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Old 01-21-2004, 10:21 AM   #161
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I haven't found the reference for this question, but I will venture a guess, Squatter - is it referring to the creation of languages?
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Old 01-22-2004, 05:42 PM   #162
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I'm afraid not, Esty. It's nice to see that this thread has stopped vegetating, though.
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Old 01-22-2004, 11:47 PM   #163
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...or does Tolkien mean his book, LotR or perhaps the Silmarillion?
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Old 01-23-2004, 07:46 AM   #164
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Cease this wild guesswork! He's not talking about his writing or his languages.

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Old 01-23-2004, 07:50 AM   #165
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Old 01-23-2004, 07:52 AM   #166
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I already did, two posts ago (22nd January).

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'The notion that motor-cars are more "alive" than, say, centaurs or dragons is curious,' he says at one point; 'that they are more "real" than, say, horses is pathetically absurd. How real, how startlingly alive, is a factory chimney compared with an elm-tree: poor obsolete thing, insubstantial dream of an escapist.'
Taken from "Tree and Leaf"(1964)
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:02 AM   #168
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More specifically from On Fairy-stories. The answer is, of course, an elm-tree; being a satirical reversal of claims of 'escapism'. Well remembered.
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Give the explanation Tolkien gives to why Hobbits are small in size.
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Well, one does need to have a habit of reading small print to find that answer! (...or the idea of looking through the very excellent index to Tolkien's Letters... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ) Here's what he says:
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They are made small (little more than half human stature, but dwindling as the years pass) partly to exhibit the pettiness of man, plain unimaginative parochial man... mostly to show up, in creatures of very small physical power, the amazing and unexpected heroism of ordinary men 'at a pinch'.
(PS - Mariska, I'm looking forward to a new 'minor works' question...)

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Old 02-03-2004, 04:43 AM   #171
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That's the correct answer of course.

ps: I'll post a new minor work question right away...
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Old 02-04-2004, 07:30 AM   #172
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Which Canadian collaborated with Tolkien on several of his scholarly works and which not so serious endeavour did they begin together?
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E.V. Gordon, his collaborator in compiling an edition of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Together they began the Viking Club for undergraduates, the main activities of which appear to have been drinking beer, reading sagas and singing comic songs.
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Old 02-07-2004, 03:39 PM   #174
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That's the right person, Squatter - go ahead with a new one!
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Old 02-07-2004, 04:48 PM   #175
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Who was 'Jo'?
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"Jo" was the first car Tolkien bought(in 1932), it was a Morris Cowley, and it was named "Jo" because the that were the first two letters of the license plate.
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You're absolutely right, Mariska. Let's have another one.
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What is T.C.B.S., what was it's vision, and to what did it lead?
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T.C.B.S. was the Tea Club and Barrovian Society (the latter name could apply to this forum! ); it was started to exchange opinions on literature and to do readings (I couldn't find a reference to a specific vision in the books I checked); and it led to a theater performance of Sheridan's The Rivals, in which JRRT played Mrs Malaprop!! Wouldn't that have been a sight?!
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Old 02-11-2004, 07:56 AM   #181
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Late in life Tolkien was swamped with fan mail while he wanted to finish the Silmarillion. Who became his part-time secretary and assistant and who gave that person the assignment?
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out of the top of my head - probably Carpenter and probably Auden?
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Old 02-12-2004, 07:23 AM   #183
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No and no, HI - try again! Carpenter was his biographer, but not secretary, and Auden was neither.
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hum...

I have a vague feeling I must know the answer, it just keeps haunting the cusps of my memory, but I can not get hold of it.

Neither one, you say?

Well, it must wait till I get anywhere near my bookshelf, than
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Here's a clue for this question - maybe that will help get the search for the answer started again! The person is a woman - since Tolkien didn't have many female acquaintances, that should make it easier.
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Tolkien's secretary

Esty,

You must mean Joy Hill. She dealt with Tolkien's fan mail, and I think she was assigned to the job by the folk at Allen & Unwin. Sometimes she came down in person to Bournemouth.

I remember her name for another reason. When Hill was putting Tolkien's library in order, she found the poem Bilbo's Last Song written in an exercise book. It had apparently been "lost". In gratitude, Tolkien presented the poem to her, with its copyright, on 3 September 1970. In 1974, after Tolkien's death, both Houghton Mifflin and Allen & Unwin printed up a poster with this poem that was printed over a picture of a river scene. These were copyrighted under Hill's name and are technically "first editions". I have one of these posters hanging in my house because I love the poem. I also have the jigsaw puzzle of this same scene that came out two years later in the U.S. (I know.....I know....I'm hopelessly "addicted".)

Sorry for that digression. Now let's hope I have the right person!
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That's the right answer, Child, and thanks for the additional information!! Lucky you, to have such a wonderful collectible! Do you know if that poem has been published recently enough to be found in bookstores somewhere?
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Yes, it's definitely available in bookstores. Or if you can't find it there, look on e-bay. It only costs $8-12 and the illustrations are quite nice, since they are done by Pauline Baynes.

Let's see now.....another question..... Here's one of mythic proportions.

Shopkeepers who dealt with the elderly Professor Tolkien sometimes received what surprise in their hand?
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haha, this is funny!
He surprised shopkeepers by displaying his extra set of false teeth amidst the handful of change he held out to them.
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Absolutely right, Mariska! The professor must have had a strain of hobbitish blood. I can not imagine an Elf or Man doing this....

Please continue with your question.
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Thanks.

Well, we do know that Tolkien was a very funny person, and didn't take himself too serious, so this is my next question:

He once participated in a swimming contest. What was so funny about that?
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Old 03-02-2004, 04:37 AM   #192
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Do you need a hint?


(Just gave one...)
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Old 03-03-2004, 02:27 AM   #193
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Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!Estelyn Telcontar has reached the Cracks of Doom and destroyed the Ring!
Did he swim with his hat on? (I've paged through the biography, trying unsuccessfully to find a reference, so this is only a guess. I'm assuming that was the clue...) Should that be the right answer, please do tell more about it!
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Old 03-03-2004, 03:06 AM   #194
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the was indeed the clue.
Tolkien once participated in a swimming contest while wearing a Panama hat and smoking his pipe. Imagine that!

I got this from Tolkien's biography by Professor Ralph C. Wood.

back to you Estelyn.
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Old 03-03-2004, 02:11 PM   #195
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This brief poem is admittedly not one of Tolkien's most brilliant works ; but it was his reaction to criticism on what?

Quote:
___ ____ __ ___ _____
is one of those things:
if you like you do:
if you don't, then you boo!
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:34 AM   #196
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I believe it's about the criticism on Lord of the Rings in general, or is it more specific?

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Old 03-04-2004, 08:49 AM   #197
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That's the right answer, Mariska - your turn to post a new question.
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Tolkien referred to someone as an "Olympian". Who was this person?
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:34 AM   #199
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Old 03-12-2004, 03:32 AM   #200
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Yes, please - I have been thinking about this, but have no idea where to start looking...
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