The Two Towers DVD - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

04-28-2003, 10:49 AM

I have spent the past 3 weeks in Russia, and my mother bought me TTT on DVD for 200rub. (that's about £4) It is very funny. The first thing that comes on screen is "This film is for the viewing of the Academy [the people who give out Oscars] only, and not for release to the general public." Ooops. Oh well.Don't get me wrong, I don't support piracy or anything, but legitimate DVDs are just not to be found over there! Plus, it doesn't come out for several months.I was wondering, do you think it was morally wrong of me to buy it, as I am now being persecuted by my guilt.But then I think, hey, I have the Two Towers DVD!That's it really, and now I think about it, this is probably not very suitable for BD, but I don't know.

Airehiriel · 04-28-2003, 11:00 AM

First of all, let me say, Welcome, BeautifulSoup. What an interesting name!Now, to your question. Should you feel morally wrong about your DVD. Well, my thought is I'm not quite sure, considering you didn't mention that YOU bought it. Were you there? Did you convince your mom to buy it? And the real question, did you know that it was pirated? If you weren't there, then I wouldn't sweat it at all. It wasn't your decision in the first place. If you were, and you convinced her, that would be an entirely differnt matter.I'm sure the answer to the last question could be a little obvious, considering we all know that the release date should be around August time. But were you thinking that perhaps Russia was lucky and got it early? I guess really, it would depend on the kind of morals you try to hold for yourself. Some people may consider it morally wrong if you intentionally bought a pirated version. Some people may not, thinking if it is out there to buy, buy it. I think when it comes down to it, I really can't answer that question for you. My moral code could be vastly different from your own. But I do hope my initial thoughts may have helped you out. I think my parting words to you should be, if you didn't buy it, and didn't know your mom was buying it, don't worry. If you are home now, you certainly aren't going to trek all the way back to Russia just to return it.

Liriodendron · 04-28-2003, 11:02 AM

The legitimate DVD is not availabe here either. The AA screener copies are floating around and are out there for downloading. It's your call! I wouldn't feel too guilty if you are going to buy the official Dvd when it comes out anyway. Especially if you will probably end up buying both versions. (like I will) It's only money!

HCIsland · 04-28-2003, 11:13 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I wouldn't feel too guilty if you are going to buy the official Dvd when it comes out anyway. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Like what has already been said, we can't dictate your morality but personally, I would agree with the above statement.H.C.

Morima · 04-28-2003, 06:31 PM

You have TTT on DVD. Doesn't that excuse all but stealing?Just kidding (c:=. But you get my drift. I don't think you should feel guilty.

Beruthiel · 04-28-2003, 07:24 PM

I have a TTT dvd and its pirated. Got it in Malaysia and you can see dvds of all the new movies about 4 days after they've been in the cinema My TTT dvd has that thing about the oscars as well, at the bottom of the screen 'For your consideration' keeps flashing. Its really hilarious to watch it, they have english subtitles and the FUNNIEST one is this : When Eomer and Gandalf are about to save Theoden and that lot in Helm's Deep Eomer shouts 'Rohirrim'. In the subtitles however it says 'We'll hit them!' I was laughing so hard I could hardly breath Anyway back to the topic, I wouldn't feel bad about buying a pirated dvd. In Malaysia even the police officers buy them!

Lily Bracegirdle · 04-29-2003, 08:06 PM

I think it's a decision everyone has to make on their own. I buy fansubs of Japanese anime, so I've had to decide for myself what I feel comfortable with and what constitutes "piracy." My own interpretation is that the people who make great music or anime or movies should be rewarded for it as much as reasonably possible and the people who didn't contribute anything shouldn't make money off of it. This means that I try to buy bootleg copies ONLY if there is no legitimate way of buying the "real thing" in my country, and if a legitimate version comes out after I've bought the bootleg, I must either *buy* the legitimate version or *destroy* the bootleg copy. That's fair to the people who created the original version because either I want it enough to pay full price (and reward them) or I don't want it enough to own it (in which case they wouldn't have gotten any money out of me anyway.)Good luck with your own decision making! It's a pretty grey area. -Lily

GaladrieloftheOlden · 05-06-2003, 10:22 AM

My friend was just in Russia, and he just brought me back that DVD. It's cool, except the dubbing is terrible. But you can turn it off in sound effects...~Menelien

04-28-2003, 10:49 AM	#1
BeautifulSoup Guest Posts: n/a	The Two Towers DVD I have spent the past 3 weeks in Russia, and my mother bought me TTT on DVD for 200rub. (that's about £4) <BR>It is very funny. The first thing that comes on screen is "This film is for the viewing of the Academy [the people who give out Oscars] only, and not for release to the general public." <BR>Ooops. <P>Oh well.<P>Don't get me wrong, I don't support piracy or anything, but legitimate DVDs are just not to be found over there!<BR>Plus, it doesn't come out for several months.<P>I was wondering, do you think it was morally wrong of me to buy it, as I am now being persecuted by my guilt.<P>But then I think, hey, I have the Two Towers DVD!<P>That's it really, and now I think about it, this is probably not very suitable for BD, but I don't know.

