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Old 04-12-2013, 06:31 AM   #1
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1420! Save the Clock Tower

There are about 100 or so regular visitors to the Downs, and for their sake and the sake of the long history of the forum, I just can't let the barrow slip away without a fight.

I am going to try to figure this issue out.

I will be purchasing and installing an upgrade to the forum software, which should solve the problems. We've upgraded before with success, so we should be able to do so again.

Here are the factors involved in the upgrade:

- It costs $209. I'm paying for it, but if anyone cares to chip in, please PM me and we'll figure something out. Donations will be greatly appreciated, but they are completely voluntary.
- I've got two other projects taking a lot of my time this weekend, so it may take me several days to actually get things working correctly again.
- My web maintenance skills have deteriorated so much, I may not be able to figure our how to install the upgrade (unlikely)
- The upgrade might not fix the problem, or might make it worse (very unlikely)

Please reply to let me know if it's worth the time, money, and effort.

It is to me. The Barrow-Downs has been around in one form or another since 1998, and I enjoy it every day, even if my participation nowadays is kicking a handful of spammer accounts a day.

Let me know what you think by replying here, and PM me if you are interested in helping financially.

Thanks!
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:14 AM   #2
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Thumbs up Let's Keep Our Deathly Hangout!

This place has really become so much a part of my daily routine, its absence would make me feel like Frodo after the Ring's destruction.

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After all, where else can I bad-mouth Peter Jackson, harp on Túrin, and gleefully kill hapless villagers in the Night in wolf-form?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:17 AM   #3
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After all, where else can I bad-mouth Peter Jackson, harp on Túrin, and gleefully kill hapless villagers in the Night in wolf-form?
Just so, just so And it already gave me so much, so there is no need to prove its worth to me.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:01 PM   #4
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Great quote, Inzil!

The Downs has been too much a part of my life these last ten years for me to want to see it disappear this way. It has led me on to Oxonmoots, to the Tolkien Society and Return of the Ring, and perhaps more significantly to various moots with other Downers across three continents and several oceans. It has inspired one book--Music in Middle-earth--and there's quite possibly another forthcoming.

There's still enough wraiths floating around to make it habitable.

Count me in and see the PM.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:38 PM   #5
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I would be incredibly sad to see this site go. It has been and still is the source of a huge online group of friends and I don't think our connection would be the same without it.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:18 PM   #6
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:59 PM   #7
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I'm not on here half as much as I would or half as much as it deserves, but goodness gracious this place is important to me. I will be celebrating 10 years on here in December. That is longer than I've cared for anything the internet has put out there. A PM is forthcoming
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:04 PM   #8
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After all, where else can I bad-mouth Peter Jackson, harp on Túrin, and gleefully kill hapless villagers in the Night in wolf-form?
And where else could I disagree so enjoyably on the issues of COH? But, of course, the other two points are very applicable.

Off to send a PM.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:30 PM   #9
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In a hole in t'internet there lived a Barrow-wight. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms, an oozy smell, flamers and trolls, nor yet a dry, bare sandy Leggie-fangurl-infested hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was the Barrow-Downs hole, and that means comfort.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:09 AM   #10
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The Downs is kind of a home to me. No matter where I've lived or stayed, and how cozy or unpleasant it's been, the Downs has been an extra room (or wing, actually) that I could enter.
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I love this place so much but I am totally broke at the moment until the house sells... but if it can weather this storm I will make sure I will have something put aside for the next one....
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:41 PM   #12
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We have weathered some rocky transitions before. I'll help as much as possible with the upgrade/reconfig, but like you, my fu has atrophied considerably.

Or maybe it will be like riding a bike (unlikely).
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:36 PM   #13
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:59 PM   #14
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Old 04-14-2013, 03:06 AM   #15
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This community has given me so much I really should give something back. I'll contribute what I can. PM arriving your way any time soon.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:15 AM   #16
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This place has really become so much a part of my daily routine, its absence would make me feel like Frodo after the Ring's destruction.

