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balrogman · 12-23-2003, 10:12 PM

anyone seen any little homages or references to the books? i noticed one in the red book, just as Frodo is finishing up you can clearly read at the top of a paragraph that Sam becomes mayor of the Shire...anyone else see anything like this

Daisy Brambleburr · 12-24-2003, 01:30 PM

Here are a few of the main points I've spotted when Peter Jackson is paying homage to Tolkiens book. -When Treebeard tells the tree in Fangorn (TTT Extended DVD) to 'dig deep, eat earth' (very sorry, can't recall exact quote) he is speaking Tom Bombadils line from the book. This is obviously PJ paying homage to Tom Bombadil, who was left out of the movie. -Chapter titles from the book pop up in actors dialogue, for instance 'A Shortcut to Mushrooms'. After they have fallen down the cliffy thing Merry says it was a shortcut. Sam says 'a shortcut to what?' and Pippin replies 'mushrooms!'Many more appear, but I'll wait and see what others come up with...Merry Christmas y'all!

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 12-24-2003, 02:47 PM

I saw numerous things which resembled Tolkien's story. Apart from Denethor... I thought the whole point of the films was to convey Tolkien's story. It shouldn't be too hard to spot things which were in the book.

Daisy Brambleburr · 12-25-2003, 02:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I saw numerous things which resembled Tolkien's story. Apart from Denethor... I thought the whole point of the films was to convey Tolkien's story. It shouldn't be too hard to spot things which were in the book. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think balrogman ment less obvious things that people who had only read the books would notice, if you see what I mean. Little tidbits that wouldn't be included in the film as a main story line, for instance, Gil-Galad is at the Last Alliance. We are never introduced to him, but the readers of the book would probably notice him and know who he was. Little things like this show more depth, like the depth of detail in the books. Crumbs, I'm terrible at explaining stuff. I really should leave it, but I'm bored Hope that was okay, any one else notice stuff like that?

Orominuialwen · 12-25-2003, 02:45 PM

At one point in TTT, Gollum starts reciting some of the Barrow-wight's lines, with a few changes. (I can't remember exactly when it happens in the movie. )

Rose Cotton · 12-25-2003, 08:26 PM

Ya, they're always useing bits of poetry from of books for songs. For example, the song Gollum sings at the Forbiddin Pool and the song Pippin sings for Denethor.I was a bit sad to see that Sam went home to #3 Bagshot Row instead of Bag End, but I guess that would be a bit hard to explain. But it is still a nice referance to Sam's home.And I love how in the first movie they're always dropping references to "The Hobbit".I can't think of any others right now.

balrogman · 12-27-2003, 04:08 PM

yeah what i meant was little things that were put in that mostly the book readers would notice

doug*platypus · 12-27-2003, 04:39 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Heed no nightly noise.Treebeard <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>More compensation for Bombadil.

12-27-2003, 05:02 PM

When they met Gandalf again in TTT he had a Lothlorien cloak on with the same leaf broach on because he went through Lothlorien even though they didn't say he did.

Finwe · 12-27-2003, 05:18 PM

In Return of the King, right before Aragorn leaves for the Paths of the Dead, he tells Eowyn: "It is but a shadow and a thought that you love." That is the line that he says to Eomer, during the Houses of Healing scenes in the Book.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 12-27-2003, 09:35 PM

In the Extended Edition TTT (my brother got it for Christmas!) there are quite a few nods.In one part Gollum is famished and Frodo offers him some lembas. He tries to eats it but "it chokes us". Just like the books.Treebeard sings about Fimbrethel (like in the books) and also sings Quickbeam's Rowan song.I quite liked "heed no nightly noises." Fea

burrahobbit · 12-28-2003, 02:15 AM

I really liked when they launched the heads of the soldiers into Minas Tirith, but I think that the biggest homage to the books I saw was when they made three movies based on them.

Olorin_TLA · 12-28-2003, 10:52 AM

Where's the Pippin song from? I like it!

Tar-Alcarin · 12-28-2003, 11:35 AM

In the prolouge to the Fellowship you can see Cirdan and Gil-galad in the background when they are holding the rings up to the light. And at the end, at the Grey Havens, you can see Cirdan once again, in the background.

Tinker · 12-28-2003, 01:42 PM

The "Pippin Song" as you called it Olorin, comes from the Hobbits Walking Song in the Fellowship books. (No time for reading anymore, so I've worn out my WalkMen listening to the unabridged BoT version, but I still can't remember what chapter its on.) If I remember right (and I probably don't) the lines are from the first and last verses.

