Game Thread: Werewolf- this time it's real!

[Isabellkya]

You are now fined the rest of your votes for such laziness Nilp.
Err well, perhaps cookies?
Money?

[Kent2010]

Because he had revealed 2 days ago and thought he was going to be dead then, but nope they went for Brinn.

[Isabellkya]

Uhhh huh.
Likely story there Kent.
Since when do you and Form share thoughts?
Or perhaps someone has made vast developments on the art of telepathy?
I know I've heard conspiracy theories about Government experiments and such things. As well as learning it in five days.. But I find this highly unlikely.

I'm glad I am of the mind, where I don't think known innocents are omniscient. There fore their word is no where near law.

[Isabellkya]

Which by the way.
Why haven't you voted yet?
You seen absolutely positive that both Nilp and Izzy are baddies.

[Kent2010]

I told you to check the Luthien rules for the answer. His whole Grima blocked his power was to protect the person he transmitted the dream to - ahem

Take notice though of how I popped in to seemingly randomly cast a vote for Nilp and now I will tell you to read the entire thread, particularly Formendacil's posts.

For me, it's work time.

[Isabellkya]

Your theory that he said his dream was blocked, so as to protect whomever he passed it to - is... down on the probability list I believe.

You think that the wolves would forgo killing him, just to go after a guess at whomever he could've given the dream to, and get it right?

Why would they even expect that he passed his dream on that night?

X'd with Kent.

[Kent2010]

Isabellyka, you have the timeline way messed up.

The day before Brinn died, Formendacil revealed. He thought for sure he was going to be dead that night. That is when he picked to transmit the dream to someone. Brinn was killed by the baddies, since they believed she really was Finrod (that is not disputed). Formendacil came out the next day and claimed Brinn blocked his dream, but that was merely for protection to make the wolves feel they had escaped a bullet. Brinn didn't block his dream, the dream came through clearly.

Now I really do have to go, so this will have to continue until I get back, but I will love to answer any further questions you have.

[Isabellkya]

How do I have the timeline 'way messed up'?
You've barely answered anything I've already questioned.

That Day, did he say 'I am Luthien?' He even said something close to 'I all but came out as the Seer'. Semantics man. 'all but' and 'revealed' are not the same thing.

Why would he need to make the wolves feel they escaped a bullet?
Why not come out yesterDay with the passed on dream result?
On what, Nilp? Green?. You've never specified.
Would've saved Sally from death. Would put us in a better position toDay.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Kent, you say I'm a Wolf?

Go ahead, bring it on. I'll take you down with me.

[Isabellkya]

I think a glove smacking should be involved here.
Much more dramatic flair I think.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

As you wish, m'lady.

*is taking gloves off* Hmmm . . . why I get the sinking feeling that you two planned this?

(Oh, vy ze whey, will the real Finrod please not speak up? Hehe.)

[Isabellkya]

Ahaha.
This pub gets lousy YouTube results.
Otherwise I would've find a fitting video.
I thought Monty Python had one.
I know Homer Simpson does.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

All right, so we have:

• two innocents cleared by Lúthien;
• hoping Lúthien's last dream transmitted to an ordo (perhaps innocent); and
• hoping that Finrod is not one of the aforementioned.

That means we have possibly four known innocents, that's half of the village.

Ah, but this bonus votes issue is skewing majority voting. >.< I'm hoping to have you four eliminate the four unknowns, so we'll have a 75% chance of getting one of the baddies.

What if we all agree not to use our bonus votes toDAY? Hmmm . . .

Oh, darn, it's a bad DAY for us if we have to resort to plans like this to have a chance of winning. It's like being forced to use your Encircled Terrain before he uses his Desperate Wager. (And you don't even know if the other side has anti-terrain meta.) >.<

[Kent2010]

Go ahead, bring it on. I'll take you down with me.
-Nilp

I'm all for a 1 for 1 exchange.

Why would he need to make the wolves feel they escaped a bullet?
-Isabellyka

I don't know why Formendacil did what he did, you can ask him afterwards. But, he was not completely lying when he said he didn't have a dream the prior night, because he wouldn't get the message when he transmits. He had no idea, but you should notice he trusted my Nilp vote, and did not vote for Sally, eventhough he appeared more suspicious about her.

