Geography Grilling - Page 11 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

NightKnight · 11-21-2003, 10:14 AM

What was the name among the rohirrim for Lothlorien?

Telchar · 11-21-2003, 05:26 PM

Dwimordene

NightKnight · 11-22-2003, 04:17 PM

That's right, please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Telchar · 11-22-2003, 04:30 PM

Name the village of the Shire that was furtherst to the south and the one furtherst to the north!

Lindolirian · 11-22-2003, 09:03 PM

The southern-most village of the Shire is Sackville and the nothern-most is Greenfields.

Telchar · 11-23-2003, 11:51 AM

Correct [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 11-25-2003, 05:36 PM

Describe the location of Ravenhill.

Arestevana · 11-25-2003, 08:19 PM

Ravenhill is at the southwest corner of the lonley mountain, about five hours march from the Front Gate. From the gate a road goes along the left edge of the stream, then to a bridge and steep stairs, from which a path leads up to the hill and the watch post on top. Good enough? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 11-25-2003, 08:29 PM

That's it. Nice work!

Arestevana · 11-26-2003, 06:01 PM

Thank you Lindolirian.

Next Question...
Describe the (useable) approach to Henneth Anun, and name the only other exit of the refuge there.

Lindolirian · 12-04-2003, 06:16 PM

There is a stream that runs from Ephel Duath to Anduin and at one point, it drops in a waterfall. There used to be another inlet of water that went underground and spilled out a cave that opened halfway down the cliff, but the Gondorians sealed this off, thus forcing all of the water to go over the falls on top. They had cut an entrance into the cave from the ground above the cliff. These stairs led into the hollow area that the original falls came out of. The only other exit was to dive out of the opening, thought the falls and into the basin far below.

Arestevana · 12-05-2003, 03:42 PM

Perfect! Please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 12-08-2003, 03:07 PM

Measure the distance in miles from Halifirien to Eilenach. Multiply that number by two. This new number of miles will be known as n. Travel n miles south by southwest from the peak of Cloudyhead. Name the previous owner of this place.

Telchar · 12-08-2003, 05:26 PM

My guess is the the place your're looking for is Angrenost or Isengard - Previous owner would be either The Kings of Gondor or Beren who surrendered the keys to Saruman or Saruman himself according to which point in time you're asking the question.

Lindolirian · 12-08-2003, 09:02 PM

Ah, so my hastily measured distances were understood. Right on, Telchar [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Telchar · 12-09-2003, 11:20 AM

Take the distance, in a direct line, from 'The Last Bridge' to Isengard. Then take that distance from Minas Tirith and go West by North West - An event took place here... four days after that event something happend to Frodo - What?

Lindolirian · 12-09-2003, 03:07 PM

The event was the Battle of the Hornburg at Helm's Deep and four days later, Frodo was taken by Faramir to Henneth Annûn.

Telchar · 12-09-2003, 04:57 PM

Very good - go on.

Lindolirian · 12-09-2003, 07:01 PM

Trace the travels of the One Ring from creation to destruction.

By the way, don't worry about getting too in depth during the Journey with Frodo. I think thats just about a given. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 8:08 PM December 09, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Telchar · 12-09-2003, 07:34 PM

Created in Sammath Naur c. SA1600 -> We must assume Sauron wore it at all times from that time untill he lost it. That means that it was with him at his campain against Eriador, later he brought it to Numenor, and we do not need to bother with how a spirit carries it with him back to Mordor [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img], where he wore it in the Battle of the Last Alliance, where it was cut from his finger by Isildur.

Isildur brought it first to Minas Anor where he instructed his nephew Meneldil, and wrote a scroll conserning the One Ring. One year later on his way to Rivendell and later Arnor, Isildur, with his company and The Ring was ambushed near the Gladden Fields by orcs from the Misty Mountains. Isildur trying to escape swam the Anduin, The Ring slipped from his finger and was lost in the river.

C 2500 years later The One Ring was found by Deagol, who was murdered by his cousin Smeagol, who stole The Ring. Smeagol, untill he was shunned lived in a small village of Stores, somewath north of The Gladden. Being shunned Smeagol hid himself under the Misty Mountains where he stayed untill he met Bilbo in TA 2941.

Bilbo, by chance, found The Ring, brought it with him on his journey through Mirkwood to Erebor - and the same way back, over the mountains, to Rivendell and then to the Shire, where The Ring stayed for the next 67 years till Frodo set out.

The Ring, on it's final journey went this way: Hobbiton -> Buckland -> The Old Forrest -> The house of Tom Bombadil -> The Barrow Downs -> The Pranching Pony in Bree -> Around Chetwood -> through the Midgewater Marshes -> Amon Sul -> Rivendell -> Hollin -> Moria -> Lorien -> Parth Galen -> Emyn Muil -> The Dead Marshes -> Within sight of the Morannon -> Ithillien -> Henneth Annûn -> The Cross Roads -> Torech Ungol -> Tower of Cirith Ungol -> Morgai -> Carach Angren -> Mount Doom -> Sammath Naur - The END...

