The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Movies
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-26-2006, 10:27 AM   #1
ninja91
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
ninja91's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chozo Ruins.
Posts: 439
ninja91 has just left Hobbiton.
Tolkien The Hobbit (The Movie)

I am sure that you all have been speculating about the topic of a possible movie of The Hobbit. But are the rumors true? And would Peter Jackson be the one directing it? This topic was probably brought up a million times, but, whatever.
__________________
Quote:
The rider was robed all in black, and black was his lofty helm; yet this was no Ringwraith but a living man. The Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dûr he was, and his name is remembered in no tale; for he himself had forgotten it...
ninja91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2006, 11:34 AM   #2
ArathorofBarahir
Wight
 
ArathorofBarahir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Crickhallow
Posts: 247
ArathorofBarahir has just left Hobbiton.
I would like to see the hobbit made into a movie, and I hope that Peter Jackson would be the one to do it, along with Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens (his writers from LOTR).
__________________
King of the Dead: The dead do not suffer the living to pass.
Aragorn: You will suffer me.
ArathorofBarahir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2006, 11:55 AM   #3
ninja91
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
ninja91's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chozo Ruins.
Posts: 439
ninja91 has just left Hobbiton.
I wonder if they would have the same guy who played Bilbo in the LOTR movies play him in the Hobbit. They would just make him look younger.
__________________
Quote:
The rider was robed all in black, and black was his lofty helm; yet this was no Ringwraith but a living man. The Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dûr he was, and his name is remembered in no tale; for he himself had forgotten it...
ninja91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2006, 03:12 PM   #4
Orome
Wight
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 195
Orome has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via AIM to Orome
Last I heard, which was about 2 years ago, Jackson really wanted to do it, but had other projects lined up, namely King Kong. In addition to this, there were some legal issues, because 2 different companies had rights to it. IIRC, New Line had production rights, and another company (MGM/UA) had distribution rights. I am not sure how accurate this is though.

here is a website about it that is probably quite old. http://www.thehobbitfilm.com/
Orome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2006, 09:39 PM   #5
DarkLordSauron
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
the hobbit

it would be great if they made the hobbit they could even have ian mckellen as gandalf because gandalf was still old then
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2006, 10:59 PM   #6
vanaboyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
i think that as hard as it would be to see a new actor play a character, i dont think i would like ian holm as the young bilbo.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2006, 03:06 AM   #7
SarumanCymraeg
Pile O'Bones
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wales
Posts: 19
SarumanCymraeg has just left Hobbiton.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanaboyer
i think that as hard as it would be to see a new actor play a character, i dont think i would like ian holm as the young bilbo.
Although Bilbo wasn't exactly young in 'The Hobbit', either, if I remember correctly he was at least 50.
__________________
http://rachub.blogspot.com
SarumanCymraeg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2006, 10:53 AM   #8
Brinniel
Reflection of Darkness
 
Brinniel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull.
Posts: 3,027
Brinniel is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.Brinniel is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.Brinniel is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.
Still, Ian Holm is nearly seventy-five. If a Hobbit movie were made, most likely Holm wouldn't be in it because he is too old in terms of physical work and stunts.
__________________
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
Brinniel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2006, 02:17 AM   #9
narfforc
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
narfforc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Muddy-earth
Posts: 1,307
narfforc has been trapped in the Barrow!
I am afraid I agree with Brinniel, Ian Holm is old now and the days are passing without any sign of the film being made, there may be the day when the question of him being in the film passes, and another actor would have to play Bilbo anyway. The remaking of films like the latest Superman, shows that other actors can do the job, yet who will ever forget Christopher Reeve. I think that if Ian Holm is too old to play Bilbo, then they could find a cameo role for him maybe as his Grandsire The Old Took.
__________________
[B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.
narfforc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2006, 03:12 PM   #10
Hilde Bracegirdle
Relic of Wandering Days
 
Hilde Bracegirdle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: You'll See Perpetual Change.
Posts: 1,488
Hilde Bracegirdle has just left Hobbiton.
I have no way of knowing if this is real or wishful thinking since I've been unable to verify it, but still it looks interesting.

The Hobbit 2006 Trailer?

But I have run across news that Ian Holm is battle cancer at the moment.

EDIT: Sorry to have been incorrect about something so serious. Ian Holm had been undergoing cancer treatment a few years back. I don't know if he still is, though.

Last edited by Hilde Bracegirdle; 07-15-2006 at 03:25 PM.
Hilde Bracegirdle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2006, 04:12 AM   #11
The Saucepan Man
Corpus Cacophonous
 
The Saucepan Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A green and pleasant land
Posts: 8,468
The Saucepan Man has been trapped in the Barrow!
Silmaril

Hilde, I saw that trailer, or something very similar, a year or so back. It has been put together with brief clips from the LotR, with some clips from other films (Reign of Fire, perhaps) added in.

As far as I know, The Hobbit film is no nearer production than at any time in recent years. Jackson's current project, I believe, is a film adaptation of Alice Sebold novel Lovely Bones.

Sadly, if The Hobbit film does ever get made, I very much doubt that Ian Holm will play the lead role. Bilbo was, in human terms, about 30 when he set off on his Quest. While Holm was made up to look younger for those scenes in FotR, it would not work for an entire film.
__________________
Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!
The Saucepan Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2006, 05:23 AM   #12
Hilde Bracegirdle
Relic of Wandering Days
 
Hilde Bracegirdle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: You'll See Perpetual Change.
Posts: 1,488
Hilde Bracegirdle has just left Hobbiton.
Yes, it did seem suspicious with all the clips from LotR, but I didn't recognized the additional material. Thanks SpM. (Nice pup, by the way. And happy too. It looks as though he he is sporting an enormous smile!)

I had also come across an old press release mentioning Paul Andersson as director. Does anyone know if this idea fizzled out as well? I think that it probably has, since there is seems to be nothing new out there in the ether.

Ye olde press release
Hilde Bracegirdle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2006, 08:49 AM   #13
Child of the 7th Age
Spirit of the Lonely Star
 
Child of the 7th Age's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 5,135
Child of the 7th Age is a guest of Tom Bombadil.
Gotcha!

Take a look at the date on that press release. It says April 1, 2004. I remember there was a brouhaha about this article because it said Andersson was directing rather than PJ. As far as I know, PJ is working on Lovely Bones and there's been no further mention of the Hobbit (other than the last problem with working out distribution rights). I can even remember seeing that PJ has give a promise to work on another movie after Lovely Bones. If so, even at best, the Hobbit is a long way off.

I am sadly beginning to think that it will not happen anytime reasonably soon.

______________

EDIT: Hmm.... Maybe I am too pessimistic. Just did a google search. Look at this list: here. I wonder what those rumors at WETA are. But then again, rumors are still a long way from reality.

I think the last time I heard PJ talk about the Hobbit was over a year ago when he indicated that he was still interested, but that it would not be made for 3-4 more years. As far as I know, the distribution rights still have to be resolved.
__________________
Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

Last edited by Child of the 7th Age; 07-16-2006 at 09:23 AM.
Child of the 7th Age is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2006, 09:52 AM   #14
Hilde Bracegirdle
Relic of Wandering Days
 
Hilde Bracegirdle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: You'll See Perpetual Change.
Posts: 1,488
Hilde Bracegirdle has just left Hobbiton.
Leave the research to a proper researcher! Many thanks Child, I should have looked closer at the date and not just the year! And thanks also for the new rumor, I suspect we aren't the only ones who would like to see The Hobbit played out for us.

I thought that at one point I heard it was to be more along the lines of LotR, with not quite the same tone as the book. Was I dreaming this?
Hilde Bracegirdle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2006, 01:30 PM   #15
Farael
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
Farael's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment.
Posts: 1,549
Farael has just left Hobbiton.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilde Bracegirdle
I thought that at one point I heard it was to be more along the lines of LotR, with not quite the same tone as the book. Was I dreaming this?
I can't say I've heard of it, but it would make sense. First of all, after LOTR I don't think that you could go back and picture the elves in Rivendell like they are in The Hobbit... I mean, those of us who have read the books will probably enjoy it better that way, but for the gazillions who have only seen the movies and not read the books it would be a bit of a bummer I believe. And it's not only with the elves, I would guess (and specially if PJ is directing it) that the audience would be expecting a story somewhat like LoTR and TH has a very different style... for better or for worse, it's different yet different does not always sell. They have found a winning formula in LoTR so I'd assume that if TH is ever done it would be somewhat like the previous movies.

But then, that's only a bit of guesswork and I might very well be way off.
__________________
I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.
Farael is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2007, 09:39 AM   #16
goodedesign
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
White Tree to The Saucepan Man

Bilbo was about 50 when he set off on his journey: per page 11

"The chance never arrived (for the Tookish side to show) until he was about fifty."

If Ian Holm is of good health & up to it, it would be GREAT to see him in the film.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2007, 11:20 AM   #17
Meriadoc1961
Wight
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 101
Meriadoc1961 has just left Hobbiton.
I thought that PJ was having money lawsuits against New Line that were holding up production as well. Did they resolve their issues amicably, PJ and New Line?
__________________
"If I yawn again, I shall split at the ears!"
Meriadoc1961 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2007, 11:28 AM   #18
Sauron the White
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 903
Sauron the White has just left Hobbiton.
Not as of today they have not.
But we can hope.
Sauron the White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2007, 12:31 PM   #19
TheGreatElvenWarrior
Mighty Quill
 
TheGreatElvenWarrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Walking off to look for America
Posts: 2,346
TheGreatElvenWarrior has been trapped in the Barrow!
It said in the beginning of FotR in the chapter "A Long Expected Party" that Bilbo was unchanged because he had posessed The Ring for so long. Therefore Ian Holm might be able to play Bilbo if he was up to it since Bilbo shouldn't have changed since he was fifty...
Have you ever noticed that the first chapter of The Hobbit was called "An Unexpected Party", and the first chapter of The Lord of The Rings was "A Long Expected Party"? And they were both hosted by our dear Bilbo Baggins.
__________________
The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.
TheGreatElvenWarrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2007, 04:38 PM   #20
Sauron the White
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 903
Sauron the White has just left Hobbiton.
I felt Ian Holm was truly superb as Biblo in all but one scene in the LOTR films. The one scene that he simply did not look right in was the scene in the cave finding the ring. He simply looked too old for it. Figuring that is the Bilbo of THE HOBBIT - Holm would be wrong for a younger looking, more vigorous Bilbo. And at his real world age I cannot imagine Holm treking across vast expanses and doing the exhausting work necessary for that role.
Sauron the White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2007, 04:45 PM   #21
Sir Kohran
Wight
 
Sir Kohran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England, UK
Posts: 178
Sir Kohran has just left Hobbiton.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron the White View Post
I felt Ian Holm was truly superb as Biblo in all but one scene in the LOTR films. The one scene that he simply did not look right in was the scene in the cave finding the ring. He simply looked too old for it. Figuring that is the Bilbo of THE HOBBIT - Holm would be wrong for a younger looking, more vigorous Bilbo. And at his real world age I cannot imagine Holm treking across vast expanses and doing the exhausting work necessary for that role.
I quite agree. Perhaps, if a Hobbit movie is made, at some point they could return to FOTR and edit it in the 'correct' image.
__________________
'Dangerous!' cried Gandalf. 'And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord.'
Sir Kohran is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:23 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.