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Old 09-13-2019, 04:05 AM   #8121
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The thing that *wears* the glove is purple? Then what is the thing?
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Old 09-13-2019, 04:38 AM   #8122
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The thing that *wears* the glove is purple? Then what is the thing?
... Thanos. The main villain of the highest-grossing film of all time, and the most publicized films of both of the last two years. It's not really an obscure bit of pop-culture trivia.

Which is only one letter off from Thalos, which is a river. Hence, 'misheard'.

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DIMBAR - A dull pub between the rivers.
OSSIRIAND - I say: Oh sir! I hand this damp place (to you).
REGION - An area, with trees.
LINDON - A little later, the shortened line of Italian nobles stands on the shore.
A? -- By a slightly longer name, would still smell as sweet, and probably of holly.
THALOS - Big, purple, fancy glove - no, sorry, I misread, it's just a river.
HOBBITON - A cry of greeting over most of a thousand kilos of rabbits, just outside the door.
THOUSAND CAVES - You send, formally and pretty much, Latin cautions underground.
O? -- A division without us? Normally after a short monster where the capital stands.
LHUN - Attila in bad French runs towards a haven.
OLD FOREST - I am aged, I am off to bed, I am just west of here.
RATHLORIEL - In anger and the voice of the laws of Hell, name me a second time after the battle.
I? -- Hell, Mike reversed into a pit and found the leader a step in.
ESTOLAD - He stole ads? You'd never hear it once in the camp.
NELDORETH - A scrambled article, a stick, and a singular lens got turned around in the woods.


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Old 09-13-2019, 05:01 AM   #8123
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... Thanos. The main villain of the highest-grossing film of all time, and the most publicized films of both of the last two years. It's not really an obscure bit of pop-culture trivia.
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It is to me. I'm old and live in a barn.

Could I be MORIA with the red letter a step in from the end? Not hopeful, as I think you said second letter, not second letter from either extremity.
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Old 09-13-2019, 05:14 AM   #8124
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Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
Meant nothing to me either but then I am older still, I think and live in the 1950s...
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Old 09-13-2019, 05:52 AM   #8125
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It is to me. I'm old and live in a barn.
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Meant nothing to me either but then I am older still, I think and live in the 1950s...
Snort. Well, Tolkien forums always were a refuge from the passage of time...

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Could I be MORIA with the red letter a step in from the end? Not hopeful, as I think you said second letter, not second letter from either extremity.
It isn't (I did consider it), but you're right that 'a step in' indicates that the second letter is I.

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Old 09-13-2019, 06:16 AM   #8126
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Trouble is, the 'hell' words don't work. Udun, Angband, Utumno ... maybe it's PIT of something. Or a curse word? DAM???

Big damns to Mike, BTW. K's not good in Tolkien words. Maybe it's a dwarvish place?

(I am just a few months older than Mith, I remember. But to be fair, I live in the 1970's, albeit with excursions into Victoria's reign and the Dark Ages. The first series of Blackadder was my favourite).
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:26 AM   #8127
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MIRRORMERE? Mirror for the reverse part ... could a mere sort of be a pit?

(I am even less confident than I sound).
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:40 AM   #8128
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Trouble is, the 'hell' words don't work. Udun, Angband, Utumno ... maybe it's PIT of something. Or a curse word? DAM???

Big damns to Mike, BTW. K's not good in Tolkien words. Maybe it's a dwarvish place?
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MIRRORMERE? Mirror for the reverse part ... could a mere sort of be a pit?

(I am even less confident than I sound).
There should probably be a 'sounds like' somewhere in that clue, to be honest; it just didn't fit.

Hell, Mike did what?

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Old 09-17-2019, 04:46 AM   #8129
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It's been a bit, so have some hints:

A: the 'Rosie' guess followed pretty much the correct logic. The question states that by a longer name, this place would [be a rose]. 'Holly' indicates what the location would probably smell of, rather than anything about its name.

O: The first part is a cryptic clue. 'Normally after a short monster' indicates that this is actually the second half of a place name, the first half being cryptically clued by 'a short monster'. And the 'capital' bit means... well, exactly what it says: this is where the capital stands.

I: As Pervinca guessed, I is the second letter. There are two words to the answer, and 'Hell, Mike reversed into a pit' is the cryptic clue. The straight clue is that the (a) leader can be found there.

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Old 09-17-2019, 06:34 AM   #8130
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The only long word for a kind of rose I know is Eglantine. Is there a place sufficiently similar?

Oh, just remembered. It starts with A.
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:28 AM   #8131
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The only long word for a kind of rose I know is Eglantine. Is there a place sufficiently similar?

Oh, just remembered. It starts with A.
By a longer name, this place would be a rose.

You're overthinking it.

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Old 09-17-2019, 08:25 AM   #8132
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:32 AM   #8133
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Aros!
Aros! Which is the river on the south edge of Region, which is a forest of holly trees (ouch).