Olorin_TLA · 12-28-2003, 06:13 PM

Thanks. I ought to look out for Cirdan, the man.

Daisy Brambleburr · 12-29-2003, 02:00 PM

They payed homage to Sean Bean in RotK when we saw him get shot through with arrows for a second time

Meneltarmacil · 12-29-2003, 03:18 PM

I thought Bilbo telling the children about his encounter with the three trolls was clever, as was the inclusion of Thror's map in Bag End.

BoromirsBeard · 12-29-2003, 07:33 PM

How about that glance between Eowyn and Faramir. Who here didn't have to explain to everyone sitting around them? Legolas has a crown at the end, even though he's never introduced as Son of the King but instead as "Legolas of the Woodland Realm".Gandalf's ring.

HCIsland · 12-29-2003, 07:49 PM

Though I believe Gimli refers to him as a "princeling" in the extended Towers.I never noticed he was wearing a crown.H.C.

Trippo The Hippo · 12-29-2003, 08:32 PM

Many titles of the chapters in the movies are taken from the book. Bilbo's trolls show up on the road to rivendell.

dragoneyes · 12-30-2003, 10:49 AM

At the Grey Havens Elrond says what ever it is he says in Elvish and Bilbo takes a little time to translate it and understnad it. I thought that was nicely done but I'm not sure if anyone would get it if they hadn't read the books. (Do they even know Bilbo can speak Elvish?)

Lord of Angmar · 12-30-2003, 11:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>anyone seen any little homages or references to the books? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Heh. Yes, I noticed a few nods to the text of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings.

The Only Real Estel · 12-30-2003, 11:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>At the Grey Havens Elrond says what ever it is he says in Elvish and Bilbo takes a little time to translate it and understnad it. I thought that was nicely done but I'm not sure if anyone would get it if they hadn't read the books. (Do they even know Bilbo can speak Elvish?)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I doubt a non-book reader would get it, no. To a non-book reader, it would just look like Bilbo doesn't understand what Elrond is saying (Bilbo's look could go either way).

Olorin · 12-30-2003, 08:22 PM

Several of these I never noticed, but I'm really glad you all pointed them out. It makes me feel like PJ didn't have a complete disregard for the books. haha

mark12_30 · 12-30-2003, 09:03 PM

Sounds like y'all might enjoy this. First the intro as seen on TORn:"The TORn RoTK Geeky Observation List " has numerous "tributes" listed as well as just some cool facts. (Listed as a Cool Movie Fact: I had noticed the movie-theme of blues and silver for those about to sail. Even the horses ridden by westering elves are grey! So Frodo's silver waistcoat and blue jacket are a major clue... westward ho-bbit.)Anyway, the list is very fun.<A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1072691717.html" TARGET=_blank>The TORn RotK Geeky Observation List</A>

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-30-2003, 11:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Sméagol and Déagol's ears were larger and shaped slightly differently to normal hobbit ears, to reflect the fact that "River folk" are a slightly different race of hobbits than Shire folk? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I noticed that too, but I though that it was just me. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> You can see the Púkel-men when the Rohirrim camp at Dunharrow. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ah, I was going to mention the Púkel-Men.

Shire Flower · 12-31-2003, 03:04 AM

How about the scene in FOTR where Bilbo says about Frodo, "He's not some blockheaded Bracegirdle from Hardbottle!" After I read the books, I watched FOTR again and I burst out into laughter. "Oh man! He's talking about Lobelia!!"

12-31-2003, 08:54 AM

I´m suprised nobody ever mentioned the trolls in FotR! When Arwen turns up, they´re camping in this little clearing thingy and in the backroudn you can see "Bilbo´s" trolsl of stone. It took me awhile to realize that. And Gandalf sings "The road goes ever on and on" in FotR, when he comes to the Shire.

12-31-2003, 08:55 AM

Wow, ShireFlower, I never noticed that! Wow!!

