Maps of Middle Earth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Luinadar · 10-08-2002, 03:23 AM

I've always been nearly as entranced by the maps of ME as I have by the texts, and have a fair few cached up by now. Does anyone have any recomendations/links to their favourite map/s?
I would love to see Middle Earth Ordinance Survey type maps, scale 1:50,000 - 1:250,000
or something like that, with contours, colors, battlefields and so on... the more detail the better. Does such a detailed map already exist anywhere?

Selmo · 10-08-2002, 06:58 AM

I have a book titled "The Journys of Frodo" by Barbara Strachley which has reasonably detailed maps of the routes that the various members of The Fellowship followed.
They're not up tp Ordnance Survey standards. I don't think that anyone in the Third Age had the skills for that quallity of mapping.

Eärendil · 10-08-2002, 10:44 AM

Well, this one is my favorite map, and shows the map of Beleriand and the map of the 3rd Age Middle-Earth put together. Am not sure if it´s what you are looking for though.

Luinadar · 10-08-2002, 11:55 AM

Selmo: Thanx for the book reference, I'll get it asap. I kindof guessed there would be little by way of 21st century OS mapping equipment available to Frodo et al ;-) Just wondering if some bright spark had attempted to produce a super-detailed map since then...If not I'd best get started!
Eärendil: Cheers for the link, its a great map - nice and huuge - and it should prove totally useful if I attempt this mapping mission myself. Do you know what scale it is?

[ October 08, 2002: Message edited by: Luinadar ]

Arwen Imladris · 10-09-2002, 11:52 AM

Oooooohhhhhh! That is a very good map! Thag u berry bunch! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

TolkienGurl · 10-09-2002, 03:38 PM

Awesome map! I wish I could do that... I've tried to before but it didn't work out [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Manwe Sulimo · 10-10-2002, 06:18 PM

I'll get started on the map right away....

Let's see, do you want it a map of all of (known) M-e, or just small bits?

I am serious, I will actually sit down and try to do this stuff...

...for a cookie.

Seriously, I have no life. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

And I hope you realize that those two maps aren't to scale with each other...it was 90 leauges from Dor-lómin to Doriath, while the it was a lot more than that from Hobbiton to Rivendell.

[ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: Manwe Sulimo ]

Manwe Sulimo · 10-10-2002, 06:22 PM

I could even put together a M-e/Beleriand composite for you...the reference point is Himling, just so you know.

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Helkasir · 10-10-2002, 08:37 PM

I always wondered where Beleriand fit in the scheme.

"The Journey's of Frodo?" What's that about?

Selmo · 10-11-2002, 09:15 AM

This is a customer review of The Journys of Frodo from barnesandnoble.com

CUSTOMER REVIEWS - An Open Forum
Number of Reviews: 1 Average Rating:

J Georgiou, September 5, 2002,
A Detailed, Intelligently Researched and Helpful Book
These hand-drawn black/red maps follow the journeys made by ALL the fellowship in LotR. Using clues from all available writings, the author has mapped out the journeys, using Ordnance Survey style mapping techniques. Arrowed lines show the routes taken, including sleep and rest stops. It really helps to visualise the story. Have it open as you read Lord of the Rings.

[ October 11, 2002: Message edited by: Selmo ]

10-11-2002, 09:45 AM

I have a book (in German though) that's called The Historical Atlas of Middle Earth. It has maps of all the battles and everything. I might scan something from it and post it, as soon as my wreck of a scanner starts working again, that is. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Diamond18 · 10-11-2002, 10:11 AM

Very cool map, Ëarendil.
*Shocking confession coming up*.
I had such a hard time when I read "The Silmarillion" picturing the geography. The map in the back of the book just confused me because it didn't look anything like Middle-earth and I didn't understand why. But now I get it...by the time of LotR Beleriand is under the sea. *slaps self* I can't believe I didn't get that until now. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Eol · 10-11-2002, 12:13 PM

The book I love a great deal is "The Atlas of Middle-earth by Karen Fonstad. It covers all three ages in detail from the hobbit, silmarillion and lord of the rings. It would be a great investment to purchase one. I know you can get a copy( paper back) on Half.com or amazon for a decent price. I got the original harback for fifteen dollars.

Fool-of-a-Took · 10-15-2002, 01:53 AM

I posted a similar question on TORC and was recommended "The Atlas of Tolkiens Middle Earth" by Karen Wynn Fonstad, and I have to say it is utterly wonderful and exactly what you are looking for.
It contains hundreds of maps from the first age to the fourth, as well as descriptions of climate, population concentration and vegetation. It even has a cut away map of Bag End and The Prancing Pony!
I also own 'The Journeys Of Frodo' but obviosly this only deals wth stuff from LOTR, however it is a very nicely presented companion book.
I think I paid about twelve pounds from Amazon for it as I couldn't find it in any bookshops, but it's worth every penny.
Hope this has been of some help.

Luinadar · 10-15-2002, 11:52 AM

Cheers for the book reference Fool-Of-A-Took! Soz, couldnt resist ;-) Seriously Fonstads atlas sounds like the biz.
You got a great closing quote there too Fool, awesome moment in the Saga!

10-08-2002, 03:23 AM	#1
Luinadar Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vinyamar, Nevrast Posts: 23	Maps of Middle Earth I've always been nearly as entranced by the maps of ME as I have by the texts, and have a fair few cached up by now. Does anyone have any recomendations/links to their favourite map/s? I would love to see Middle Earth Ordinance Survey type maps, scale 1:50,000 - 1:250,000 or something like that, with contours, colors, battlefields and so on... the more detail the better. Does such a detailed map already exist anywhere? __________________ He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust...

