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Old 06-26-2011, 01:30 AM   #6881
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Doesn't seem that has been discounted...

So is it a place?
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Old 06-26-2011, 02:29 AM   #6882
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I was thinking that places were people were living would be created...buildings and such, and of course even the natural landscapes seem to have been messed with, such as mountains being raised and such....
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:12 AM   #6883
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Sentient - in a way/you could say so
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Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.
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So confused...forests could be considered alive because of all the living things in it, but the only things I would think of fitting that would be places...
Well, not only places. The forest is alive because it consists of living things, right? So what else could?
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:20 AM   #6884
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The desire of some elves for a realm/land
of their own independent of the Valar?
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:38 AM   #6885
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Living thing - not really
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Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.
Connected to Elves - yes, very!!
Present during the first age - yes
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Straight Road - no, it's much more "alive"
Present in both Valinor and ME? - After and before certain points in history, yes.

Place - no, it's not
The desire of some elves for a realm/land of their own independent of the Valar? - no.

THIS IS NOT A CRAZY CONCEPT.

It works just like a forest does. You can touch/see/feel individual trees. They are there. But "forest" is a made-up word (almost a concept!) that is used to group all the trees that stand in a bunch. Now there could be other made up words grouping other things, can't there?
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:09 AM   #6886
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Ah the Noldoras a kindred/race?
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:28 AM   #6887
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A kindred/race - BRILLIANT!!! It is one.
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There's where I'm getting confused...I wouldn't consider those natural or alive.

Did they finish the journey to Valinor?
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:18 AM   #6889
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:27 AM   #6890
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Well, it's a race of people, and they are as natural as any animal... And "alive" just like a forest could be.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:30 AM   #6891
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Well, I suppose its all a matter of opinion...I would consider elves (as a group) alive but divisions within them, such as Noldor, Vanyar, Moriquendi, ect artificial concepts, created by the elves, much the same as say brands of electronics....

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Old 06-28-2011, 03:06 PM   #6893
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LBrooke got it! (Sorry, Mith...)

I'm sorry if I was confusing. I guess the divisions between Elves are artificial, but the Elves aren't....

Well your turn anyways!
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:14 PM   #6894
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Sorry Mith...

I'm ready now.

It wasn't too confusing...I just have a tendency to over think, I suppose. And I'm worried, so I'm not thinking too clearly...Amrod and Amras kittens aren't doing too well.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:37 PM   #6895
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It wasn't too confusing...I just have a tendency to over think, I suppose. And I'm worried, so I'm not thinking too clearly...Amrod and Amras kittens aren't doing too well.
I overthink as well... I hope Amrod and Amras will get better...

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Old 06-28-2011, 03:53 PM   #6896
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Old 06-28-2011, 04:42 PM   #6898
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LBrooke got it! (Sorry, Mith...)

I'm sorry if I was confusing. I guess the divisions between Elves are artificial, but the Elves aren't....

Well your turn anyways!
I nearly said High Elves but I didn't think of them as a race - not all Teleri are high elves..anyway I have enough on my plated atm,
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Finally! It's not been letting me post or load the site all the way, the entire day...

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Palantir? - No, but on the right track as far as makers go....

Thanks...I'm just glad I got some pictures of them while they were still healthy. According to the vet, they had some hereditary disease that kept them from digesting food...
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Weapon has already been asked, sorry....

And thank you about the kittens...you think I'd be used to it by now, as we live out in the country, and we get all kinds of stray/dropped off pregnant cats, whose kittens end up dying because the mother was sick...at least this year, we've only lost 3, last summer we lost a dozen because some wild animal got into the barn where the strays were and attacked them...that was horrible.
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