Arothir · 12-31-2003, 09:21 AM

I noticed Gandalf singing the Road goes ever on, but it's not the same tune I sing it to... Oh well. Gimli makes reference to Balin.

mark12_30 · 12-31-2003, 10:49 AM

TORn list is updated: <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1072691717.html" TARGET=_blank>here.</A>

Durelin · 12-31-2003, 01:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I was a bit sad to see that Sam went home to #3 Bagshot Row instead of Bag End, but I guess that would be a bit hard to explain. But it is still a nice referance to Sam's home. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is too bad. Really, it would not need to be explained, just as Gollum's crying on about the elven rope 'burning and freezing,' and the elven bread 'choking' him didn't need to be explained. Those who are 'casual movie-goers' (those who are illiterate) would not even notice it. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I really liked when they launched the heads of the soldiers into Minas Tirith, but I think that the biggest homage to the books I saw was when they made three movies based on them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's a first! I agree with an entire post! An excellent observation, burra!

Lost One · 12-31-2003, 06:21 PM

The elvish exchange between Elrond and Aragorn when Anduril is delivered are Gilraen's (Aragorn's mother) last words.

Orominuialwen · 01-02-2004, 03:29 PM

When Elrond is talking to Arwen about Aragorn's death in TTT, it's a quote from The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen. "...an image of the splendour of the Kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world." Also, Elrond talks of her "under the fading trees," which also comes from the Appendices.

12-23-2003, 10:12 PM	#1
balrogman Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: that place with the stuff Posts: 102	book homages anyone seen any little homages or references to the books? i noticed one in the red book, just as Frodo is finishing up you can clearly read at the top of a paragraph that Sam becomes mayor of the Shire...anyone else see anything like this __________________ should i stay or should i go?

12-24-2003, 01:30 PM	#2
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	Here are a few of the main points I've spotted when Peter Jackson is paying homage to Tolkiens book.<BR>-When Treebeard tells the tree in Fangorn (TTT Extended DVD) to 'dig deep, eat earth' (very sorry, can't recall exact quote) he is speaking Tom Bombadils line from the book. This is obviously PJ paying homage to Tom Bombadil, who was left out of the movie.<BR>-Chapter titles from the book pop up in actors dialogue, for instance 'A Shortcut to Mushrooms'. After they have fallen down the cliffy thing Merry says it was a shortcut. Sam says 'a shortcut to what?' and Pippin replies 'mushrooms!'<P>Many more appear, but I'll wait and see what others come up with...<P>Merry Christmas y'all! __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

12-25-2003, 02:25 PM	#4
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I saw numerous things which resembled Tolkien's story. Apart from Denethor... <BR>I thought the whole point of the films was to convey Tolkien's story. It shouldn't be too hard to spot things which were in the book. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think balrogman ment less obvious things that people who had only read the books would notice, if you see what I mean. Little tidbits that wouldn't be included in the film as a main story line, for instance, Gil-Galad is at the Last Alliance. We are never introduced to him, but the readers of the book would probably notice him and know who he was. Little things like this show more depth, like the depth of detail in the books. <BR>Crumbs, I'm terrible at explaining stuff. I really should leave it, but I'm bored <BR>Hope that was okay, any one else notice stuff like that? __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

12-25-2003, 02:45 PM	#5
Orominuialwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Umbar, but before the corsairs took over. (Ave Maria University, FL, USA) Posts: 705	At one point in TTT, Gollum starts reciting some of the Barrow-wight's lines, with a few changes. (I can't remember exactly when it happens in the movie. ) __________________ Gone for lentSeeyou at Easter! (And on Sundays too, maybe.)

12-25-2003, 08:26 PM	#6
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	Ya, they're always useing bits of poetry from of books for songs. For example, the song Gollum sings at the Forbiddin Pool and the song Pippin sings for Denethor.<P>I was a bit sad to see that Sam went home to #3 Bagshot Row instead of Bag End, but I guess that would be a bit hard to explain. But it is still a nice referance to Sam's home.<P>And I love how in the first movie they're always dropping references to "The Hobbit".<P>I can't think of any others right now. __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

12-24-2003, 02:47 PM	#3
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,992	I saw numerous things which resembled Tolkien's story. Apart from Denethor... <P>I thought the whole point of the films was to convey Tolkien's story. It shouldn't be too hard to spot things which were in the book. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

12-27-2003, 04:08 PM	#7
balrogman Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: that place with the stuff Posts: 102	yeah what i meant was little things that were put in that mostly the book readers would notice __________________ should i stay or should i go?

12-27-2003, 04:39 PM	#8
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 963	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Heed no nightly noise.<P><I>Treebeard</I> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>More compensation for Bombadil. __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

12-27-2003, 05:02 PM	#9
Shadowfax the Silver Guest Posts: n/a	When they met Gandalf again in TTT he had a Lothlorien cloak on with the same leaf broach on because he went through Lothlorien even though they didn't say he did.