Why not come out yesterDay with the passed on dream result?
On what, Nilp? Green?. You've never specified.
Would've saved Sally from death. Would put us in a better position toDay.

I needed more information. I couldn't just spill the beans immediately, everyone would jump on the bandwagon and we'd get nothing out of it. And based on the joke action we've had the past couple days, I was going to try and get whatever additional information I could by putting Nilp under pressure. The two bonus votes I added towards the end, I wasn't concerned about Thuringwethil, I wanted to see who and how far people would go to save him.

I can only assume the three feel they have a strong amount of bonus and thought it didn't matter if they blatantly save Nilp.

As far as Sally, I wrongfully assumed she was going to use her bonus to save herself.

Edit: I deleted my message above this, because I had accidentally hit "enter/post" in the middle of typing - I didn't change any words promise, just added the rest of what I wanted to say

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Let me get this straight--Kent, are you saying that Form sent you his dream about me, and I was a Wolf in it?

Is there a secret thing here about muddling the Lúthien dream?

This is why I've been rather heated when discussing this thing with you. I know what I am, and I know you are false when you are accusing me otherwise.

Please get vendetta out of this game. Otherwise I'll just get myself modfired and hand the Wolves the victory.

[Kent2010]

What if we all agree not to use our bonus votes toDAY? Hmmm . . .
-Nilp

I was going to suggest we dump them all, and that means everyone, we dump all bonus and that way we get a clean slate and may the best side win.

[Kent2010]

Hmm...or we dump them all except for Fea, as she would be the only person with bonus we could trust at this point.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

If you can get blind rage out of your senses you can see I'm the only one toDAY who's been pondering how we can survive this DAY.

Green being innocent helps; let's just hope that Shasta and Gwath are both not evil.

I'll leave it to Finrod if he'll heed my plan in 773. But the good side needs direction in their votes.

z.B. if Shasta is our Finrod, then:

Innocent:
Fea
Green
Kent
Shasta

Unknown:
Gwath
Izzy
Lari
Nilp

Then just proceed to lynch one of the unknown, without using bonus votes. But if one of them struggles (uses bonus votes), then have at xim, and force xim to draw out xyr allies.

[Kent2010]

If you can get blind rage out of your senses you can see I'm the only one toDAY who's been pondering how we can survive this DAY.
-Nilp

It's not blind rage, buddy, it was necessary for me to figure you out. I would be lying if I said today I wasn't suspicious of you and that was based on the voting action at the end of the day. And because of that you were the most convincing person I could fake.

I received no transmission, I've been doing whatever I can to gather information about people, because heaven knows action has been sparse. Now as I said people might not like my strategy and I apologize for causing any unwarranted frustration, but I assure you it was neccessary to help me figure you out.

You passed...that's a good thing.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

You, sir, are far better at eliciting reactions from people than I am. For that, I salute you.

I am most honoured to be in your first game.

Just hoping that somehow, we could pull off a win. (I also need to snap a three-game losing streak. >.< )

Last minute thoughts before I leave for supper (I'll be back right before the deadline; hoping I won't return to hear the baddies gloating):

I do hope the person we'll lynch (if we do get a Wolf) is not Thuringwethil; it would give us another target for tomorrow.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

A minor correction: I'm on a four-game losing streak (Nogrod's DW, Mac's, Brinn's, and Durelin's.)

I hate dueling.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

And I would appreciate being the center of attention while I give it.

So if you would all just gather 'round...

[Lariren Shadow]

So Form was Luthien...and said this after I left and that Kent is innocent...oops with my vote...and now he's dead.

I was just wondering how we knew the vampire killed him and then noticed his bonus votes were gone. Ok so we should make sure to see what is going on with the bonus votes.

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

And I would appreciate being the center of attention while I give it.

So if you would all just gather 'round...

Do tell!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

Do tell!

I'm waiting for a bigger audience. I'm also reading back in order to learn a few things, as I've been unforgivably lazy until now.

[Lariren Shadow]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I'm waiting for a bigger audience. I'm also reading back in order to learn a few things, as I've been unforgivably lazy until now.

