I believe that he wanted to keep it as a "weregild of his father and brother. Check The Council of Elrond. I think it says somewhere in there when Elrond is talking about the Last Alliance.

12-14-2001, 11:07 PM	#5
Elfkor Guest Posts: n/a	Ok, the above post was made by me. Typed in the wrong login, and went in as Elffriend, not Elfkor. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

12-22-2001, 10:14 PM	#7
Zimraphel Guest Posts: n/a	He was under the spell of the Ring just like the other Ringbearers. Even though Sauron no longer had an earthly form, his spirit was still very much alive and through the Ring would have influenced the Ringbearer in an attempt at self-preservation. Why do you think Frodo was unable to destroy the Ring at the very end? It took an accidental misstep by Gollum to send the Ring into the Crack of Doom.