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Old 01-26-2004, 02:04 PM   #1
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Pipe Verbal Reasoning!

This is something that is on most British schools' entrance exams, and I thought it would be interesting to give it a nice Tolkien Twist.
The idea is very simple - you relate two words to one another, and then give the beginning of a second pair, so that the intended audience may complete it.

A really easy one would be:
Dog is to Puppy as
Cat is to ____________________

Now we all know the answer would be "Kitten" (don't we?), but the Tolkien version could perhaps be more difficult, as most characters and things and places have more than one relationship...if you know what I mean. (The above would be more difficult if Dog was also an anagram of puppy, the place where the puppy was born, etc.)

If I didn't just waffle on and write complete nonsense, and you actually understood what I mean, then have a go at this niiice and easy one:
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Arwen is to Elrond as
owyn is to ___________
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You must explain why you filled in the blank in the way you did. We can't go arund guessing now, can we?
Also, if there are any more VR-style questions, you can post those up as well, provided you explain how they work.

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Old 01-26-2004, 02:10 PM   #2
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Theoden...

Because he is her (adopted) father...

Elrond is Arwen's real father...

Is the link close enough?
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:37 PM   #3
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Eomund because he is Eowyn's father. Elrond is Arwen's father.
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:38 PM   #4
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I will guess Eomund: Arwen is Elrond's daughter, Eowyn is the daughter of Eomund.

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Old 01-27-2004, 01:36 PM   #5
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Pipe

I was in fact thinking of Eomund.

So Firefoot gets it.

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Old 01-27-2004, 03:15 PM   #6
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Thanks, LePetitChoux!

Okay, here's mine:
Gandalf is to Shadowfax as
Aragorn is to ____________
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Old 01-27-2004, 04:54 PM   #7
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My answer is Hasufel.

Shadowfax was a horse given to Gandalf, and Hasufel was a horse given to Aragorn.
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Old 01-27-2004, 04:58 PM   #8
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Not quite...

Happy 100th post to me!!

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Old 01-27-2004, 06:07 PM   #9
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well shadowfax has been gandalfs greatest friend, so i would say either Legolas or Gimli
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Old 01-27-2004, 06:23 PM   #10
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:43 PM   #11
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Roheryn, because Gandalf rides Shadowfax, and Aragorn rides Roheryn.
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Old 01-27-2004, 08:19 PM   #12
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Yes! Finwe has it.
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Old 01-28-2004, 03:52 AM   #13
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Oooh, interesting thread...sounds like fun! C'mon, post!
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Old 01-28-2004, 07:33 PM   #14
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Alright...

Fram is to Scatha

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Theoden is to...
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The Haradrim leader? Because Fram slew Scatha, and Thoden slew the Haradrim cavalry commander? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 01-28-2004, 08:12 PM   #16
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The Fell Beast? My reason is the same as Nilpaurion's.
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Old 01-28-2004, 10:55 PM   #17
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My guess is snowmane, Theoden's horse.

Snowmane was Theoden's bane after all.
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Nilpaurion has it. It is the leader of the Haradrim cavalry.
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Frodo is to Finrod

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_____ is to Thoden.

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Eowyn?

Frodo brought about the destruction of Sauron, who killed Finrod.

Eowyn brought about the destruction of Theoden's killer, the Witch King.
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Nilpaurion? *Pokes*
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Old 02-18-2004, 12:06 PM   #22
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*Pokes Nilpaurion again*

Nilpaurion - you there?
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NightKnight: Nilpaurion? *Pokes*

Nilpaurion: Zzzzz...

The Saucepan Man: *Pokes Nilpaurion again* Nilpaurion - you there?

Nilpauiron: Huh? Oh, sorry. The Saucepan Man is correct.
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Nilpaurion, please clear your PM box.
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Old 02-19-2004, 08:41 PM   #25
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Dark-Eye Sorry.

You and your bloody silliness! You'll get us both killed!

Hey, I said I'm sorry.
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Old 02-21-2004, 05:55 AM   #26
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OK, a different kind of verbal reasoning question.

Give the next two names in this sequence:

Thorin, Aragorn, Ori, Boromir, Oin, Frodo, Nori, Gandalf, Kili,
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Cool one!
Here's my attempt:
Thorin, Aragorn, Ori, Boromir, Oin, Frodo, Nori, Gandalf, Kili, Gimli (alphabetically, next from the Fellowship - Thorin & co are in reverse alphabetical-)
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Give the next two names in this sequence:
So you will also need a Gloin.
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So you will also need a Gloin.
You're right. Serves me right for not paying attention.
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Old 02-21-2004, 06:44 PM   #30
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WOW. Definitely confusing, that one.
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Hmm ... Evisse or NightKnight?

Well, since Evisse solved the key to the puzzle, but NightKnight provided the full answer, I suppose either of you can go next. Depends who gets back here first ...
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And that would be me.

An easy one:
Hador is to Turin as
Turgon the Steward is to ______
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Old 02-22-2004, 11:48 AM   #33
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Really confused myself by examining the wrong Trin and Hador ... but I think this should be Trin II, Turgon's father?
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I think it could be either Boromir or Faramir.
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NightKnight, there were two Hadors and three Turins, so could you elaborate a bit? It could be either Boromir or Faramir, or Turin II. Both answers have been given before. Actually, it could also be Barahir's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchild, but somehow I don't think that's the answer you're looking for.
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I would say Boromir or Faramir because Hador is Turin's great-grandfather and Turgon the Steward is Boromir's/Faramir's great grandfather.
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River Sirion is to Doriath
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Old 02-25-2004, 06:43 AM   #40
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Probably Mirkwood. Sirion runs through Doriath and The Forest River runs through Mirkwood.
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