themes of LOTR - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Anorien · 07-11-2002, 10:01 PM

one thing i thought was very interesting were the many themes of LOTR. I had to do a really big paper on the books once, and it was fasinating all the points Tolkien was trying to get across in his work. Would you all like to tell some themes that you noticed?
One that was not so apparent was the theme of man to nature, and the realationships therein. You see how Tom Bombadil is so close to nature, he has power to affect it.

burrahobbit · 07-11-2002, 10:41 PM

Be nice.
Don't kill people.
Taters is good eating.
Fish is better eating.
The encroachment of man onto nature in undesirable.

Elendur · 07-11-2002, 10:44 PM

I wouldn't say 'Dont kill people' is a theme of LOTR. Killing was very necessary sometimes.

What about more broad themes? Freindship, Perseverence, Love? I guess these are in many books, but they were key to LOTR as well.

burrahobbit · 07-12-2002, 12:17 AM

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Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.

Don't kill people.

HerenIstarion · 07-12-2002, 04:10 AM

not simply be nice, be nice at all costs
in all the circumstances,

the same with keeping promises

Daniel Telcontar · 07-12-2002, 05:11 AM

as burra said, Mercy is important. And at the Scouring of the Shire, Frodo does not kill any of the ruffians. And he wishes to spare as many as possible.
Also when Sam thinks Frodo is dead, he takes the Ring to continue himself, although he does not wish to leave Frodo. He makes the conclusion that the mission is more important than his personal feelings, which I think is most courageous.

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 07-12-2002, 03:27 PM

Themes-

Little people with hairy feet can be as useful as big people with bald feet.

Friendship prevails.

Good prevails.

The progression of technology can be harmful to the enviroment.

Dwarves are cool.

Well, thats about all for now.

The Silver-shod Muse · 07-12-2002, 03:32 PM

You are not alone in the universe. Sometimes self-sacrifice is the only way to get done what has to be done.

Bêthberry · 07-12-2002, 08:05 PM

Community.

Bethberry

Shadow of Udûn · 07-12-2002, 08:30 PM

The ability of small people to change the world.

07-11-2002, 10:01 PM	#1
Anorien Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Old Navy of Rohan Posts: 138	themes of LOTR one thing i thought was very interesting were the many themes of LOTR. I had to do a really big paper on the books once, and it was fasinating all the points Tolkien was trying to get across in his work. Would you all like to tell some themes that you noticed? One that was not so apparent was the theme of man to nature, and the realationships therein. You see how Tom Bombadil is so close to nature, he has power to affect it. __________________ FRODO: all low and retarded Oh Mr. Frodo, do you have any more food? Here eat mine, I’m so fat. How about I carry the ring for you. It’s soooo pretty, I mean heavy! SAM: Why you little-! FRODO: You asked for it!

07-11-2002, 10:41 PM	#2
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	Be nice. Don't kill people. Taters is good eating. Fish is better eating. The encroachment of man onto nature in undesirable. __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

07-11-2002, 10:44 PM	#3
Elendur Wight Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Arnor Posts: 200	I wouldn't say 'Dont kill people' is a theme of LOTR. Killing was very necessary sometimes. What about more broad themes? Freindship, Perseverence, Love? I guess these are in many books, but they were key to LOTR as well. __________________ Son of Isildur.

07-12-2002, 04:10 AM	#5
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	not simply be nice, be nice at all costs in all the circumstances, the same with keeping promises __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

07-12-2002, 05:11 AM	#6
Daniel Telcontar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 713	as burra said, Mercy is important. And at the Scouring of the Shire, Frodo does not kill any of the ruffians. And he wishes to spare as many as possible. Also when Sam thinks Frodo is dead, he takes the Ring to continue himself, although he does not wish to leave Frodo. He makes the conclusion that the mission is more important than his personal feelings, which I think is most courageous. __________________ Two beer or not two beer, that is the question; by Shakesbeer

07-12-2002, 03:27 PM	#7
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	Themes- Little people with hairy feet can be as useful as big people with bald feet. Friendship prevails. Good prevails. The progression of technology can be harmful to the enviroment. Dwarves are cool. Well, thats about all for now. __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

07-12-2002, 03:32 PM	#8
The Silver-shod Muse Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The shoulder of a poet, TX Posts: 388	You are not alone in the universe. Sometimes self-sacrifice is the only way to get done what has to be done. __________________ "'You," he said, "tell her all. What good came to you? Do you rejoice that Maleldil became a man? Tell her of your joys, and of what profit you had when you made Maleldil and death acquainted.'" -Perelandra, by C.S. Lewis

07-12-2002, 08:05 PM	#9
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 5,977	Community. Bethberry __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

07-12-2002, 08:30 PM	#10
Shadow of Udûn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 32	The ability of small people to change the world. __________________ What it was could not be seen: it was like a great shadow...