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Old 07-08-2004, 09:09 PM   #41
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No, no...

It would make sense to have a light-coloured bunny, for if it should become lost it would stand out among the darkness of Mirkwood. elfwishes has made a point. And blonde rabbits do look good as an accessory on Legolas.
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Old 07-09-2004, 05:49 AM   #42
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Oh, a blonde hare - a rival for Legolas! Would he dare to compete with a bunny that which of the two has more silky and soft hair/fur...
According to Legolas' Diary (online edition, further info from CoE: diaries, secret) he has some obsession with being the prettiest. A purple hare wouldn't be so serious opponent.
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1420! Little Bunny Foo Foo

CHORUS
Legobunny Froodo, running through the forest
Scooping up the field mice and bopp'n 'em on the head

And the Goo--oo--ooood Fairy came a-tumbling down
And she said:

Legobunny Froodo, I don't wanna see you
Scooping up the field mice and bopp'n 'em on the head



I'll give you three more chances--
and then--
I'm gonna turn you into a Gollum.

CHORUS

...Two more chances...

CHORUS

...One more chance...

CHORUS...

I gave you three chances!
So now-----
I'm gonna turn you into a Gollum!

And the moral of the story is,
Hairy today,
Gollum tomorrow.
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oh, dear. you're all going quite overboard. indeed, Legolas did have a hare, but its color was quite unnoticeable, on account of its being extremely small. that does not mean that it had no color, however. i am inclined to believe that it was much like a chameleon, changing its color whenever it wanted to. but i think it preferred its color to be hot pink with lime green stripes.

*thinks to self* are we having too much fun with this?

*alter ego replies* of course not! no such thing as too much fun!

you're sure?

positive. it's so incredibly fun to take someone's seemingly innocent statement and twist it to your own whims.

oh.

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Old 07-09-2004, 08:25 AM   #45
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No, no, no. Frodo was Bilbo's hare.
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Quite, Saucepan.

Does anyone else find it surprising that Mirkwood seemed like such a hotbed of hare activity? I think that this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the intense and sometimes ferocious rivalry between Mirkwood and Rivendell. After all, Rivendell was the hare-capital of Middle-earth, under the power of Elrond's Ring Vilya, the Ring of Hare.

I feel that this discussion is surely drenched in Elven politics and the struggle for control between Elrond and Thranduil.
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Actually, I believe that Rohan became the "hare centre" of Middle-earth in the Third Age. The people of Rohan prized hares above all else. Hence their name "Rohirrim" from the Sindarin for "harey-people". Since most of their hares were blonde, they became known amongst the Dunlendings as "straw-hares".

The most prized hares in Rohan were the Marcheas, descendants of the March Hare of Orome the Hatter. It is said that, back in the mists of time, oft could Orome be seen at Middle-earth garden parties with his March Hare in tow.

Theoden's hare, Cottontail, was one of the Marcheas, but became known as Theodens' folly when it fell on him at the tea-party of Pelennor and crushed him under its weight.
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Crushed Theoden? My goodness, these hares must have been gigantic. Perhaps related to the giant hares of Nurn.

Nurn is a land steeped in fear, where giant hares roam the hills, free to devour anyone they find delectable.
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Yes, the Hares of Rohan were indeed of immense size. But not quite as large as the legendary Hares of Ar-Gnaw that lived around the Sea of Rabbit-Rhun. Boromir's horn was carved from the incisor of one such magnificent beast.
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Silmaril And the little Hares?

I here there are not just GIGANTIC hares but miniture ones also wandering about. There are about the size of your baby toe. They`ve been going unnoticed for centuries until someone accidentely stepped on one and realized what it was. Perhaps Legolas` hare was actually a miniture hare.
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Boots Hare-etical theories...

My goodness, this claim of mini-hares will have purists rubbing their eyes in disbelief. It has long been denied by many in high places (including Elrond) that such tiny hares are real. For the debate to be this heated, I doubt that Legolas' hare was a mini, because Elrond probably saw it.