It's not like I've been doing that much better

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Kent, you're dead wrong when you say Form was lying to protect the person he transmitted his dream to the Night Brinn was attacked.

Because he wasn't lying. Because he hadn't transmitted his dream yet.

He saved that for last Night.

It was a pretty dream. Lots of colors. Well, just one, actually. My favorite.

All y'all listening?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

If Form hadn't already confirmed Kent as innocent, I'd smite him where he stood. Just sayin'.

I saw some things I wanted to reply to, but I'll have to scroll back up to see them. I was distracted by the shininess of Fea's announcement.

[Isabellkya]

You needed more information?
I don't know if you've perhaps noticed... but we aren't exactly in a situation, nor were we - for scouting missions.

Had you come out with it yesterDay. Sally would be alive, and we would have more bonus votes at our disposal toDay.

If Form trusted your Nilp vote, then why didn't he use all of his bonus votes?

If it is true that Form passed on this dream to you, and if it is true that he is a Wolf/Vampire - then we should vote him toDay, as he has the least amount of bonus votes.

I say if, for a few reasons.

Now, if you would kindly specify for the record. Form passed on a guilty dream of Nilp? You are assuming Green is innocent?

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*is all about lynching Kent a hundred times over*

You've just wasted the villages time Kent.


X'd with Fea and Shasta.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Methinks Fea knows a wolf. Tell, tell!

[Isabellkya]

I hope she does.
I already want my money back for Kent's show.

xD

[Isabellkya]

Psst, you were in Sally's game Nilp.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

If it is true that Form passed on this dream to you, and if it is true that he is a Wolf/Vampire - then we should vote him toDay, as he has the least amount of bonus votes.

Go read post #779 - it seems that was a ploy on Kent's part to help him analyze Nilp.

Well, this has been a weird Day.

EDIT: Crozzed with Shasta and 2x Izzy

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'm totally with you in booing him off the stage.

Uncharitable? Perhaps, and I don't deny that it did elicit reactions, but all I'll say is Nilp is an accomplished actor.

Edit: X'ed with Izzy and Gwath.

[Isabellkya]

I was responding to posts as I read the thread Gwath.
You can see that by all of the dots - that is when I read his errm show reveal.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I was responding to posts as I read the thread Gwath.
You can see that by all of the dots - that is when I read his errm show reveal.

Ok! I see.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Psh, now all y'all start posting...

Yes, in his dying moments, Luthiendacil bequeathed unto me such dream information that I found me a wolf, and her name, pretty little thing, is Green, and killing her is at the top of my list of priorities.

[Lariren Shadow]

So Form did pass on a dream to Fea?

Did he? I guess what I'm asking is this: He knew that Nog, Kent, Fea, and I think Brinn were innocent. Definatly the first three. Ok read that wrong, he did know that the first three are known innocents, maybe one of the Pippin because Brinn is dead.

But he got three Night dreams: Night 1, 2, and 3. Night 4(I think I have this right) he was blocked.

So he knew all of his dreams. He didn't pass it on, at least not that I can tell and not that is lining up. Unless he was bluffing about dreaming about Nog, who was dead at the time and therefore could have been said he was a dream to throw us off. We actually don't know and can't really trust what Fea will say even though we know she is an innocent, from the dreams.

Edit: x-posted with Fea.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Lari, darling of mine, who cross-posted with me from where you are working upstairs in the library from whence I type-

I absolutely defy you to claim my Green-reveal is invalid.

She is evil, and that's all there is to it.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Lari, you're wrong. Form's dream of Greenie would have been for Night 5; even though he was killed, he knew that would happen, so he transmitted his dream to one of his known innocents. It's just lucky for us he happened to hit on a baddie.

This, however, presents a quandary. Given so far that the only three people left with all their bonus votes are Gwath, Greenie, and I... And given that all bonus votes used so far have counted... Since it's not Greenie, I think it's a pretty fair assumption that either Gwath or I is Pippin and thus our bonus votes are useless. I'm not sure we're going to be able to lynch Greenie even knowing she's a baddie.

[Isabellkya]

Hmm.

If true, will her mates try to save her?
Doing it openly? Or sneakily?