How will PJ fit it all into ROTK? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Daisy Brambleburr · 04-13-2003, 04:41 AM

I was thinking today about how all of the events of tROTK, plus the end of TTT will fit into the last movie.As well as the Shelob battle they have to put in the hobbits and Aragorn and co. meeting at Isengard from TTT,the palantir as well as a phenonomal battle from ROTK. I have been worrying about how the Faramir/Eowyn romance will be portrayed.How do you think it will be done in the space of 3 and a half hours? Do you think anything will be missed out? And how will they top off the amazing battle of Helms Deep, seeing as the Battle of the Pelannor (sp) fields will be even bigger?I eagerly await your opinions! (and I'm sorry if this has already been asked!)

Meela · 04-13-2003, 04:45 AM

From what we've seen so far in Fotr and TTT i have no doubt they'll manage it and it will still be absolutely fantastic. I doubt they'll focus too much on Faramir and Eowyn, although there are some scenes in the Houses of Healing. I don't think Shelob will need too much time... so they should be okay, if they give about an hour, maybe a bit more to Pelennor and the surrounding events. I think it will work quite nicely, actually.

Mornie Alantie · 04-13-2003, 07:13 AM

If you look in the book, ROTK is actually the shortest, it has the Apendices that make it look big. Plus there will be no scouring of the Shire.Even if the battle took up 45 mins. Frodo and Sam would at most take up an hour, and that leaves another hours for every thing else. Now, the actual battle of Pelannor feilds will probably stretch for an hour, but it will have other things woven into it like Frodo and Sam, The paths of the dead, All these thing must be portrayed at the same time as we saw in TTT. I doubt we will see a Whole hour of solid battle, but many different things put together.

HCIsland · 04-13-2003, 09:05 AM

If you count the number of pages from the books he has left to cover (minus The Scouring of the Shire and Apendices) you will find that it is less than the number of pages he had to cover in FotR (minus The Old Forest, In the House of Tom Bombadil and Fog on the Barrow-downs). Add to this that PJ has only one more major character to introduce, Denethor, and his relationship within the story is easy. The locations he has to introduce are pretty minor when compared to the fact that he had to introduce the entire country of Rohan in Two Towers. Story wise it is more simple as well as it builds to a natural climax and the characters are converging as opposed to diverging as they were in TTT.I wouldn't worry. Frankly, I think RotK will be the easiest to put together.H.C.

merenwen · 04-13-2003, 06:13 PM

i was wonderin about that too but now that i read what everyone else said, i'm not worried

Voralphion · 04-14-2003, 06:58 PM

Ther probabaly won't be that much of Frodo and sam because with the exception of Shelob and Frodo's capture be the orcs, they are just walking through a desert. This part probably won't get much screen time leaving plenty of time for the rest of the story.

Arwen Imladris · 04-14-2003, 07:06 PM

Also, PJ isn't worring about length! It will be as long as it has to be, according to one of those spoilers in one of those spoiler threads. Don't worry, if anyone can do it, PJ can.

04-13-2003, 04:41 AM	#1
Daisy Brambleburr Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 334	How will PJ fit it all into ROTK? I was thinking today about how all of the events of tROTK, plus the end of TTT will fit into the last movie.<P>As well as the Shelob battle they have to put in the hobbits and Aragorn and co. meeting at Isengard from TTT,the palantir as well as a phenonomal battle from ROTK. I have been worrying about how the Faramir/Eowyn romance will be portrayed.<P>How do you think it will be done in the space of 3 and a half hours? Do you think anything will be missed out? And how will they top off the amazing battle of Helms Deep, seeing as the Battle of the Pelannor (sp) fields will be even bigger?<P>I eagerly await your opinions! (and I'm sorry if this has already been asked!)<P> __________________ 'What news from the South, O sighing wind, do you bring to me at eve? Where now is Boromir the Fair? He tarries and I grieve.'

04-13-2003, 04:45 AM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,118	From what we've seen so far in Fotr and TTT i have no doubt they'll manage it and it will still be absolutely fantastic. I doubt they'll focus too much on Faramir and Eowyn, although there are some scenes in the Houses of Healing. I don't think Shelob will need too much time... so they should be okay, if they give about an hour, maybe a bit more to Pelennor and the surrounding events. I think it will work quite nicely, actually. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

04-13-2003, 07:13 AM	#3
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	If you look in the book, ROTK is actually the shortest, it has the Apendices that make it look big. Plus there will be no scouring of the Shire.Even if the battle took up 45 mins. Frodo and Sam would at most take up an hour, and that leaves another hours for every thing else. Now, the actual battle of Pelannor feilds will probably stretch for an hour, but it will have other things woven into it like Frodo and Sam, The paths of the dead, All these thing must be portrayed at the same time as we saw in TTT. I doubt we will see a Whole hour of solid battle, but many different things put together. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

04-13-2003, 09:05 AM	#4
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	If you count the number of pages from the books he has left to cover (minus The Scouring of the Shire and Apendices) you will find that it is less than the number of pages he had to cover in FotR (minus The Old Forest, In the House of Tom Bombadil and Fog on the Barrow-downs). <P>Add to this that PJ has only one more major character to introduce, Denethor, and his relationship within the story is easy. The locations he has to introduce are pretty minor when compared to the fact that he had to introduce the entire country of Rohan in Two Towers. Story wise it is more simple as well as it builds to a natural climax and the characters are converging as opposed to diverging as they were in TTT.<P>I wouldn't worry. Frankly, I think RotK will be the easiest to put together.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

04-13-2003, 06:13 PM	#5
merenwen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: in my happy place! Posts: 47	i was wonderin about that too but now that i read what everyone else said, i'm not worried __________________ " you are a total... total... a word has yet to be invented to describe how totally whatever it is you are, but you are one, and a total, total one at that!"

04-14-2003, 06:58 PM	#6
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	Ther probabaly won't be that much of Frodo and sam because with the exception of Shelob and Frodo's capture be the orcs, they are just walking through a desert. This part probably won't get much screen time leaving plenty of time for the rest of the story. __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

04-14-2003, 07:06 PM	#7
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Also, PJ isn't worring about length! It will be as long as it has to be, according to one of those spoilers in one of those spoiler threads. Don't worry, if anyone can do it, PJ can. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."