Or did he? Perhaps Legolas kept his hare a secret from Elrond and the Council for his own fiendish purposes.
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I have heard of a hare that was bred by Morgoth to be the most deadly and fearsome creature in history. Sources say that the hare, a white-furred, red-eyed beast stuck fear into the hearts of good and evil alike, causing even Carcharoth to whimper as the hare passed.

It has been told that the hare survived the passing of Morgoth, and even of Sauron, hiding in caves of the North, a place called Caer Bannog.

History states that the unforunate animal met his demise by a handful of knights in roughly the fifth age, when they used a Holy Hand Grenade to destroy it.

And so passed the greatest foe the world has known.
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Interesting tale Saraphim, but if you'd care to make that claim ('greatest foe the world has known') on The Warg Thread I'm sure you'll be met with heated opposition.





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I here there are not just GIGANTIC hares but miniture ones also wandering about. There are about the size of your baby toe. They`ve been going unnoticed for centuries until someone accidentely stepped on one and realized what it was. Perhaps Legolas` hare was actually a miniture hare.
wasn't that my suggestion??
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It does still strike me as odd that Tolkien would grant Legolas a hare. I know he liked to alter his characters somewhat (Treebeard, etc.), but after painting the picture of Legolas to be someone prone to brutal acts against rabbits and hares, this alteration seems bizarre.

I refer, of course, to the early drafts of The Lord of the Rings in which Legolas appeared to take great delight from shooting the wild hares with his bow and arrows.
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[font=Arial][size=2]Then will they raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Middle Earth, saying, "Bless this, Eru, that with it thou mayst blow Morgoth's minions to tiny bits, in thy mercy."... And the people will rejoice and will feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals and rabbits... And so Eru said, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of the bunny, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." [/size][/font]
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Im am sorry elronds_daughter, I didnt see your suggestion about the miniture hares. Great minds do think alike.
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Then will they raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Middle Earth, saying, "Bless this, Eru, that with it thou mayst blow Morgoth's minions to tiny bits, in thy mercy."... And the people will rejoice and will feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals and rabbits... And so Eru said, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of the bunny, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
wow... that was WONDERFUL!!! just beautiful... thank you, Feanor. Monty Python fans, UNITE!
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I once had a drunken conversation with Michael Palin and one of the Python cameramen regarding Legolas, although Michael seemed convinced that Legolas had a pet weasel.

I tried (to no avail) to show him the error of his ways.
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A weasel? Where on earth did he get such a crazy idea? What is this world coming to? *Hits her self many times on the head with her copy of the Fellowship, yelling out " A weasel, UGH" *

No worries my mind is still in tact!
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I hope that my humble post inspired you Feanor of the Peredhil, in which I suggested that Legolas' hare and the guardian of Caer Bannog were related.
That movie never grows old; I watched it yet again today. wilwaren538, perhaps the fact that it was apparently a drunken conversation would explain why the idea was so far-fetched. You wouldn't happen to be chanting a certain something as you whack yourself on the head, would you? (Quietly chants to self, "Peis Iesu Domine, Dona eis requiem. *whack*")
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rats! the "banghead" smiley doesn't work on this site! who's for a petition to get new smileys!? but thank you, i'd never figured out the words those monks were saying... guess i haven't watched it enough.
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i'd never figured out the words those monks were saying... guess i haven't watched it enough.
Is that what that was, I got out my quenya wordlist trying to figure out what Nimrothiel was talking about.Thanks elronds_daughter.
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Oh, indeed, Nimrothiel. The first Python reference I saw on this site made me jump for joy. Literally. And my boyfriend asked me what was wrong and I showed him and he said "And you didn't say it?" Sooooo happy. You inspired me, and Saraphim's post gave me the opening. Not to mention I've got strep (no longer contagious, yay!) and had little else to do but hang out online all day.

Eomer: I also had heard the weasel rumor. Drunken conversations tend to be cyclic, do they not? You finish one topic, head to another, and then return to rehash the first. Well, we were discussing the hare (my companion, was tipsy, but not I, having eschewed alcohol some time ago) and he mentioned the hare being eaten by the weasel. Eaten, I tell you! But I told him, I did indeed, that if Legolas' hare was truly a descendant of the demonic bunny of Caer Bannog, than no mere weasel would stand a chance against him. He laughed, and I reminded him that, as between the two of us, I was the one sober, that it was my word we would be going with. He changed his opionon, and we have a new white haired (and hared ), red eyed, pointy teeth believing convert.

