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Aragost · 07-30-2002, 02:18 PM

what are the meals of the hobbits?

Ravenna · 07-30-2002, 03:43 PM

anything that stays still long enough!
Seriously though, almost anything, preferably well prepared and in large quantities, hopefully with pleasant company. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

mark12_30 · 07-30-2002, 03:45 PM

Do you mean breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies, luncheon, tea, dinner, supper?

Tolkien said they eat "six meals a day" and dinner "twice a day when they can get it." So it's not cast in stone.

They like mushrooms a lot.

arelendil · 07-31-2002, 03:40 AM

i'd love to know their food favourites. My textiles cafe project (set in rivendell) lacks a meun but making stuff up is not what i want to do any suggestions? please help!

Aragost · 07-31-2002, 08:23 AM

Thnx you peopless

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 07-31-2002, 08:37 AM

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i'd love to know their food favourites.

I would think some would be mushrooms, vegetables grown in a garden, farm animals (lamb, beef, mutton, chicken). I don't know about sauces, I don't think they would have anything fancy.

Bêthberry · 07-31-2002, 09:08 AM

Given the descriptions of extensive farming and lack of mechanization (refrigeration) in The Shire, hobbits would likely use sauces as was common in medieval and renaissance cultures, mainly as food enhancers and preservatives, I would think. Lots of roasts and stews. Fruits, too, especially berries. Pastries and breads.

*begins to get hungry thinking about the topic*

Bethberry

Nimrodel · 07-31-2002, 10:16 AM

Bilbo repetedly mentioned wishing he were back in his Hobbit-hole eating Eggs & Bacon.

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 07-31-2002, 11:45 AM

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hobbits would likely use sauces as was common in medieval and renaissance cultures, mainly as food enhancers and preservatives, I would think.

And here I am, going to major in history, not knowing that. They probably would have also had smoked or salted meat. They also probably ate a lot of bread, as wasd common all over the world. Their bread would probably be simple round loaves.

Bêthberry · 07-31-2002, 02:50 PM

Enjoy your major in history, Aldagrim Proudfoot! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I had a great Chaucer class in third year. We researched medieval cookery, etiquette, and entertainment and mounted a huge medieval feast at the professor's house, complete with throwing bones (safe ones!) under the table for her pets. Roasted a pig in her oven. Even our musical accompaniment represented an effort to be authentic. Our mead and sack, however, was not 800 years old. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

*curtsies cordially*

Bethberry

Scapegoat · 08-02-2002, 03:30 AM

A few hobbit meals are mentioned in the Hobbit and LotR.
At 'The Unexpected Party', Bilbo served seed cake, buttered scones, cold chicken, pickles, and ham and eggs for breakfast. Also tea, beer, ale, porter, coffee, and red wine.

At Maggot's Farm a dish of mushrooms and bacon was prepared by Mrs. Maggot. Apparently a hobbit delicacy.

In Ithilien Samwise made some rabbit stew, seasoned with bay-leaves, thyme, sage and salt. He would have liked to have added carrots, potatoes and turnips. Hobbits seemed to know a great deal about roots and herbs. Samwise also offered to make Gollum some Fish and Chips someday.

The Mayor of the Shire was nicknamed 'Flourdumpling'. From this one might assume that dumplings were part of a hobbits diet.

The Gaffer grew potatoes and cabbages. There was a mill for grinding flour for bread. Hobbits made cheeses, wines, beer and ale. I think I remember sausage being mentioned once. Some hobbits fished and hunted. They raised all the usual farm animals. There were apple orchards and probably other fruits but they aren't mentioned specifically. They probably tended beehives.

I suspect hobbits ate about the same thing as Mr. Tolkien when he was a youngster in England. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 08-02-2002, 08:06 AM

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Some hobbits fished or hunted.

I think quite a few hunted, because that was where they got the bows and arrows used in the Battle of Bywater.

Owain son of Urien · 08-03-2002, 08:21 AM

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I've just eaten a 'hobbit' meal. I had fish and chips for my lunch. If you remember, it's what Sam offered to cook for Gollum, just before they met Faramir.