Phewwww.... Sorry about the hastyness in typing...

Lindolirian · 12-10-2003, 09:06 PM

Awesome.

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Telchar · 12-11-2003, 01:30 AM

Give another name for "The Far Downs"

Lindolirian · 12-11-2003, 02:51 PM

The Fox Downs

Telchar · 12-11-2003, 04:04 PM

correct... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 12-11-2003, 04:47 PM

In between what mountain ranges was the Athraid Angren?

Telchar · 12-11-2003, 07:20 PM

Between White and Mist...

Lindolirian · 12-11-2003, 07:56 PM

Right on...

Telchar · 12-12-2003, 01:40 AM

What was th e name of the land between the River Angren and River Gwathlo?

Lindolirian · 12-12-2003, 08:55 PM

The Enedwaith, which includes Dunland.

Telchar · 12-13-2003, 07:38 PM

Enedwaith would have been enough for me [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 12-18-2003, 05:38 PM

HOW FAR IS IT FROM THE TOWER OF CIRITH UNGOL TO ORODRUIN???

A little fun for the movie makers... Did anybody else notice that when Frodo and Sam first saw it that it looked like it was about a mile maybe mile and a half away?

Telchar · 12-21-2003, 07:13 AM

Quote:

‘I parted with them in the morning two days ago,’ said Faramir. ‘It is fifteen leagues thence to the vale of the Morgulduin, if they went straight south; and then they would be still five leagues westward of the accursed Tower.

Using this as reference I would say that the distance was roughly 15-18 leagues...
On maps the distance looks more or less the same.

Lindolirian · 12-21-2003, 08:17 PM

Of course... Unfortunately, PJ woulda gotten that one wrong. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Telchar · 12-22-2003, 01:10 AM

Name as many places that was besieged - short sieges counts too - I think you'll need more than 8 to get it [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

NightKnight · 12-22-2003, 08:42 AM

Hornburg, Angband, Minas Tirith, Barad-Dur, Brithombar, Eglarest, Gondolin, Amon Sul...that's eight. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Telchar · 12-22-2003, 07:48 PM

8 is good ;o) go on...

NightKnight · 12-23-2003, 04:57 AM

Name two places where Ithildin was used.

Mariska Greenleaf · 12-23-2003, 05:46 AM

On the doors of Durin, and on Thrors' Map, althought that last one isn't exactly a "place"... Maybe you're looking for something else?

NightKnight · 12-23-2003, 08:31 AM

That was actually what I was looking for, so please go on. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Mariska Greenleaf · 12-23-2003, 08:41 AM

allright then...

What marked the most southern point of Gondor?

11-21-2003, 10:14 AM	#401
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,696	What was the name among the rohirrim for Lothlorien? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

11-21-2003, 05:26 PM	#402
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Dwimordene __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-22-2003, 04:17 PM	#403
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,696	That's right, please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

11-22-2003, 04:30 PM	#404
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Name the village of the Shire that was furtherst to the south and the one furtherst to the north! __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-22-2003, 09:03 PM	#405
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	The southern-most village of the Shire is Sackville and the nothern-most is Greenfields. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-23-2003, 11:51 AM	#406
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Correct [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-25-2003, 05:36 PM	#407
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Describe the location of Ravenhill. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-25-2003, 08:19 PM	#408
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	Ravenhill is at the southwest corner of the lonley mountain, about five hours march from the Front Gate. From the gate a road goes along the left edge of the stream, then to a bridge and steep stairs, from which a path leads up to the hill and the watch post on top. Good enough? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

11-25-2003, 08:29 PM	#409
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	That's it. Nice work! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-26-2003, 06:01 PM	#410
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	Thank you Lindolirian. Next Question... Describe the (useable) approach to Henneth Anun, and name the only other exit of the refuge there.