I must ask though... What do you suppose Legolas' hare ate? They didn't grow... coconuts... in Mirkwood? I'd always thought Mirkwood was a temperate zone, and coconuts are, of course, tropical. But they could always be carried... do you suppose crebain are big enough to carry coconuts? It is, after all, a simple matter of weight ratios.

Okay, okay, I'll stop now. I really do need to get a new hobby.

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That is a wonderful question. I didnt realize, though, that hares ate coconuts. But I do suppose they could be carried by crebain, as I always thought crebain were fairly large birds, they are probably all but capable of carrying some coconuts to are Mirkwood hares. I dont think there are carrots growing in Mirkwood, though for sure a crebain could carry carrots unless the carrots in ME are gigantic for those gigantic hares we talked about. Or is it only rabbits that eat carrots, I personally dont see the difference.
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They do now. They use their big pointy teeth to poke holes in the husk and thus reach the tender inside.

But are crebain migratory? If not, I guess it doesn't matter whether or not they could carry coconuts (which I don't think they could... can they even grip things?), because they would never have access to coconuts to carry. So unless the hares just... found... the coconuts...

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Legolas fed his hare scampi and wine. It was a much fawned-upon bunny.
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Very fawned upon indeed. I can only imagine what a drunken hare would be like. It probably be very amusing to see its lopsided drunken hop. hehe
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Perhaps they feasted upon lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals and rabbits...wait, that last one doesn't seem right. But then again, they did have nasty, sharp, pointy teeth.
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nimrothiel arent hares vegetarian? Unless it is a tree- sloth made out of letace.
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Old 07-15-2004, 08:55 AM   #73
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I agree it should be blonde. As someone said before he lives in Mirkwood and other Elves would probably be able to see each other better if they were blonde.
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perhaps, ninlaith you should read about are new topic. There is no need to discuss his hair anymore, I have recived all the information I need. We are now discussing legolas` hare not hair. You are welcome to join the conversation.

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Thank you very much indeed, Wilwarin, I was afraid I would have to get the thread back off-track myself!

Now, of Legolas' hare, we've discussed:

color (white, black, dark brown, purple, rainbow colored)

size (gigantic, such as the Trojan Rabbit, or small, such as the guardian of Caer Bannog, or even tiny, although that is disputed by Elrond)

diet (breakfast cereals, coconuts, tree slothes, etc...)

heritage (royal house of Hares versus the common hare)

job selection (birth right versus democracy)

But we have forgotten something absolutely crucial to the understanding of Legolas' hare. What was his disposition? As a diplomat, we must surmise that the hare (and I shall henceforth call him Elmerf [in honor of Elmafud and because of Legolas' sense of humor, thinking to name the hare "Elf" because of its pointy ears]) was thoughtful. Elmerf would be a very kind, gentle, and wellspoken hare, if indeed he was an ambassidor from Mirkwood. Or am I wrong? Perhaps Elmerf was slightly demonic and achieved his position through bullying and "taking care of" the oppositon.

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It was in Bombur's dream that there was a King with golden hair.... if Leggy's mommy was a brunnette he could get a 50% chance of blonde or brown hair.
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dear, dear. someone else replying on-topic... tsk, tsk. for those of you who don't already know this, the topic has changed. Wilwarin herself has verefied this. She started this thread, recall.
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ahh give me a break. I'm blonde myself I don't notice these things.
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It was a much fawned-upon bunny
Indeed, I had also heard the rumor of this mysterious fawn. Legolas' other pet. It's name was Bambuilas and is said to have stepped on Elmerf's tail on the odd occasion. I believe he may have been black.

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Bambuilas was a little jealous of are Elmerf was he. If Elmerf got scampi and wine, what excatly did Bambuilas eat? Leftovers from the table perhaps? Know was Bambuilas a gigantic or miniture hare?
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