The Ring of Power given to the Dwarves - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

steve · 01-18-2004, 09:12 PM

Recently I have been turning this over in my mind and i have come up with a theory... I believe that Saruon may have given the rings to the dwarves TO make them dwelve deeper in search of riches becuase ultimatley, it brought them to their demise, and awoke the Balrog of Moria. I would appreciate your insight on my theory.

Elassar 516 · 01-18-2004, 09:21 PM

I don't know for sure but I dont think so. I think Sauron gave the rings to the Dwarves just like he gave them to men, hoping to ensnare them, but because the Dwarves were made to resist that kind of thing it only made them lust for treasure more and help them to aquire it.

Finwe · 01-18-2004, 09:29 PM

They weren't exactly made to resist evil. That was just part of their nature. Sauron didn't know that they would not be lured by the power of the Rings, he thought that they were as weak as Men. Even though he as proved wrong, the Dwarves still ended up being doomed.

Frodo2968thewhite · 01-18-2004, 09:34 PM

Although your theory is interesting, it is indeed false. First of all, even though Sauron hated the Dwarves, he knew that he couldn't dominate using men alone, so he NEEDED the Dwarves on his side, not kill them. So he gave them the rings to prolong their life and "condemn" them to become evil, yet powerful, servents of Sauron. Secondly, Sauron did not know that a Balrog was in Moria UNTIL the Dwarves stumled upon it in TA 1980. It was then in 2480 that Sauron sent orcs and trolls to Moria, due to the recent discovery of the Ancient Demon of the Balrog of Khazad-Dum (commonly known as Durin's Bane). Thirdly, It is clearly stated that Sauron's plan with the Dwarven Rings FAILED, and so he tried to take them back because of their uselesness.

Knight of Gondor · 01-18-2004, 09:56 PM

Yes, Steve, you're wrong, wrong, WRONG! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

To add my two (million) cents' worth, I was going to say I doubted that Sauron intended a Balrog to awaken in Moria as it did.

01-18-2004, 09:12 PM	#1
steve Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edoras... er, Philadelphia Posts: 191	The Ring of Power given to the Dwarves Recently I have been turning this over in my mind and i have come up with a theory... I believe that Saruon may have given the rings to the dwarves TO make them dwelve deeper in search of riches becuase ultimatley, it brought them to their demise, and awoke the Balrog of Moria. I would appreciate your insight on my theory. __________________ MAGIC SHOP! Spells of Mass Destruction 20% off! Today Only!

01-18-2004, 09:29 PM	#3
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	They weren't exactly made to resist evil. That was just part of their nature. Sauron didn't know that they would not be lured by the power of the Rings, he thought that they were as weak as Men. Even though he as proved wrong, the Dwarves still ended up being doomed. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

01-18-2004, 09:34 PM	#4
Frodo2968thewhite Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Shire Posts: 95	Although your theory is interesting, it is indeed false. First of all, even though Sauron hated the Dwarves, he knew that he couldn't dominate using men alone, so he NEEDED the Dwarves on his side, not kill them. So he gave them the rings to prolong their life and "condemn" them to become evil, yet powerful, servents of Sauron. Secondly, Sauron did not know that a Balrog was in Moria UNTIL the Dwarves stumled upon it in TA 1980. It was then in 2480 that Sauron sent orcs and trolls to Moria, due to the recent discovery of the Ancient Demon of the Balrog of Khazad-Dum (commonly known as Durin's Bane). Thirdly, It is clearly stated that Sauron's plan with the Dwarven Rings FAILED, and so he tried to take them back because of their uselesness. __________________ INAGURAL GOLDEN RING MARATHON, OCTOBER 20, 2005!!! FRODO LIVES!!!!

01-18-2004, 09:56 PM	#5
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	Yes, Steve, you're wrong, wrong, WRONG! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] To add my two (million) cents' worth, I was going to say I doubted that Sauron intended a Balrog to awaken in Moria as it did. __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

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01-18-2004, 09:21 PM	#2
Elassar 516 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sailing into the West...I wish Posts: 58	I don't know for sure but I dont think so. I think Sauron gave the rings to the Dwarves just like he gave them to men, hoping to ensnare them, but because the Dwarves were made to resist that kind of thing it only made them lust for treasure more and help them to aquire it.