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Old 07-15-2000, 09:51 AM   #1
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Who could possibly have said this quote (or maybe only thought it):

&quot;Yes indeed! This will truly be humiliating! My words in their letters, telling of their own enslavement!&quot;

Not too hard I think.


Blah blah blah. c.f. one of my other posts.



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Old 07-16-2000, 04:56 PM   #2
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Sauron to himself when he inscribed the Ring with Elven script!

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Old 07-21-2000, 07:56 AM   #3
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For sure. Go on!

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Who might have said .....

&quot;Ha. Such a small showing. Let's ride out and and I'll show them a thing or two.&quot;

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Sounds like the Mouth of Sauron at the Morannon with a kit-bag full of confiscated spy-gear.

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You got it.... And I thought the 'show them a thing or two' was gonna be tricky. Darn!

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Well see I was already onto your tricky mood from the woses question. So to fool me you needed to go obvious. Obvious often escapes me.
So who might have said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> There is no way those things can move quickly enough to get us. So let's get in close and take our best shots. C'mon bro...<hr></blockquote>

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Duilin to Derufin (or vice versa) on the Pelennor field. They tried to kill the Mūmakil by shooting them in their eyes and the outcome was rather flat.

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Flat yes, but was it smooth, or chunky?
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Who could have said:

&quot;Over shadow-lands my flight does go,
the desert lands of grey and brown.
Rumour I heard of a blood-stained gown,
the dead within fills all with woe.&quot;

I“m not good at writing poetry, but I think my point is clear.


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It sounds like it could be one of the &quot;many songs&quot; made about the duel between Glorfindel and the Balrog in Cirith Thoronath, one written as though Thorondor was the speaker. If this guess were right, the speaker could be any of the refugees with Tuor.
Or it could be Thorondor's own &quot;tidings&quot; about the death of Fingolfin about which elves made no song. Or even his tidings to Turgon about the death of Thingol.
Fingolfin's death seems to me to fit the lines best.

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Nay. Didn“t you say somewhere else that the obvious often is more difficult? I think this is one case.
I should add that it is of course a song, but that the pattern of rhyme etc. may be misleading (somehow...).
And it“s a LOTR quote.

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Well it could be either a Nazgul or an eagle commenting on the death of the Witch King. (Because if it were the death of Sauron, I'm not sure who'd exactly rue it.) But the only way this makes sense to my sensibility would be if an eagle sang it, sort of gloatingly. But maybe Nazgul are kind of &quot;verse-ey&quot; in your mental-picture. They're very terse in mine.

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Still not right.
Maybe I should add that it is not an &quot;off-screen&quot; quote, but rather one which a speaker could have said in a situation we know, but did not say.

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I've already hazarded five guesses. Surely that disqualifies me already.

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Frodo about the dead marshes?

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Is it Gwaihir on his way to rescue Gandalf from the top of the mountain?

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No; and no.
C“mon, who or what flies over shadow-lands?

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Nazgul?

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WHAT do they fly on?

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To avoid contention, for JRRT didn't quite say, let's call them winged steeds. Do they speak verse?

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Is my quote so hard?

And what did their mounts fly on? And who had a chance to sing a song about this?

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Having been led by the hand down the primrose path, I guess that this is the song of the East Wind that Gimli wouldn't sing. And if this is correct, I think that it is a very clever question. But it was mighty hard and I don't pretend to have solved it (if this even is the solution).

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Yes, that“s it (after all <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> ), Galpsi.
Since everyone had access to my clues, and you got it right first, you can go on.


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Who is the putative speaker,
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> In memory of your foresire's exceptional service, I _____, Elessar's son, give you this, prepared in his memory by Findegil of my court. Your foresire lies in our halls but this memorial should rest in your Great Smials.<hr></blockquote>
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Eldarion son of Aragorn II ?
and was it a book of lore or maybe a helm of mithril ?

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Yes, it was Eldarion. Findegil was court scribe so I was trying to sugest the Thain's Book of the Shire, given to the Tooks c. 172(f.a.). Ask us!

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whom is the assumed speaker representing ?

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This sounds like a lament by the remnant of the Dunedain of Cardolan, bittersweet about the suppression of the Witch-King by the Elves of Lindon and Rivendell after the loss of their Lord at Tyrn Gorthad at the hands of the men of Carn Dum.
So to answer your phraseology, I think the speech is representative of Cardolan legitimacy.

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It could be a Nandorin elf speaking after Denethor had died in battle.

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Actually Galpsi now you do owe Taimar one [dollar <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> ]
I used the silm. ch on the sindar almost verbatim [translating Amon Ereb back into english so as to not be too obvious.
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Old 08-01-2000, 04:16 AM   #33
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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Since I owe you one...

Sorry about the delay.

Who could plausibly have said?

&quot;Call the Seven Houses to arms. We must prepare for war!&quot;

For extra kudos, and a nice warm self-congratulatory glow inside, what did the speaker say immediately before?

Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000099>Taimar</A>&nbsp; <IMG SRC=http://www.ezboard.com/ezgfx/gicons/black_ball.gif BORDER=0 WIDTH=10 HEIGHT=10> at: 8/1/00 6:17:43 am
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Old 08-28-2000, 07:59 AM   #34
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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Since I owe you one...

Eldarion?

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Old 08-28-2000, 10:44 PM   #35
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I`m afraid not, the speaker was rather shorter than Eldarion.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Since I owe you one...

Yes, well, God bless Gothmoga for trying to wake the thread up anyhow. But perhaps what the speaker had just previously said was, &quot;This cannot be borne!&quot; If so, the little blighter was Thrain.

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Old 08-29-2000, 04:12 AM   #37
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Precisely, G. Carry on.

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Old 08-29-2000, 12:10 PM   #38
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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Since I owe you one...

OK, who might have said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> But Auntie, you gave him back his hole! Isn't that enough? Let the others shrift for themselves; we've our own to think of right here in Hardbottle!<hr></blockquote>
and to whom, and about what?


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One of the Bracegirdles of Hardbottle (lovely name that, no wonder she wanted to move to a civilized town like Hobbiton) to Lobelia Sackville-Baggins upon learning she'd revised her will to leave all her (and Lotho's) money to Frodo for relief of poor hobbits made homeless by the troubles.

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Sorry to have been so long responding. I forget to look at this topic. You are exactly right. Ask us!

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