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Old 07-24-2003, 02:02 AM   #481
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They all undertook a long expedition, far away from their original homes.
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They all had at one time or another a sword that was made in Gondolin and glowed in the presence of Orcs.
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Wild guess: they all made a perilous journey that involved braving a narrow dangerous pass:
Gandalf: Caradhras (or the Bridge of Khazad-Dum, for that matter!)
Samwise: Cirith Ungol
Thorin: The secret entrance to Erebor
Turgon: The Helcaraxë upon crossing to ME with the Host of Fingolfin

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The World's Tallest Hobbit has it! They all at one time wielded a blade forged in Gondolin.

Pray proceed, Lindol. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-12-2003, 10:13 PM   #485
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Frodo
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Could we add Aragorn to this list? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Is the one thing in common that they all had foster/adoptive fathers?
  • Frodo - adopted by Bilbo
  • Tuor - fostered by the Grey-elves of Mithrim
  • Éowyn - adopted by Théoden
  • Elros - fostered by Maglor
  • Aragorn - raised by Elrond
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Old 08-13-2003, 03:19 PM   #487
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Darn you, adding people to my list... And he fits. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Of course, you're right.
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Old 08-14-2003, 12:13 AM   #488
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Oh Lindolirian! I just thought you omitted Aragorn to put us off the scent. Really. 'Cause it almost worked.

I'm amazed that I got the answer; I haven't read The Silmarillion yet - other than the Index & Appendices. But I had just started reading Unfinished Tales - and so Tuor's childhood was fresh in my mind.

So…my turn, huh? I started to check the thread to prevent duplicating something already here, but 14 pages are too many. I doubt this one has been done.

§ Pippin
§ Pippin, again
§ Boromir
§ Glorfindel
§ Wormtongue
§ Gandalf
§ Ingold (not explicit in the text; I've just inferred this)

An addition to the list:

§ Denethor (he could be on the list twice, too.)

Need a hint? Just ask.

[ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

[ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

Another addition:
§ The Watcher in the Water

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Old 08-19-2003, 09:28 AM   #489
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OK. I'll clean up that list and give you a hint.

§ Gandalf
§ Glorfindel
§ Boromir
§ The Watcher in the Water
§ Pippin
§ Wormtongue
§ Pippin, again
§ Ingold (not explicit in the text; I've just inferred this)
§ Denethor
§ Denethor (same character, another instance)

Since two of these characters from tLotR are listed twice, you should deduce that there is some common action among them. The actions and objects that are acted upon have something in common. Think generally, not specifically.

Hint: I've listed them chronologically.
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Old 08-20-2003, 02:58 AM   #490
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hmmm... was it that they all performed a sudden, angry, flared-up action at one (or two) points?
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Old 08-20-2003, 10:21 AM   #491
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orcs had soemthign to do with there life, got them mad, sucicdeul, killed, made them run etc.
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I've come up with several things but the Watcher keeps throwing me off... all it ever did was attack Frodo... but denethor never attacked anyone, nor did Wormtounge... Another hint maybe? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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They were all guarding something? I can be more explicit if this is the right answer.
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OK. Here are some hints.

Gwaihir the Windlord: Although at least 3 of the characters acted rather calmly, thoughtfully and deliberately, get a scrap of paper and jot down some specifics about these "various sudden, angry, flared-up action"s you're thinking of. You may see a type of OBJECT in common. [Subject verb object.]

Gil-Galad: Sorry, orcs don't figure in any of the actions. OK, in one case, orcs show up in the story as a result of the action.

Cinderella: A hint to you from you...
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I've come up with several things but the Watcher keeps throwing me off ...
Evisse the Blue: No, they're not guarding something. But think of some things that each handled. There is a type of object in common.

HINT: If you consider Caradhras a character, it could be added to the list. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

The object(s) acted upon have more in common than the actions (verbs).

The fact that Pippin and Denethor are each listed twice should be a big clue.

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Old 08-21-2003, 02:25 AM   #495
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I haven't written anything down =], but I've thought of something: was it that they all attacked/actively opposed at some stage a bearer of a Ring of Power? Denethor might not fit this, though, unless you want to count Sauron.
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Mumbles: must be about stone throwing....
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No, Gwaihir the Windlord, that's not it.

Remember, I re-listed the occurances (all from tLotR) chronlogogically.

Shall I give you the dates?

* October 3
* October 11
* December 13
* December 13
* December 13? 14?
* March 5
* March 5
* March 9
* March 15
* March 15

Don't think of a particular object. Think of a general type of object. I'll let you figure out if it's animal, vegetable or mineral.

Ooh!

Telchar posted while I was writing this lenghty bit of dribble.

He's pretty much got it. Stones are absolutely involved - just not always thrown.

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Hi Telchar!

Would you like to elaborate? You've pretty much got it. The stones weren't always thrown, that's all.
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Is it, more generally, that they handled a stone? Pippin dropped a stone into the well in Moria, Denethor handled the Palantir, until Wormtongue hurled it at Gandalf, Glorfindel left the beryl on the last bridge, etc.

The Watcher in the Water was awakened by a stone thrown by Boromir.