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": fried fish and chips served by S. Gamgee. You couldn't say no to that."

(p.s. in the UK (like Sam), chips are what we call french fries. We call potato chips, crisps)
(p.p.s. and in a little while, I'll be having 'Tea'; a nice cup of tea with some cake or biscuits, or perhaps some brown bread and butter or cucumber sandwiches.Some 'hobbit' habits are so civilised.) [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ August 03, 2002: Message edited by: Owain son of Urien ]

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 08-03-2002, 01:27 PM

Now, I'm from America, so I am probably wrong, but aren't English chips larger than regular french fries? Kind of like steak fries? I also heard American chips were invented in Saratoga, New York by a disgruntled cook when a customer complained of them being too thick.

Owain son of Urien · 08-03-2002, 02:05 PM

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Yes, British style chips are bigger than french fries. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Niphredil Baggins · 08-04-2002, 09:18 AM

Aww, you guys are making me awful hungry... The 'tea' Bilbo serves to the dwarves is one of my favourite scenes in 'the Hobbit'. Cakes and ham and wine and what not... more food than I ever have in my fridge, so I'd be in trouble if dwarves started appearing at my door one day... but then again, I don't have the 'burglar mark' on my door, just a measure of tape saying 'no ads, please.'

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 08-05-2002, 03:36 PM

I think Bilbo had that much food because hobbits like having company (when invited) and needed that much.

mark12_30 · 08-06-2002, 11:29 AM

I wasn't going to post these until I'd tried them... So ... I tried them both last night, and my husband raved. (So did I... modest, eh?) Thanks to Gilthalion for suggesting Walnut Oil, I like it.

Mrs. Pansy Furrow's Mutton and Mushrooms: Fry up a vidalia onion, chopped, in some Walnut oil. Add chopped mutton (I used Lamb cut off of a lamb shank... need **sharp** knife.) Add mushrooms and white wine.
(warning: you either like mutton or you don't.)

Bolco Took's Cabbage and Roots:
In large pot: some walnut oil and/ or some butter. I used 3 tbsp each. Add two chopped Vidalia onions. Then add 2 chopped turnips; 3 chopped potates; carrots; half a small head of cabbage, chopped. Add white wine whenever you need more liquid. Cook til cabbage is tender. Salt & pepper to taste.
(You could also use beets; rutabagas... whatever. Roots. )

Prevent husband from eating entire pot. Smile.

07-30-2002, 02:18 PM	#1
Aragost Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arthedain Posts: 137	hobbit meals what are the meals of the hobbits? __________________ Where there's a whip there's a will

07-30-2002, 03:45 PM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,407	Do you mean breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies, luncheon, tea, dinner, supper? Tolkien said they eat "six meals a day" and dinner "twice a day when they can get it." So it's not cast in stone. They like mushrooms a lot. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

07-31-2002, 03:40 AM	#4
arelendil Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Eryn Lasgalen Posts: 202	i'd love to know their food favourites. My textiles cafe project (set in rivendell) lacks a meun but making stuff up is not what i want to do any suggestions? please help! __________________ Nai Vardo eleni ilye lumenn' enomentielvo siluvar!

07-31-2002, 08:23 AM	#5
Aragost Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arthedain Posts: 137	Thnx you peopless __________________ Where there's a whip there's a will

07-31-2002, 09:08 AM	#7
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,170	Given the descriptions of extensive farming and lack of mechanization (refrigeration) in The Shire, hobbits would likely use sauces as was common in medieval and renaissance cultures, mainly as food enhancers and preservatives, I would think. Lots of roasts and stews. Fruits, too, especially berries. Pastries and breads. begins to get hungry thinking about the topic Bethberry __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

07-30-2002, 03:43 PM	#2
Ravenna Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: witney, oxfordshire Posts: 70	anything that stays still long enough! Seriously though, almost anything, preferably well prepared and in large quantities, hopefully with pleasant company. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

07-31-2002, 10:16 AM	#8
Nimrodel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Golden Wood Posts: 51	Bilbo repetedly mentioned wishing he were back in his Hobbit-hole eating Eggs & Bacon. __________________ Beside the falls of Nimrodel,By water clear and cool, Her voice as falling silver fell Into the shining pool

