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Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Yes and it is the ALL that is puzzling me!!!! Very tricksy.

It's the plainest thing ever, and that's what is puzzling you.

I suggest looking at how Emyn Muil, in relation to Anduin, fits more than the others.

Also, pay attention to this:

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Labeled on a map - definitely!

Every proper map of ME has it labeled. If not, then it's just against the "grammar rules" of map-making.

Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 02:13 PM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither
Anduin itself - no
Labeled on a map - definitely!
Emyn Muil - no
Falls of Rauros - no
Is it above Rauros - yesno.
Is it situated on the course of the River Anduin? - yesno...
Visited by a fellowship member - yes
Rohan - no

Mithalwen · 06-04-2011, 02:30 PM

I wouldn't knowI was useless at Geography (admittedly we only did Glaciated highlands and the Borneo Sumba) and have had the Journeys of Frodo at hand for a couple of days now....so I resort to UT...expand it further and try Rhovanion.

Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 02:59 PM

You're overcomplicating it, Mith. You don't need any of these, including good geography knowledge (I'm not that good at it either). The answer was mentioned in passing, though you probably didn't realize it.

This is the biggest clue I can give.

Mithalwen · 06-04-2011, 03:41 PM

*whimpers*......... ok Reads through. No help. Back to basics. Is the place East of the Misty Mountains (longitude)?

Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 06:26 PM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither
Anduin itself - no
Labeled on a map - definitely!
Emyn Muil - no
Falls of Rauros - no
Is it above Rauros - yesno.
Is it situated on the course of the River Anduin? - yesno...
Visited by a fellowship member - yes
Rohan - no

East of the Misty Mtns - yesno. Part of it is, but the other part isn't.

Edit: The name is clearly printed on this map, and that's saying something, considering the quality of the image...

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 01:46 AM

Not in Middle Earth but just Middle Earth? Only thing that has been refered to in passing that I can see?

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Not in Middle Earth but just Middle Earth? Only thing that has been refered to in passing that I can see?

Just ME it is!

Quite a big place, isn't it?

I'm sorry for choosing this unordinary thing, but I just couldn't resist it!

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 08:04 AM

I was getting to the point that I might have had to hunt you down and kill you!!

Simple and tricksy too baffling. Right... well I'll give you a clue in return for all teh clues. It ISN'T a place!

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I was getting to the point that I might have had to hunt you down and kill you!!

I should never let a quiz game ruin my life like that again.

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Right... well I'll give you a clue in return for all teh clues. It ISN'T a place!

Thank you!

Is it alive?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 08:48 AM

Quiz's awaken a normally dormant competitive streak.

Not alive, no

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 08:52 AM

Is it a manufactured object?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 08:57 AM

Yes

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 09:00 AM

Is it made by an Elf?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 09:27 AM

No

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 09:37 AM

Made by a Dwarf, then?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 09:48 AM

Not made by a dwarf

Pitchwife · 06-05-2011, 09:50 AM

Is it a weapon?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 09:54 AM

Not a weapon.

Nerwen · 06-05-2011, 10:24 AM

Is it something portable?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 10:54 AM

Portable? Yes

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 12:17 PM

Made by a Man?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 12:22 PM

Noooo. not made by a man.

Tuor in Gondolin · 06-05-2011, 12:34 PM

Made by a bad person/thing.

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 12:47 PM

No not made by a bad person or thing.

Pitchwife · 06-05-2011, 12:58 PM

Mady by an Ainu?

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 01:11 PM

Made by a hobbit?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 02:54 PM

Made by an Ainu - yes
Hobbit - no

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 02:57 PM

Just had a random association when I read the last answers - is it the Ulumuri?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 03:03 PM

Um I guess not because I can't for the life of me think what that is (so kudos for that). I'll goggle it and get back to you.

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 03:05 PM

Ulumuri are Ulmo's horns that were made by a maia Salmar....

Is it made by a maia?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 03:09 PM

THat is what goggle told me too.... yes it was.

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 03:10 PM

Was it made by one of the Istari, then?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 03:33 PM

Yes it was.

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 03:42 PM

It's not Saruman's Ring, erm, ring, by any chance?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 03:53 PM

It isn't I'm afraid.