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I thought about stones, too, but I can't think of any stone incident involving Gandalf - at least not at the date that you mentioned. (OCt 3) ? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]
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Is that when he was imprisoned in Orthanc?
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Is that when he was imprisoned in Orthanc?
In the appendix it says that Gandalf was attacked on Weathertop om Oct 3. Weird.
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Gandalf - left that stone on which he wrote G III on Weathertop on Oct 3 for the hobbits and Aragorn to see

Glorfindel left a similar token (the beryl stone) at the Mitheithel bridge

Boromir threw a stone in the lake in front of the Moria gates-

which awoke the watcher in the water

Pippin threw a stone in the well in Moria thus alerting the Balrog and the Orcs

Wormtongue throws the Palantir from Saruman's tower

which is caught by Pippin, who later looks in it

Ingold - hmm, I guess he was repairing the stone wall when Gandalf and Pippin met him, so he was definitely handling stones too

Denethor looks into the Palantir for news on March 15 and then burns himself with it.
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Good work, Evisse. I forgot about the rock left on Weathertop by Gandalf -- the one that Aragorn later looks at and opines "This has been handled recently." I always found that funny.
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Thanks, Turambar. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] But you had the 'handling' idea - so it was you who basically solved it.
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Heck no - it was Telchar who came up with the stone idea; he should ask the mext question. Especially since Lostgaerial hasn't said that handling a stone is right. Might be left (or was left) a stone.
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Well I couldnt connect to bd yesterday after I had the stone impusle - but I did write my answer in full as lost.... asked for ;o)

Hmmm as I see it its all about stones ... more or less...

- Gandalf - scrabs his initials on a stone on weathertop
- Glorfindel - leaves a jewel as a token
- Boromir - throws a stone in the dam because it disgusts him
- The Watcher in the Water - piles stones againts the Hollin Gate
- Pippin - throws a stone in the well in Moria
- Wormtongue - spits on a stoneflag in the court of Edoras, and later throws a stone at /saruman/gandalf
- Pippin, again - this time steals and looks in a stone
- Ingold - is when he meets Gandalf and Pippin, doing some masonry on Rammas Echor - stone working
- Denethor mentions (for though the stones be lost....) and use a stone
- Denethor - later chooses to burn himself holding a stone in his hand....


- I probably dont have them all correct ... but these are what springs to mind.


you could also have included: that BILBO put a green stone in his verse in Rivendell; That Boromir wore a single white stone in his collar; that Galadriel gave Aragorn a stone; Gimli helpes Gamling with some stonework; That Aragorn use/looked in the orthanc stone.... there are probably many others.
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Well I really really hope that the above is acceptable because here is a new question:

Halbarad
Eomer
Aragorn
Merry
Theoden
Bilbo


Its fairly easy, but if you need hints some 4 to 5 names could be added to the above.
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They were all givers of gifts:
Halbarad presents Aragorn with the royal banner,
Eomer gives horses to Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli when they first meet,
Aragorn gives Faramir the land of Ithilien, Merry offers Saruman some of his pipeweed when they meet him on the way home,
Theoden gives Gandalf Shadowfax,
Bilbo gives Frodo Bag End, and of course, an accursed ring. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Well? Probably I'm miles away from the true answer, as usual... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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You are absolutely correct: You're miles away - it was however a very good guess. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

HINT: They all did the same thing.
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Umm... they all rode?
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Sorry, thats not it either. Instead of direct hints I'll just add a name or two to the list for each wrong guess.

Halbarad
Eomer
Aragorn
Merry
Theoden
Bilbo
Ted Sandyman
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They all blew on a horn.
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they all did something for there country/people

(Ted ran a mill which gave food for hobbiton i guess)
(Bilbo surprised everyone by going out of the shire, showing no fear, kinda)
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Lindolirian is absolutely correct. Please go on.
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Sorry, I got busy and didn't make it back to OK Telchar's answer to my question, as I should have. (August 14-22)

The one thing in common was the placing or positioning (set, drop, throw) of a stone (rock, pebble). [I did not want to include looking into a Palantír or wearing a stone/gem.]

· Gandalf – makes (?) the stone cairn, or at least puts the the topmost stone upon it, at Weathertop to leave a message for Strider, A Knife in the Dark
· Glorfindel – left a beryl on the Last Bridge as a token, Flight to the Ford
· Boromir – dropped a pebble into the lake before the West Gate of Moria & disturbed the Watcher of the Water, A Journey in the Dark
· The Watcher in the Water – piled up boulders (and the two holly trees) against the West Gate of Moria, A Journey in the Dark
· Pippin – dropped a pebble into well in the guard room next archway leading to three passages in Moria & disturbed the orcs, etc., A Journey in the Dark
· Wormtongue – dropped or threw the Palantír from the balcony of Orthanc, trying to hit Saruman or Gandalf, The Voice of Saruman
· Pippin – placed a stone under Gandalf’s arm to replace the Palantír, The Palantír
· Ingold – positions stones in a wall – leader of the men repairing using hammers & trowels to repair the stone wall of the Rammas Echor, Minas Tirith
· Denethor – placed the Palantír on the marble table for his pillow in the tombs, The Pyre of Denethor
· Denethor – placed the Palantír upon his breast when he laid himself on the table in the burning pyre, The Pyre of Denethor
· Caradhras – “…the sounds were those of shrill cries, and wild howls of laughter. Stones began to fall from the mountain-side, whistling over their heads, or crashing on the path beside them. …”, The Ring Goes South

Sure glad you continued on with the game.
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And long may this game continue ... but on another thread. This one's getting too long.

I will open up a new thread so that Lindolirian may continue with the next question.
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White-Hand One Thing in Common (cont)

This is a continuation of One Thing in Common, the previous thread having been closed as a result of its length.

The rules, originally posted by Lostgaeriel, are as follows:

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In this game, you must identify the one thing in common for the persons (or things or places) in the list. Of course, there may be more than one thing in common and the quizzer may not have thought of all of them. Quizzer's discretion as to whether alternate answer will be accepted.
Lindolirian correctly answered the last question on the previous thread, and so it is his turn to ask the next.
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Old 08-31-2003, 04:17 PM   #519
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Old 09-07-2003, 07:20 PM   #520
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This isn't that hard... or is the hardest part scrolling down and looking at old topics? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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