12-27-2003, 05:18 PM	#10
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	In Return of the King, right before Aragorn leaves for the Paths of the Dead, he tells Eowyn: "It is but a shadow and a thought that you love." That is the line that he says to Eomer, during the Houses of Healing scenes in the Book. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-27-2003, 09:35 PM	#11
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,956	In the Extended Edition TTT (my brother got it for Christmas!) there are quite a few nods.<P>In one part Gollum is famished and Frodo offers him some lembas. He tries to eats it but "it chokes us". Just like the books.<P>Treebeard sings about Fimbrethel (like in the books) and also sings Quickbeam's Rowan song.<P>I quite liked "heed no nightly noises." <P>Fea __________________ peace

12-28-2003, 02:15 AM	#12
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,436	I really liked when they launched the heads of the soldiers into Minas Tirith, but I think that the biggest homage to the books I saw was when they <B>made three movies based on them</B>. __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

12-28-2003, 10:52 AM	#13
Olorin_TLA Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gardens of Lórien, Valinor. Posts: 420	Where's the Pippin song from? I like it! __________________ "For I am Olórin! And Olórin means me!" ELENDIL! - Join "Forth Tolkiengas!"

12-28-2003, 11:35 AM	#14
Tar-Alcarin Wight Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Numenore Posts: 108	In the prolouge to the Fellowship you can see Cirdan and Gil-galad in the background when they are holding the rings up to the light. And at the end, at the Grey Havens, you can see Cirdan once again, in the background. __________________ Miniature Rohirrim armor: $500. Amount of fuel it took pippin to light the beacons: $20. Seeing your two favourite hobbits get wasted and drunk: priceless

12-28-2003, 01:42 PM	#15
Tinker Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Along the border between Earth and Middle Earth Posts: 18	The "Pippin Song" as you called it Olorin, comes from the Hobbits Walking Song in the Fellowship books. (No time for reading anymore, so I've worn out my WalkMen listening to the unabridged BoT version, but I still can't remember what chapter its on.) If I remember right (and I probably don't) the lines are from the first and last verses. __________________ Have you hugged your hobbit today? "He's hot. Not Faramir Hot, but hot" Tolkienitis, GS Symptom #6: A suddenly developed obsession/aversion with jewlery, esp. rings of gold.

12-28-2003, 06:13 PM	#16
Olorin_TLA Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gardens of Lórien, Valinor. Posts: 420	Thanks. <P>I ought to look out for Cirdan, the man. __________________ "For I am Olórin! And Olórin means me!" ELENDIL! - Join "Forth Tolkiengas!"

12-29-2003, 02:00 PM	#17
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	They payed homage to Sean Bean in RotK when we saw him get shot through with arrows for a second time __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

12-29-2003, 03:18 PM	#18
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,287	I thought Bilbo telling the children about his encounter with the three trolls was clever, as was the inclusion of Thror's map in Bag End. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

12-29-2003, 07:33 PM	#19
BoromirsBeard Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 20	How about that glance between Eowyn and Faramir. Who here didn't have to explain to everyone sitting around them? <P>Legolas has a crown at the end, even though he's never introduced as Son of the King but instead as "Legolas of the Woodland Realm".<P>Gandalf's ring.

12-29-2003, 07:49 PM	#20
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Though I believe Gimli refers to him as a "princeling" in the extended Towers.<P>I never noticed he was wearing a crown.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

12-29-2003, 08:32 PM	#21
Trippo The Hippo Wight Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: somewhere with hippos that say jolly o and wear spectacles Posts: 199	Many titles of the chapters in the movies are taken from the book. Bilbo's trolls show up on the road to rivendell. __________________ Shouldn't he be the disco steward?

12-30-2003, 10:49 AM	#22
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 743	At the Grey Havens Elrond says what ever it is he says in Elvish and Bilbo takes a little time to translate it and understnad it. I thought that was nicely done but I'm not sure if anyone would get it if they hadn't read the books. (Do they even know Bilbo can speak Elvish?) __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

12-30-2003, 11:06 AM	#23
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>anyone seen any little homages or references to the books? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Heh. Yes, I noticed a few nods to the text of J.R.R. Tolkien's <I>The Lord of the Rings</I>. <P> __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

12-30-2003, 11:08 AM	#24
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 3,025	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>At the Grey Havens Elrond says what ever it is he says in Elvish and Bilbo takes a little time to translate it and understnad it. I thought that was nicely done but I'm not sure if anyone would get it if they hadn't read the books. (Do they even know Bilbo can speak Elvish?)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I doubt a non-book reader would get it, no. To a non-book reader, it would just look like Bilbo doesn't understand what Elrond is saying (Bilbo's look could go either way).