07-31-2002, 02:50 PM	#10
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,170	Enjoy your major in history, Aldagrim Proudfoot! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I had a great Chaucer class in third year. We researched medieval cookery, etiquette, and entertainment and mounted a huge medieval feast at the professor's house, complete with throwing bones (safe ones!) under the table for her pets. Roasted a pig in her oven. Even our musical accompaniment represented an effort to be authentic. Our mead and sack, however, was not 800 years old. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] curtsies cordially Bethberry __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

08-02-2002, 03:30 AM	#11
Scapegoat Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New England Posts: 18	A few hobbit meals are mentioned in the Hobbit and LotR. At 'The Unexpected Party', Bilbo served seed cake, buttered scones, cold chicken, pickles, and ham and eggs for breakfast. Also tea, beer, ale, porter, coffee, and red wine. At Maggot's Farm a dish of mushrooms and bacon was prepared by Mrs. Maggot. Apparently a hobbit delicacy. In Ithilien Samwise made some rabbit stew, seasoned with bay-leaves, thyme, sage and salt. He would have liked to have added carrots, potatoes and turnips. Hobbits seemed to know a great deal about roots and herbs. Samwise also offered to make Gollum some Fish and Chips someday. The Mayor of the Shire was nicknamed 'Flourdumpling'. From this one might assume that dumplings were part of a hobbits diet. The Gaffer grew potatoes and cabbages. There was a mill for grinding flour for bread. Hobbits made cheeses, wines, beer and ale. I think I remember sausage being mentioned once. Some hobbits fished and hunted. They raised all the usual farm animals. There were apple orchards and probably other fruits but they aren't mentioned specifically. They probably tended beehives. I suspect hobbits ate about the same thing as Mr. Tolkien when he was a youngster in England. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

08-03-2002, 01:27 PM	#14
Aldagrim Proudfoot Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 328	Now, I'm from America, so I am probably wrong, but aren't English chips larger than regular french fries? Kind of like steak fries? I also heard American chips were invented in Saratoga, New York by a disgruntled cook when a customer complained of them being too thick. __________________ I do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!

08-03-2002, 02:05 PM	#15
Owain son of Urien Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Glamorganshire, Wales Posts: 21	[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Yes, British style chips are bigger than french fries. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

08-04-2002, 09:18 AM	#16
Niphredil Baggins Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 118	Aww, you guys are making me awful hungry... The 'tea' Bilbo serves to the dwarves is one of my favourite scenes in 'the Hobbit'. Cakes and ham and wine and what not... more food than I ever have in my fridge, so I'd be in trouble if dwarves started appearing at my door one day... but then again, I don't have the 'burglar mark' on my door, just a measure of tape saying 'no ads, please.' __________________ Wistful, willful, wingless, fly!

08-05-2002, 03:36 PM	#17
Aldagrim Proudfoot Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 328	I think Bilbo had that much food because hobbits like having company (when invited) and needed that much. __________________ I do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!

08-06-2002, 11:29 AM	#18
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,407	I wasn't going to post these until I'd tried them... So ... I tried them both last night, and my husband raved. (So did I... modest, eh?) Thanks to Gilthalion for suggesting Walnut Oil, I like it. Mrs. Pansy Furrow's Mutton and Mushrooms: Fry up a vidalia onion, chopped, in some Walnut oil. Add chopped mutton (I used Lamb cut off of a lamb shank... need sharp knife.) Add mushrooms and white wine. (warning: you either like mutton or you don't.) Bolco Took's Cabbage and Roots: In large pot: some walnut oil and/ or some butter. I used 3 tbsp each. Add two chopped Vidalia onions. Then add 2 chopped turnips; 3 chopped potates; carrots; half a small head of cabbage, chopped. Add white wine whenever you need more liquid. Cook til cabbage is tender. Salt & pepper to taste. (You could also use beets; rutabagas... whatever. Roots. ) Prevent husband from eating entire pot. Smile. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.