Pitchwife · 06-05-2011, 04:17 PM

Gandalf's fireworks, then?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 04:45 PM

Nope

Galadriel55 · 06-05-2011, 05:06 PM

Mith, are you trying to get revenge on me?

Was it made in the 3rd age?

Mithalwen · 06-05-2011, 05:15 PM

No but I think you are over thinking this. If you continue to struggle there are a couple of points raised I could comment on which might help but I dont' think I have been misleading in my answers. It is third age.

06-04-2011, 02:13 PM	#6402
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes West of Anduin - yesno Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither Anduin itself - no Labeled on a map - definitely! Emyn Muil - no Falls of Rauros - no Is it above Rauros - yesno. Is it situated on the course of the River Anduin? - yesno... Visited by a fellowship member - yes Rohan - no __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-04-2011, 02:30 PM	#6403
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	I wouldn't knowI was useless at Geography (admittedly we only did Glaciated highlands and the Borneo Sumba) and have had the Journeys of Frodo at hand for a couple of days now....so I resort to UT...expand it further and try Rhovanion. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-04-2011, 02:59 PM	#6404
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	You're overcomplicating it, Mith. You don't need any of these, including good geography knowledge (I'm not that good at it either). The answer was mentioned in passing, though you probably didn't realize it. This is the biggest clue I can give. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-04-2011, 03:41 PM	#6405
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	whimpers......... ok Reads through. No help. Back to basics. Is the place East of the Misty Mountains (longitude)? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-04-2011, 06:26 PM	#6406
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes West of Anduin - yesno Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither Anduin itself - no Labeled on a map - definitely! Emyn Muil - no Falls of Rauros - no Is it above Rauros - yesno. Is it situated on the course of the River Anduin? - yesno... Visited by a fellowship member - yes Rohan - no East of the Misty Mtns - yesno. Part of it is, but the other part isn't. Edit: The name is clearly printed on this map, and that's saying something, considering the quality of the image... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 06-04-2011 at 06:47 PM.

06-05-2011, 01:46 AM	#6407
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Not in Middle Earth but just Middle Earth? Only thing that has been refered to in passing that I can see? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 08:04 AM	#6409
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	I was getting to the point that I might have had to hunt you down and kill you!! Simple and tricksy too baffling. Right... well I'll give you a clue in return for all teh clues. It ISN'T a place! __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 08:48 AM	#6411
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Quiz's awaken a normally dormant competitive streak. Not alive, no __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 08:52 AM	#6412
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Is it a manufactured object? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 08:57 AM	#6413
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Yes __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 09:00 AM	#6414
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Is it made by an Elf? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 09:27 AM	#6415
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	No __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 09:37 AM	#6416
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Made by a Dwarf, then? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 09:48 AM	#6417
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Not made by a dwarf __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 09:50 AM	#6418
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Is it a weapon? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-05-2011, 09:54 AM	#6419
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Not a weapon. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 10:24 AM	#6420
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Is it something portable? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-05-2011, 10:54 AM	#6421
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Portable? Yes __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 12:17 PM	#6422
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Made by a Man? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 12:22 PM	#6423
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Noooo. not made by a man. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 12:34 PM	#6424
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Made by a bad person/thing. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

06-05-2011, 12:47 PM	#6425
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	No not made by a bad person or thing. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 12:58 PM	#6426
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Mady by an Ainu? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-05-2011, 01:11 PM	#6427
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Made by a hobbit? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 02:54 PM	#6428
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Made by an Ainu - yes Hobbit - no __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 02:57 PM	#6429
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Just had a random association when I read the last answers - is it the Ulumuri? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 03:03 PM	#6430
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Um I guess not because I can't for the life of me think what that is (so kudos for that). I'll goggle it and get back to you. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 03:05 PM	#6431
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Ulumuri are Ulmo's horns that were made by a maia Salmar.... Is it made by a maia? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 03:09 PM	#6432
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	THat is what goggle told me too.... yes it was. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 03:10 PM	#6433
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Was it made by one of the Istari, then? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 03:33 PM	#6434
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Yes it was. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 03:42 PM	#6435
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	It's not Saruman's Ring, erm, ring, by any chance? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-05-2011, 03:53 PM	#6436
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	It isn't I'm afraid. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-05-2011, 04:17 PM	#6437
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Gandalf's fireworks, then? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-05-2011, 04:45 PM	#6438
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,449	Nope __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace