Who thinks Celeborn should have had a bigger role? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

09-12-2002, 05:03 PM

In the movie, Celeborn dissapointingly had only one line in the movie. Everybody, please don't think I'm nitpicking, but really! In the book, Celeborn was more than just a guy who happened to be married to Galadriel.

Frodo Baggins · 09-12-2002, 05:11 PM

A lot of the lines Galadriel said in the movie were actually Celeborn's words in the book. Let's hope he gets a bigger part in TTT.

Morai · 09-12-2002, 05:18 PM

Yeah, I think Celeborn should have had more lines. As I remember, Galadriel was kind, Celeborn was more serious.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 09-16-2002, 10:54 AM

I agree. Celeborn was an important Elf who happened to be married to the most important Elf. In no way would giving Celeborn some more lines have hurted Galadriel's importance.

Tirned Tinnu · 09-16-2002, 10:58 AM

As I recall, Celeborn was rather stern with Gimli. It gave Galadriel an opportunity to speak of Gimli's people. It also explained the elf-dwarf hatred that was going on. I do hope they include more of it. That was a splendid dialog.[ September 16, 2002: Message edited by: Tirned Tinnu ]

DaughterofVana · 09-17-2002, 06:42 PM

I was disappointed in the portrayal of both Celeborn and Galadriel, actually. It seemed like they were kind of... stoic. I remember Sam remarking of the elven queen that she could seem at times "like a hobbit lass with daisies in her hair". I took that to mean that elves can seem both old and young at the same time--a lot of range in the voice, I guess. In all fairness, Cate DID portray that pretty well, but I guess too much emphasis was made on having her seem so formidible and scary for my liking. (I also didn't like the bit about Nenya being left out, but that's another topic, I guess.) As for Celeborn--poor guy. He really got jipped in the movie. He never had a chance to "seem" like anything. Maybe in the Ext. edition DVD he'll speak a little more, and maybe get to develop his character a little more fully. For being the King of the Elves and having a substantial role in the books, he kind of came off like an extra. Well, that's my two cents. Feel free to contridict me!-'Vana[ September 17, 2002: Message edited by: DaughterofVana ]

InklingElf · 09-18-2002, 11:55 AM

...I strongly agree on this topic!-Celeborn was an elf-king for goodness sakes!-I liked Celeborn more in the book...He was more "kingly" then...-Now on Galadriel...She would've me been more gentle on the opening to Lothlorien...-like in the book

Marileangorifurnimaluim · 09-18-2002, 12:38 PM

You'll have your wish. The extended DVD is expected to have mention of Galadriel's ring. Good. In defiance of the title of this thread (do please forgive me) I don't think Celeborn needed to have a larger role. Far more interesting things were left out: such as the company being blindfolded, and the rope bridge over the river.-Maril

09-18-2002, 06:04 PM

I suppose he should. But in the movie, he looks horrible! He looks too sissy in those flowy robes. And he has a serious speech impediment! Listen carefully next time you watch the movie!Namarie!

TolkienGurl · 09-21-2002, 12:59 PM

I know Celeborn is an Elven king and all, but was he really that important to the plot of the movie? If he had been given a bigger part, those who have only had the movie as an experience with LOTR would probably be confused or frustrated with another name and person to figure out. I would rather more important scenes had been in the movie than Celeborn talking. Anyway, I didn't mean to be abrupt or rude or anything.

Anastasia · 09-22-2002, 02:12 PM

But i thought on the wave byebye scene you could see nenya? or is that just me?

09-12-2002, 05:03 PM	#1
nevfeniel Guest Posts: n/a	Who thinks Celeborn should have had a bigger role? In the movie, Celeborn dissapointingly had only one line in the movie.<BR>Everybody, please don't think I'm nitpicking, but really! In the book, Celeborn was more than just a guy who happened to be married to Galadriel.

09-12-2002, 05:11 PM	#2
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	A lot of the lines Galadriel said in the movie were actually Celeborn's words in the book. Let's hope he gets a bigger part in TTT. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

09-12-2002, 05:18 PM	#3
Morai Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Where young people go to retire Posts: 747	Yeah, I think Celeborn should have had more lines. As I remember, Galadriel was kind, Celeborn was more serious. __________________ "So why the safe distance, this curious look? Why tear out single pages when you can throw away the book? Why pluck one string when you can strum the guitar? MeWithoutYou http://fortyfifthparadox.com

09-16-2002, 10:54 AM	#4
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,992	I agree. Celeborn was an important Elf who happened to be married to the most important Elf. In no way would giving Celeborn some more lines have hurted Galadriel's importance. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

09-16-2002, 10:58 AM	#5
Tirned Tinnu Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Patchogue NY Posts: 158	As I recall, Celeborn was rather stern with Gimli. It gave Galadriel an opportunity to speak of Gimli's people. It also explained the elf-dwarf hatred that was going on. I do hope they include more of it. That was a splendid dialog.<p>[ September 16, 2002: Message edited by: Tirned Tinnu ] __________________ 'Perilous indeed,' said Aragorn, 'fair and perilous; but only evil need fear it, or those who bring some evil with them. Follow me!'

09-17-2002, 06:42 PM	#6
DaughterofVana Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: twirling contentedly in a flower-filled field Posts: 136	I was disappointed in the portrayal of both Celeborn and Galadriel, actually. It seemed like they were kind of... stoic. I remember Sam remarking of the elven queen that she could seem at times "like a hobbit lass with daisies in her hair". I took that to mean that elves can seem both old and young at the same time--a lot of range in the voice, I guess. In all fairness, Cate DID portray that pretty well, but I guess too much emphasis was made on having her seem so formidible and scary for my liking. (I also didn't like the bit about Nenya being left out, but that's another topic, I guess.) As for Celeborn--poor guy. He really got jipped in the movie. He never had a chance to "seem" like anything. Maybe in the Ext. edition DVD he'll speak a little more, and maybe get to develop his character a little more fully. For being the King of the Elves and having a substantial role in the books, he kind of came off like an extra. <P>Well, that's my two cents. Feel free to contridict me!<P>-'Vana<p>[ September 17, 2002: Message edited by: DaughterofVana ] __________________ "There is a kind of happiness and wonder that makes you serious. It is too good to waste on jokes." Hi! Did you miss me?

09-18-2002, 11:55 AM	#7
InklingElf Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 421	...I strongly agree on this topic!-Celeborn was an elf-king for goodness sakes!-I liked Celeborn more in the book...He was more "kingly" then...<P>-Now on Galadriel...She would've me been more gentle on the opening to Lothlorien...-like in the book

09-18-2002, 12:38 PM	#8
Marileangorifurnimaluim Eerie Forest Spectre Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Buried in scrolls of fanfiction Posts: 798	You'll have your wish. The extended DVD is expected to have mention of Galadriel's ring. Good. <P>In defiance of the title of this thread (do please forgive me) I don't think Celeborn needed to have a larger role. Far more interesting things were left out: such as the company being blindfolded, and the rope bridge over the river.<P>-Maril __________________ Deserves death! I daresay he does... And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them?

09-18-2002, 06:04 PM	#9
Kueronez Guest Posts: n/a	I suppose he should. But in the movie, he looks horrible! He looks too sissy in those flowy robes. And he has a serious speech impediment! Listen carefully next time you watch the movie!<P>Namarie!

09-21-2002, 12:59 PM	#10
TolkienGurl Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 637	I know Celeborn is an Elven king and all, but was he really that important to the plot of the movie? If he had been given a bigger part, those who have only had the movie as an experience with LOTR would probably be confused or frustrated with another name and person to figure out. I would rather more important scenes had been in the movie than Celeborn talking. Anyway, I didn't mean to be abrupt or rude or anything. __________________ Hopes fail. An end comes. We have only a little time to wait now. We are lost in ruin and downfall and there is no escape. -Frodo My Livejournal

09-22-2002, 02:12 PM	#11
Anastasia Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: London Posts: 91	But i thought on the wave byebye scene you could see nenya? or is that just me? __________________ Aw, you've done grand, laddie! Now you know what you have to do: Burn the house down. Burn 'em all! ~The Leprechaun from The Simpsons.

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