DIMBAR - A dull pub between the rivers.
OSSIRIAND - I say: Oh sir! I hand this damp place (to you).
REGION - An area, with trees.
LINDON - A little later, the shortened line of Italian nobles stands on the shore.
AROS - By a slightly longer name, would still smell as sweet, and probably of holly.
THALOS - Big, purple, fancy glove - no, sorry, I misread, it's just a river.
HOBBITON - A cry of greeting over most of a thousand kilos of rabbits, just outside the door.
THOUSAND CAVES - You send, formally and pretty much, Latin cautions underground.
O? -- A division without us? Normally after a short monster where the capital stands.
LHUN - Attila in bad French runs towards a haven.
OLD FOREST - I am aged, I am off to bed, I am just west of here.
RATHLORIEL - In anger and the voice of the laws of Hell, name me a second time after the battle.
I? -- Hell, Mike reversed into a pit and found the leader a step in.
ESTOLAD - He stole ads? You'd never hear it once in the camp.
NELDORETH - A scrambled article, a stick, and a singular lens got turned around in the woods.


Two to go.

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Old Yesterday, 04:11 AM   #8134
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O? -- A division without us? Normally after a short monster where the capital stands.

OST-IN-EDHIL is a capital.

I can't find the elements required in it, though.
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O? -- A division without us? Normally after a short monster where the capital stands.

OST-IN-EDHIL is a capital.

I can't find the elements required in it, though.
Nope. This is a location in Beleriand, and is not a capital itself, but is a named (two word) location where the capital is located. So Túna rather than Tirion (but not Túna).

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Amon Obel does come to mind, as a hill where Halad capital lies.
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Amon Obel does come to mind, as a hill where Halad capital lies.
OBEL it is. It follows after Amon(ster), and is... well, I guess the fact that I didn't know a division symbol is properly called an 'obelus' should have hinted that it would be a tricky clue?

DIMBAR - A dull pub between the rivers.
OSSIRIAND - I say: Oh sir! I hand this damp place (to you).
REGION - An area, with trees.
LINDON - A little later, the shortened line of Italian nobles stands on the shore.
AROS - By a slightly longer name, would still smell as sweet, and probably of holly.
THALOS - Big, purple, fancy glove - no, sorry, I misread, it's just a river.
HOBBITON - A cry of greeting over most of a thousand kilos of rabbits, just outside the door.
THOUSAND CAVES - You send, formally and pretty much, Latin cautions underground.
OBEL - A division without us? Normally after a short monster where the capital stands.
LHUN - Attila in bad French runs towards a haven.
OLD FOREST - I am aged, I am off to bed, I am just west of here.
RATHLORIEL - In anger and the voice of the laws of Hell, name me a second time after the battle.
I? -- Hell, Mike reversed into a pit and found the leader a step in.
ESTOLAD - He stole ads? You'd never hear it once in the camp.
NELDORETH - A scrambled article, a stick, and a singular lens got turned around in the woods.


One I to go. I is the second letter, and the location is in the Shire.

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Old Yesterday, 06:37 AM   #8138
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Got it. MICHEL DELVING.

MIC + HEL + (a delving is a pit).

I was stuck because I was trying to reverse MIC itself.
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Got it. MICHEL DELVING.

MIC + HEL + (a delving ia a pit).

I was stuck because I was trying to reverse MIC itself).
That's the one; it's Hell-Mike reversed, rather than Hell, Mike reversed. (Also I have a nagging suspicion that first word is pronounced 'Mickle', but whatever.

DIMBAR - A dull pub between the rivers.
OSSIRIAND - I say: Oh sir! I hand this damp place (to you).
REGION - An area, with trees.
LINDON - A little later, the shortened line of Italian nobles stands on the shore.
AROS - By a slightly longer name, would still smell as sweet, and probably of holly.
THALOS - Big, purple, fancy glove - no, sorry, I misread, it's just a river.
HOBBITON - A cry of greeting over most of a thousand kilos of rabbits, just outside the door.
THOUSAND CAVES - You send, formally and pretty much, Latin cautions underground.
OBEL - A division without us? Normally after a short monster where the capital stands.
LHUN - Attila in bad French runs towards a haven.
OLD FOREST - I am aged, I am off to bed, I am just west of here.
RATHLORIEL - In anger and the voice of the laws of Hell, name me a second time after the battle.
MICHEL DELVING - Hell, Mike reversed into a pit and found the leader a step in.
ESTOLAD - He stole ads? You'd never hear it once in the camp.
NELDORETH - A scrambled article, a stick, and a singular lens got turned around in the woods.


Which looks something like this:



I... hadn't realised quite how far from Lorien the markers stop.

Over to you, Pervinca.

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What a great theme for a password! (Unfortunately, my Middle-earth geography is no better than my geography of the world as it now is).

Hope you all like this one:

1. The French garlic is noted – and in the confusion she appears, somewhere where raw pottery is suspended?
2. Revolutionary, in his turmoil, loses Vik for her!
3. Bluster loses its sedentary attitude, and urgency begins. See him.
4. A fondness for babycham, French tea, shellfish and bloomers is evident in him!
5. Gloin – barmy? Or is it relative? Either way, there’ll be trouble before she appears!
6. Will he be there ages?
7. Avarice of an armed force? Mix it for him. He’s a blogger – with a couple of differences.
8. Wet place twists limb back for him.
9. An evident gourmand. And an endless Surrey town becomes sibilant for the blissful fellow!
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