Where does Cardolan lie? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eärendil · 07-28-2002, 10:16 AM

I have been wondering for a while... I have already checked where Carn Dûm is, and Angmar (hint: Barrow-Wight´s title), as I wanted to see exactly where everything is. And I can´t seem to find Cardolan, where is it? My map doesn´t show.... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

*Varda* · 07-28-2002, 10:26 AM

I think Cardolan might have been in Beleriand. I'll look and try and find out.

The Fifth · 07-28-2002, 10:28 AM

I don't know what Carn Dûm or Cardolan is. Could someone explain to me or show me some links to which I may find more information?

*Varda* · 07-28-2002, 10:34 AM

Well Cardolan isn't in Beleriand [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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The name given to the central and southern regions of Arnor; a separate kingdom after the death of Eärendur, whose rulers were descendants of one of his younger sons.

This is according to theEncylopedia Of Arda

As for Carn Dum:

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Peak in the far north of the Misty Mountains, the site of the ancient capital of the Witch-king of Angmar.

piosenniel · 07-28-2002, 10:52 AM

In 861 of the Third Age, the realm of Arnor(the northern kngdom of the Dùnedain which was adjacent to Gondor and northwest of it)was divided into three separate states: Arthedain, Rhudaur, and Cardolan (Land of Red Hills). Cardolan was the southern most of these states and the one that bordered Gondor.

The Watch Tower of Amon Sûl lay on the border between Cardolan and Rhudaur. Rhudauer fell under the influence of the Angmar and warred with Cardolan. In the final invasion of the Shadow's forces into Cardolan, the watchtower was burned, and the people of Cardolan were forced to take refuge in Tyrn Gorthad(the Barrow Downs) and the Old Forest.

If you'ld like to see maps concerning this, I'd like to refer you to The Atlas of Middle-earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad, pg. 51-58.

Eärendil · 08-02-2002, 11:42 AM

That was a great and detailed answer, thanx! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

07-28-2002, 10:16 AM	#1
Eärendil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor (RtL: 1220 miles) Posts: 562	Where does Cardolan lie? I have been wondering for a while... I have already checked where Carn Dûm is, and Angmar (hint: Barrow-Wight´s title), as I wanted to see exactly where everything is. And I can´t seem to find Cardolan, where is it? My map doesn´t show.... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ Jag ska aldrig göra dig illa. Inte igen. Åtminstone inte mycket, åtminstone inte hårt. Kommer du ihåg? Då vi fortfarande kunde skratta, le på ett äkta vis. Jag tänker på det ibland. Det smärtar. För aldrig har du väl varit. Längre bort. Från mig.

07-28-2002, 10:26 AM	#2
Varda Maiden of Tears Join Date: May 2002 Location: Valinor. Posts: 572	I think Cardolan might have been in Beleriand. I'll look and try and find out. __________________ 'It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: someone has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them' ~Frodo "Life is hard. After all, it kills you." - Katharine Hepburn

07-28-2002, 10:28 AM	#3
The Fifth Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mordor Posts: 427	I don't know what Carn Dûm or Cardolan is. Could someone explain to me or show me some links to which I may find more information? __________________ - Ringwraith #5, Servant of the Eye

07-28-2002, 10:52 AM	#5
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,816	In 861 of the Third Age, the realm of Arnor(the northern kngdom of the Dùnedain which was adjacent to Gondor and northwest of it)was divided into three separate states: Arthedain, Rhudaur, and Cardolan (Land of Red Hills). Cardolan was the southern most of these states and the one that bordered Gondor. The Watch Tower of Amon Sûl lay on the border between Cardolan and Rhudaur. Rhudauer fell under the influence of the Angmar and warred with Cardolan. In the final invasion of the Shadow's forces into Cardolan, the watchtower was burned, and the people of Cardolan were forced to take refuge in Tyrn Gorthad(the Barrow Downs) and the Old Forest. If you'ld like to see maps concerning this, I'd like to refer you to The Atlas of Middle-earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad, pg. 51-58. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

08-02-2002, 11:42 AM	#6
Eärendil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor (RtL: 1220 miles) Posts: 562	That was a great and detailed answer, thanx! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Jag ska aldrig göra dig illa. Inte igen. Åtminstone inte mycket, åtminstone inte hårt. Kommer du ihåg? Då vi fortfarande kunde skratta, le på ett äkta vis. Jag tänker på det ibland. Det smärtar. För aldrig har du väl varit. Längre bort. Från mig.