12-30-2003, 08:22 PM	#25
Olorin Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Where the sun sails and the moon walks. Posts: 155	Several of these I never noticed, but I'm really glad you all pointed them out. It makes me feel like PJ didn't have a complete disregard for the books. haha __________________ Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then don't be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

12-30-2003, 09:03 PM	#26
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,407	Sounds like y'all might enjoy this. First the intro as seen on TORn:<P>"The TORn RoTK Geeky Observation List " has numerous "tributes" listed as well as just some cool facts. (Listed as a Cool Movie Fact: I had noticed the movie-theme of blues and silver for those about to sail. Even the horses ridden by westering elves are grey! So Frodo's silver waistcoat and blue jacket are a major clue... westward ho-bbit.)<P>Anyway, the list is very fun.<P><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1072691717.html" TARGET=_blank>The TORn RotK Geeky Observation List</A> __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

12-30-2003, 11:47 PM	#27
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Sméagol and Déagol's ears were larger and shaped slightly differently to normal hobbit ears, to reflect the fact that "River folk" are a slightly different race of hobbits than Shire folk? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I noticed that too, but I though that it was just me. <P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> You can see the Púkel-men when the Rohirrim camp at Dunharrow.<BR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ah, I was going to mention the Púkel-Men. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-31-2003, 03:04 AM	#28
Shire Flower Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 25	How about the scene in FOTR where Bilbo says about Frodo, "He's not some blockheaded Bracegirdle from Hardbottle!" After I read the books, I watched FOTR again and I burst out into laughter. "Oh man! He's talking about Lobelia!!"

12-31-2003, 08:54 AM	#29
Emma Woodhouse Guest Posts: n/a	I´m suprised nobody ever mentioned the trolls in FotR! When Arwen turns up, they´re camping in this little clearing thingy and in the backroudn you can see "Bilbo´s" trolsl of stone. It took me awhile to realize that. And Gandalf sings "The road goes ever on and on" in FotR, when he comes to the Shire.

12-31-2003, 08:55 AM	#30
Emma Woodhouse Guest Posts: n/a	Wow, ShireFlower, I never noticed that! Wow!!

12-31-2003, 09:21 AM	#31
Arothir Wight Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: the Realm of Nargothrond beyond Narog Posts: 163	I noticed Gandalf singing the Road goes ever on, but it's not the same tune I sing it to... Oh well. Gimli makes reference to Balin. __________________ Then Felagund upon the head of Arothir set it: "Nephew mine, till I return this crown is thine."

12-31-2003, 10:49 AM	#32
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,407	TORn list is updated:<BR><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1072691717.html" TARGET=_blank>here.</A> __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

12-31-2003, 01:56 PM	#33
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,121	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I was a bit sad to see that Sam went home to #3 Bagshot Row instead of Bag End, but I guess that would be a bit hard to explain. But it is still a nice referance to Sam's home. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That is too bad. Really, it would not need to be explained, just as Gollum's crying on about the elven rope 'burning and freezing,' and the elven bread 'choking' him didn't need to be explained. Those who are 'casual movie-goers' (those who are illiterate) would not even notice it.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I really liked when they launched the heads of the soldiers into Minas Tirith, but I think that the biggest homage to the books I saw was when they made three movies based on them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That's a first! I agree with an entire post! An excellent observation, burra!

12-31-2003, 06:21 PM	#34
Lost One Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 67	The elvish exchange between Elrond and Aragorn when Anduril is delivered are Gilraen's (Aragorn's mother) last words.

01-02-2004, 03:29 PM	#35
Orominuialwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Umbar, but before the corsairs took over. (Ave Maria University, FL, USA) Posts: 705	When Elrond is talking to Arwen about Aragorn's death in TTT, it's a quote from <I>The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen</I>. "...an image of the splendour of the Kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world." Also, Elrond talks of her "under the fading trees," which also comes from the Appendices. __________________ Gone for lentSeeyou at Easter! (And on Sundays too, maybe.)