12-04-2003, 06:16 PM	#411
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	There is a stream that runs from Ephel Duath to Anduin and at one point, it drops in a waterfall. There used to be another inlet of water that went underground and spilled out a cave that opened halfway down the cliff, but the Gondorians sealed this off, thus forcing all of the water to go over the falls on top. They had cut an entrance into the cave from the ground above the cliff. These stairs led into the hollow area that the original falls came out of. The only other exit was to dive out of the opening, thought the falls and into the basin far below. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-05-2003, 03:42 PM	#412
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	Perfect! Please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

12-08-2003, 03:07 PM	#413
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Measure the distance in miles from Halifirien to Eilenach. Multiply that number by two. This new number of miles will be known as n. Travel n miles south by southwest from the peak of Cloudyhead. Name the previous owner of this place. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-08-2003, 05:26 PM	#414
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	My guess is the the place your're looking for is Angrenost or Isengard - Previous owner would be either The Kings of Gondor or Beren who surrendered the keys to Saruman or Saruman himself according to which point in time you're asking the question. __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-08-2003, 09:02 PM	#415
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Ah, so my hastily measured distances were understood. Right on, Telchar [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-09-2003, 11:20 AM	#416
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Take the distance, in a direct line, from 'The Last Bridge' to Isengard. Then take that distance from Minas Tirith and go West by North West - An event took place here... four days after that event something happend to Frodo - What? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-09-2003, 03:07 PM	#417
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	The event was the Battle of the Hornburg at Helm's Deep and four days later, Frodo was taken by Faramir to Henneth Annûn. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-09-2003, 04:57 PM	#418
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Very good - go on. __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-09-2003, 07:01 PM	#419
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Trace the travels of the One Ring from creation to destruction. By the way, don't worry about getting too in depth during the Journey with Frodo. I think thats just about a given. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] <font size=1 color=339966>[ 8:08 PM December 09, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-09-2003, 07:34 PM	#420
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Created in Sammath Naur c. SA1600 -> We must assume Sauron wore it at all times from that time untill he lost it. That means that it was with him at his campain against Eriador, later he brought it to Numenor, and we do not need to bother with how a spirit carries it with him back to Mordor [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img], where he wore it in the Battle of the Last Alliance, where it was cut from his finger by Isildur. Isildur brought it first to Minas Anor where he instructed his nephew Meneldil, and wrote a scroll conserning the One Ring. One year later on his way to Rivendell and later Arnor, Isildur, with his company and The Ring was ambushed near the Gladden Fields by orcs from the Misty Mountains. Isildur trying to escape swam the Anduin, The Ring slipped from his finger and was lost in the river. C 2500 years later The One Ring was found by Deagol, who was murdered by his cousin Smeagol, who stole The Ring. Smeagol, untill he was shunned lived in a small village of Stores, somewath north of The Gladden. Being shunned Smeagol hid himself under the Misty Mountains where he stayed untill he met Bilbo in TA 2941. Bilbo, by chance, found The Ring, brought it with him on his journey through Mirkwood to Erebor - and the same way back, over the mountains, to Rivendell and then to the Shire, where The Ring stayed for the next 67 years till Frodo set out. The Ring, on it's final journey went this way: Hobbiton -> Buckland -> The Old Forrest -> The house of Tom Bombadil -> The Barrow Downs -> The Pranching Pony in Bree -> Around Chetwood -> through the Midgewater Marshes -> Amon Sul -> Rivendell -> Hollin -> Moria -> Lorien -> Parth Galen -> Emyn Muil -> The Dead Marshes -> Within sight of the Morannon -> Ithillien -> Henneth Annûn -> The Cross Roads -> Torech Ungol -> Tower of Cirith Ungol -> Morgai -> Carach Angren -> Mount Doom -> Sammath Naur - The END... Phewwww.... Sorry about the hastyness in typing... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-10-2003, 09:06 PM	#421
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Awesome. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-11-2003, 01:30 AM	#422
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Give another name for "The Far Downs" __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-11-2003, 02:51 PM	#423
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	The Fox Downs __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-11-2003, 04:04 PM	#424
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	correct... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-11-2003, 04:47 PM	#425
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	In between what mountain ranges was the Athraid Angren? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-11-2003, 07:20 PM	#426
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Between White and Mist... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-11-2003, 07:56 PM	#427
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Right on... __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-12-2003, 01:40 AM	#428
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	What was th e name of the land between the River Angren and River Gwathlo? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-12-2003, 08:55 PM	#429
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	The Enedwaith, which includes Dunland. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-13-2003, 07:38 PM	#430
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Enedwaith would have been enough for me [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-18-2003, 05:38 PM	#431
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	HOW FAR IS IT FROM THE TOWER OF CIRITH UNGOL TO ORODRUIN??? A little fun for the movie makers... Did anybody else notice that when Frodo and Sam first saw it that it looked like it was about a mile maybe mile and a half away? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-21-2003, 08:17 PM	#433
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Of course... Unfortunately, PJ woulda gotten that one wrong. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-22-2003, 01:10 AM	#434
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Name as many places that was besieged - short sieges counts too - I think you'll need more than 8 to get it [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-22-2003, 08:42 AM	#435
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,696	Hornburg, Angband, Minas Tirith, Barad-Dur, Brithombar, Eglarest, Gondolin, Amon Sul...that's eight. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

12-22-2003, 07:48 PM	#436
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	8 is good ;o) go on... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.