Smoking ban.... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

davem · 06-14-2010, 11:38 PM

We had a similar story a while back about Liverpool Council, but now Plymouth is in on the plans Films featuring smoking could be given 18 certificate in bid to stop children taking up habit http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ing-habit.html

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Russ Moody, manager of Plymouth NHS Stop Smoking Service, said: 'This is about shaping the culture that surrounds the use of tobacco.

'Once people understand why we are doing it, to protect young people and highlight the dangers associated with smoking, on the whole, most people are compliant.'

He added: 'The driving force behind the long-term strategy is protection of young people.

Love the bit about people being 'compliant'.

Looks like TH, if it gets made, will either not show smoking, or get an 18 certificate.

Mind you, if it can happen to Churchill http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...der-cigar.html what chance has Bilbo got?

Just waiting for the censors to get going on all those pics of Tollers with his pipe ....

Inziladun · 06-17-2010, 08:11 AM

It's funny how governments want to demonise tobacco, but alcohol is much more of a danger to society as a whole than cigarettes. When was the last time someone smashed up a car because they were under the influence of a cigarette? Are they going to remove the references in The Hobbit to the Dwarves drinking beer at Bag End?

Morthoron · 06-17-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

It's funny how governments want to demonise tobacco, but alcohol is much more of a danger to society as a whole than cigarettes. When was the last time someone smashed up a car because they were under the influence of a cigarette? Are they going to remove the references in The Hobbit to the Dwarves drinking beer at Bag End?

Cigarettes and beer? What about a dwarf burying an axe in an Orcs head? What about Beorn the bear ripping off arms and legs? Decapitations, disembowelments, limb shivering, bone crushing, trepanning.

Oh, that's right. Adolescents don't become over-aggressive by being exposed to violent imagery, but they immediately start smoking as soon as a cig is lit.

Priorities.

skip spence · 06-17-2010, 11:15 PM

Yes people are very compliant. Thing is, no one in their right mind would think that teenagers will pick up smoking because they see Bilbo with a pipe in The Hobbit. Still, "rules are rules" and if one film featuring smoking is affected by regulations all others must be too...

davem · 06-17-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Morthoron

Oh, that's right. Adolescents don't become over-aggressive by being exposed to violent imagery, but they immediately start smoking as soon as a cig is lit.
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I don't know - there was a gardening programme on BBC2 the other week, & the next day we had gangs of kids wandering around planting begonias & laying decking. There was an £15 million investigation conducted by Cambridge University on behalf of the Government & it was proven to be a direct result of them seeing a bloke on the telly doing the exact same thing. (This actually led to a programme about pointillism being removed from the schedules the following week due to fears that a shortage of materials in art shops could lead to rioting. When people were told the reason for the programme not being shown they were, by & large, compliant).

Personally, I feel its about time everything was banned, just in case - won't somebody please think of the children? As far as The Hobbit movie is concerned, if my little boy sees that, & runs off with a Wizard & thirteen Dwarves in order to steal back treasure from a dragon I WILL SUE SOMEBODY.

Fair warning,

Andsigil · 06-18-2010, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Morthoron

Cigarettes and beer? What about a dwarf burying an axe in an Orcs head? What about Beorn the bear ripping off arms and legs? Decapitations, disembowelments, limb shivering, bone crushing, trepanning.

Oh, that's right. Adolescents don't become over-aggressive by being exposed to violent imagery, but they immediately start smoking as soon as a cig is lit.

Priorities.

I don't mind a bit of violence in entertainment, considering a) the lifestyle of those who dislike western civilization (Chesty Puller had a surprisingly profound quote about this) and b) the extreme and, well, loony pendulum swing in the opposite direction at our zero-tolerance-embracing public schools.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 06-18-2010, 06:09 AM

The last Die Hard film was bumped down to a 15, or whatever, because they cut out the swearing. So, while all the impressionable youngsters were seeing scene after scene of violence and death, they at least didn't have to put up with some rough words.

06-18-2010, 10:47 PM

Hi,

Banning the smoking cannot much affect the movie audience as well as other people, Smoking scenes in the movie gives a good look but it doesn't effects much if that scene is deducted from it. As I think the banned should be done in there area where there are little children's or the people who can't bear the smoke of cigarette, etc.

08-30-2010, 04:08 AM

When the smoking ban came into force in England on 1 July 2007, throughout the United Kingdom became a smoking area. During the first year, the Ministry of Health said 400,000 people quit smoking. But what are the rules and where you go, that crafty ?

06-17-2010, 08:11 AM	#2
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,058	It's funny how governments want to demonise tobacco, but alcohol is much more of a danger to society as a whole than cigarettes. When was the last time someone smashed up a car because they were under the influence of a cigarette? Are they going to remove the references in The Hobbit to the Dwarves drinking beer at Bag End? __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

06-17-2010, 11:15 PM	#4
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,143	Yes people are very compliant. Thing is, no one in their right mind would think that teenagers will pick up smoking because they see Bilbo with a pipe in The Hobbit. Still, "rules are rules" and if one film featuring smoking is affected by regulations all others must be too... __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

06-18-2010, 06:09 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,992	The last Die Hard film was bumped down to a 15, or whatever, because they cut out the swearing. So, while all the impressionable youngsters were seeing scene after scene of violence and death, they at least didn't have to put up with some rough words. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

06-18-2010, 10:47 PM	#8
jamerann Guest Posts: n/a	Hi, Banning the smoking cannot much affect the movie audience as well as other people, Smoking scenes in the movie gives a good look but it doesn't effects much if that scene is deducted from it. As I think the banned should be done in there area where there are little children's or the people who can't bear the smoke of cigarette, etc.

08-30-2010, 04:08 AM	#9
kimsmarkin Guest Posts: n/a	When the smoking ban came into force in England on 1 July 2007, throughout the United Kingdom became a smoking area. During the first year, the Ministry of Health said 400,000 people quit smoking. But what are the rules and where you go, that crafty ?