After all, where else can I bad-mouth Peter Jackson, harp on Túrin, and gleefully kill hapless villagers in the Night in wolf-form?
Well said, my furry friend!

Even for those of us who mainly hang out in Mirth, it would still be quite a blow to see our lovely site gone. This place has been so good to me, and I've "met" so many wonderful people through it, that I'd be a horrible person not to help in any way I can. A PM is headed your way, my dear sir.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:26 AM   #17
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The Barrow-Downs has been a safe and fun place for the past five years for me. I don't have a lot of money, but I will help out any way I can to save the Downs. I have met so many wonderful people here who are now my friends, indeed, some of them are very good friends. If the Downs were to be lost, part of me would also be lost. Off to PM.
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Old 04-14-2013, 12:20 PM   #18
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Even though this is my first post in a while, and I don't come on here very often anymore, knowing that it's here whenever I want to show up or to look back on old threads, is comforting to me. This site means a lot to me, and I definitely don't want it to go away! (also PMing right now)
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Old 04-14-2013, 04:43 PM   #19
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Downers Deliver!

We have had a great response to my please for assistance. Thank you, everyone.

Master Thenamir has a potential fix that will require him to go deep into the subcellar of the barrow to kick some pipes and bricks. If he finds what's loose and sets it right, we may be able to un-depracate ourselves. If not, I'll be contacting everyone who is PMing me and let you know how you can help.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:14 PM   #20
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Pipe

I'm rarely here these days and have no idea what this deprecation nonsense is, but I'm willing to help out if I can. Give me a shout if you need a spare pair of hands (I have them in three sizes and all major species).
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:10 AM   #21
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I've bought the upgrade software but can't figure out how to install it safely. But I thought I'd at least let you know i am really working on it.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:15 PM   #22
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Outstanding. I'll send techie-type harmonic vibes your way.

Please let us know how to help with the cost!
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:37 PM   #23
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Ditto. Just tell me where to mail the money.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:39 PM   #24
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So where did everybody go? This place was quite lively a yer ago.
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You tell us... I haven't been anywhere...quieter yes due too various rl issues and not wanting to be the one who knocks the Pan Man orf his perch..but here...
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In addition to what Mith said, I think there's a general "wait and see" stance from a lot of folks in anticipation of the forum upgrade.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:18 AM   #27
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I check in every day but RL eats up much of my free time to post. I do have some ideas for threads that, once spring gardening season concludes, might bloom here.

Please let me know, BW, how I can contribute to the software.

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Back up and running, I see. And not deprecated! Well done, BW!
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Well done tech wizards! And thank you.
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Thumbs up barrowdowns.com to be renamed thenamir.com

After a month of staring into the abyss, I finally handed the tools to Thenamir, who promptly fixed the barrow in about 15 minutes. We are all in his debt, and all praise should be directed his way.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:29 PM   #33
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I saw the whiteness and deprecation and thought

'Oh no! Is this it? Is it all suddenly gone?'



Then checked back later and Thenamir's fixed everything

For he's a jolly good fellow,
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:43 PM   #34
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Long live Thenamir! Praise him with great praise!

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Long li- er, death to the 'Downs and all who had their hands in saving it!
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Can everyone now see each other's avvies? I can see most, but some are still gone... And the smiley shows up as a box too.
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:05 AM   #38
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I can see pretty much everything.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:34 AM   #39
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Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Thenamir has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!
It was my pleasure and privilege to work for such a worthy cause...how could anyone let such jolly good fellowship die such an untimely death? No, wait, we're all dead here already...ummm...to resurrect such a wonderful...no, 'resurrect' means to bring back to life...ah heck, it's working again, and now we can all rest in peace. Glad I could help!
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:43 AM   #40
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Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
Best deathday present ever after a couple of anxious days otherwise offline watching grids on my Kindle.... nine years dead is not long enough Heartfelt thanks to all concerned in restoring the barrow... now even contra-ing off my years dead against the years alive makes me a bit old for this but I'll act my shoesize not my age.

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ee.....


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