04-28-2003, 11:00 AM	#2
Airehiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 470	First of all, let me say, Welcome, BeautifulSoup. What an interesting name!<P>Now, to your question. Should you feel morally wrong about your DVD. Well, my thought is I'm not quite sure, considering you didn't mention that YOU bought it. Were you there? Did you convince your mom to buy it? And the real question, did you know that it was pirated? <P>If you weren't there, then I wouldn't sweat it at all. It wasn't your decision in the first place. <P>If you were, and you convinced her, that would be an entirely differnt matter.<P>I'm sure the answer to the last question could be a little obvious, considering we all know that the release date should be around August time. But were you thinking that perhaps Russia was lucky and got it early? <P>I guess really, it would depend on the kind of morals you try to hold for yourself. Some people may consider it morally wrong if you intentionally bought a pirated version. Some people may not, thinking if it is out there to buy, buy it. <P>I think when it comes down to it, I really can't answer that question for you. My moral code could be vastly different from your own. But I do hope my initial thoughts may have helped you out. I think my parting words to you should be, if you didn't buy it, and didn't know your mom was buying it, don't worry. If you are home now, you certainly aren't going to trek all the way back to Russia just to return it. __________________ Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you discover the limits of the Almighty? Job 11:7

04-28-2003, 11:02 AM	#3
Liriodendron Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 532	The legitimate DVD is not availabe here either. The AA screener copies are floating around and are out there for downloading. It's your call! I wouldn't feel too guilty if you are going to buy the official Dvd when it comes out anyway. Especially if you will probably end up buying both versions. (like I will) It's only money! __________________ http://www.lizmargason.com

04-28-2003, 11:13 AM	#4
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I wouldn't feel too guilty if you are going to buy the official Dvd when it comes out anyway. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Like what has already been said, we can't dictate your morality but personally, I would agree with the above statement.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

04-28-2003, 06:31 PM	#5
Morima Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Budapest. Posts: 89	You have TTT on DVD. Doesn't that excuse all but stealing?<P>Just kidding (c:=. But you get my drift. I don't think you should feel guilty. __________________ «We're all but noon now; dawn, evening and midnight.» Aki Benetah.

04-28-2003, 07:24 PM	#6
Beruthiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Set adrift on the Great Sea Posts: 386	I have a TTT dvd and its pirated. Got it in Malaysia and you can see dvds of all the new movies about 4 days after they've been in the cinema My TTT dvd has that thing about the oscars as well, at the bottom of the screen 'For your consideration' keeps flashing. Its really hilarious to watch it, they have english subtitles and the FUNNIEST one is this :<BR>When Eomer and Gandalf are about to save Theoden and that lot in Helm's Deep Eomer shouts 'Rohirrim'. In the subtitles however it says 'We'll hit them!' <BR>I was laughing so hard I could hardly breath <P>Anyway back to the topic, I wouldn't feel bad about buying a pirated dvd. In Malaysia even the police officers buy them! __________________ ~I am not young enough to know everything~ Oscar Wilde

04-29-2003, 08:06 PM	#7
Lily Bracegirdle Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bree Posts: 210	I think it's a decision everyone has to make on their own. I buy fansubs of Japanese anime, so I've had to decide for myself what I feel comfortable with and what constitutes "piracy." My own interpretation is that the people who make great music or anime or movies should be rewarded for it as much as reasonably possible and the people who didn't contribute anything shouldn't make money off of it. This means that I try to buy bootleg copies ONLY if there is no legitimate way of buying the "real thing" in my country, and if a legitimate version comes out after I've bought the bootleg, I must either buy the legitimate version or destroy the bootleg copy. That's fair to the people who created the original version because either I want it enough to pay full price (and reward them) or I don't want it enough to own it (in which case they wouldn't have gotten any money out of me anyway.)<P>Good luck with your own decision making! It's a pretty grey area.<BR>-Lily __________________ "But nay: the praise of the praiseworthy is above all rewards." - Faramir

05-06-2003, 10:22 AM	#8
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,611	My friend was just in Russia, and he just brought me back that DVD. It's cool, except the dubbing is terrible. But you can turn it off in sound effects...<P>~Menelien __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."