10-08-2002, 10:44 AM	#3
Eärendil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor (RtL: 1220 miles) Posts: 562	Well, this one is my favorite map, and shows the map of Beleriand and the map of the 3rd Age Middle-Earth put together. Am not sure if it´s what you are looking for though. __________________ Jag ska aldrig göra dig illa. Inte igen. Åtminstone inte mycket, åtminstone inte hårt. Kommer du ihåg? Då vi fortfarande kunde skratta, le på ett äkta vis. Jag tänker på det ibland. Det smärtar. För aldrig har du väl varit. Längre bort. Från mig.

10-08-2002, 11:55 AM	#4
Luinadar Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vinyamar, Nevrast Posts: 23	Selmo: Thanx for the book reference, I'll get it asap. I kindof guessed there would be little by way of 21st century OS mapping equipment available to Frodo et al ;-) Just wondering if some bright spark had attempted to produce a super-detailed map since then...If not I'd best get started! Eärendil: Cheers for the link, its a great map - nice and huuge - and it should prove totally useful if I attempt this mapping mission myself. Do you know what scale it is? [ October 08, 2002: Message edited by: Luinadar ] __________________ He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust...

10-09-2002, 11:52 AM	#5
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Oooooohhhhhh! That is a very good map! Thag u berry bunch! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

10-09-2002, 03:38 PM	#6
TolkienGurl Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 637	Awesome map! I wish I could do that... I've tried to before but it didn't work out [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Hopes fail. An end comes. We have only a little time to wait now. We are lost in ruin and downfall and there is no escape. -Frodo My Livejournal

10-08-2002, 06:58 AM	#2
Selmo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Shire (Staffordshire), United Kingdom Posts: 273	I have a book titled "The Journys of Frodo" by Barbara Strachley which has reasonably detailed maps of the routes that the various members of The Fellowship followed. They're not up tp Ordnance Survey standards. I don't think that anyone in the Third Age had the skills for that quallity of mapping.

10-10-2002, 06:18 PM	#7
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	I'll get started on the map right away.... Let's see, do you want it a map of all of (known) M-e, or just small bits? I am serious, I will actually sit down and try to do this stuff... ...for a cookie. Seriously, I have no life. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] And I hope you realize that those two maps aren't to scale with each other...it was 90 leauges from Dor-lómin to Doriath, while the it was a lot more than that from Hobbiton to Rivendell. [ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: Manwe Sulimo ] __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

10-10-2002, 06:22 PM	#8
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	I could even put together a M-e/Beleriand composite for you...the reference point is Himling, just so you know. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

10-10-2002, 08:37 PM	#9
Helkasir Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Iron Hills Posts: 89	I always wondered where Beleriand fit in the scheme. "The Journey's of Frodo?" What's that about? __________________ "Onen i-Estal Edain, u-chebin estel anim."

10-11-2002, 09:15 AM	#10
Selmo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Shire (Staffordshire), United Kingdom Posts: 273	This is a customer review of The Journys of Frodo from barnesandnoble.com CUSTOMER REVIEWS - An Open Forum Number of Reviews: 1 Average Rating: J Georgiou, September 5, 2002, A Detailed, Intelligently Researched and Helpful Book These hand-drawn black/red maps follow the journeys made by ALL the fellowship in LotR. Using clues from all available writings, the author has mapped out the journeys, using Ordnance Survey style mapping techniques. Arrowed lines show the routes taken, including sleep and rest stops. It really helps to visualise the story. Have it open as you read Lord of the Rings. [ October 11, 2002: Message edited by: Selmo ]

10-11-2002, 09:45 AM	#11
Lady_of_lothlorien Guest Posts: n/a	I have a book (in German though) that's called The Historical Atlas of Middle Earth. It has maps of all the battles and everything. I might scan something from it and post it, as soon as my wreck of a scanner starts working again, that is. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

10-11-2002, 10:11 AM	#12
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Very cool map, Ëarendil. Shocking confession coming up. I had such a hard time when I read "The Silmarillion" picturing the geography. The map in the back of the book just confused me because it didn't look anything like Middle-earth and I didn't understand why. But now I get it...by the time of LotR Beleriand is under the sea. slaps self I can't believe I didn't get that until now. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

10-11-2002, 12:13 PM	#13
Eol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Pacific Northwest - Tir Nan Og Posts: 306	The book I love a great deal is "The Atlas of Middle-earth by Karen Fonstad. It covers all three ages in detail from the hobbit, silmarillion and lord of the rings. It would be a great investment to purchase one. I know you can get a copy( paper back) on Half.com or amazon for a decent price. I got the original harback for fifteen dollars. __________________ Mes sana in corpec sano- (lt.) A sound mind in a sound body

10-15-2002, 01:53 AM	#14
Fool-of-a-Took Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newcastle England Posts: 14	I posted a similar question on TORC and was recommended "The Atlas of Tolkiens Middle Earth" by Karen Wynn Fonstad, and I have to say it is utterly wonderful and exactly what you are looking for. It contains hundreds of maps from the first age to the fourth, as well as descriptions of climate, population concentration and vegetation. It even has a cut away map of Bag End and The Prancing Pony! I also own 'The Journeys Of Frodo' but obviosly this only deals wth stuff from LOTR, however it is a very nicely presented companion book. I think I paid about twelve pounds from Amazon for it as I couldn't find it in any bookshops, but it's worth every penny. Hope this has been of some help. __________________ ...and his eye, piercing all shadows, looked across the plain to the door that he had made;and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash.

10-15-2002, 11:52 AM	#15
Luinadar Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vinyamar, Nevrast Posts: 23	Cheers for the book reference Fool-Of-A-Took! Soz, couldnt resist ;-) Seriously Fonstads atlas sounds like the biz. You got a great closing quote there too Fool, awesome moment in the Saga! __________________ He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust...