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Urwen · 01-27-2017, 05:46 AM

The only thing I know is the fifth clue, which is either gold or black. Do we take a single letter from the clues or do we have to combine all of them into one big phrase.

If big phrase is involved, the only one I could think of is Ar-Pharazon the Golden, which does have a birth name of sorts and I can put the fifth clue, the only one I know, in there....

Galadriel55 · 01-27-2017, 06:16 AM

Right on with the fifth clue! Reposting the riddle on this page, and the answers as they come up:

My first is exactly the same as my fourth.
My second died out in the South, not the North.
My third and my fourth stand 'twixt hoops and their master,
Between bird and light, who saved lands from disaster.
My fifth is the colour of heroes and dragons.
My sixth is a fancy and glorified cabin.
Put them together, but that's not the answer:
My name that was given at birth's what you're after.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. GOLDEN
6.

I won't tell you yet what to do with the individual clues - try to get one or two more first, and you might figure it out yourself.

Not Ar-Pharazon, though you're right about the word GOLDEN. I would recommend working out the clues though instead of going through names with gold in them.

Urwen · 01-27-2017, 06:57 AM

As for the third clue, I think it's the word 'of' standing between Rings (hoops) and their master (Lord)

And this is where I am drawing a blank.

Of course, I have one more idea in the back of my foggy brain....could the answer to sixth clue be 'wood'. As in, 'Cabin in the Woods'?

Edit: Or maybe the answer to sixth clue is 'gap'?

Edit 2: Okay, I'll gamble it all here. The answer is you.

1. The
2. Lady
3. Of
4. The
5. Golden
6. Wood

aka you.

Nerwen · 01-27-2017, 09:05 AM

But when did ladies die out in the South?

My guess is that 2. and 6. are "King" and "Hall" respectively. If I'm right about that, and you're right about the rest, that would make it The King of the Golden Hall = Theoden.

Urwen · 01-27-2017, 09:12 AM

But I doubt fourth clue is just 'the'.

Nerwen · 01-27-2017, 09:36 AM

Well, it says, "my first is exactly the same as my fourth". And also you pointed out yourself, "of" is one of the words between "Lord" and "Rings"- but the other is "the", and the riddle speaks of "my third and my fourth".

Urwen · 01-27-2017, 09:43 AM

Yeah, but I don't want you to solve it, because.....well, setting puzzles for others to solve is one of my hobbies, and I am a bad solver overall....

Galadriel55 · 01-27-2017, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Yeah, but I don't want you to solve it, because.....well, setting puzzles for others to solve is one of my hobbies, and I am a bad solver overall....

Sorry Urwen, but Nerwen was spot on. The answer is Theoden. You got a good part of the riddle. But Nerwen gets to set the next one.

Urwen · 01-27-2017, 01:01 PM

*dissolves into a poodle of water*

Nerwen · 01-28-2017, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

*dissolves into a poodle of water*

A poodle of water? Is this some mystic hound in the service of Ulmo?

Now look, if it means that much to you, Urwen, you can have the next turn. I'm not that great at making up riddles anyway.

Urwen · 01-28-2017, 05:36 AM

I don't know, I'd like to earn the right to post one, rather than feeling as if I've stolen it. So if you have one, post if. If not, I'll take it.

Nerwen · 01-28-2017, 06:10 AM

Well, do you have one ready?

Urwen · 01-28-2017, 06:23 AM

Yes, I do. And you?

Nerwen · 01-28-2017, 07:56 AM

No. So, again, do you want to go first?

Urwen · 01-28-2017, 08:53 AM

Honestly, I do wish to. And here

The hunter watches
Watches with vigil
At night and during day
I am his prey

There were creatures
Bigger than many dwellers here
Their treasures were great
One of them was given to me

The stronghold of old
Into our fortress we made
Where we took the stand bold
Against shadow and shade

Yet it ended badly for us
And the curse it brought
Upon me and the others
Or so we thought

Well, I edited the original to be more poetic.

Nerwen · 01-29-2017, 10:17 PM

I know! I know!

LALAITH!!!!

Am I right or am I right?

Urwen · 01-30-2017, 02:24 AM

You are right.....

Not.

Pervinca Took · 02-12-2017, 05:30 PM

Balin, in Moria?

Nerwen · 03-21-2017, 06:26 AM

*bump*
Urwen? Well?

Nerwen · 04-25-2017, 05:14 AM

*bumping intensifies*
UUURRRRRWENNNN!!!

Nerwen · 05-06-2017, 06:54 AM

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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEE ENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!

Urwen · 07-19-2017, 04:17 AM

I am here, I am here, I am here.

And it's not. Be careful, lest the answer hits you like a boomerang.

Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee.

Look at the icon. :laughs:

Nerwen · 07-19-2017, 05:00 AM

The icon? I'm pretty sure the answer's not the Ring... or did you mean it's a Ringbearer? Bilbo in Erebor?

Urwen · 07-19-2017, 12:23 PM

Yes, I did mean that second one, though your answer is still incorrect.

Nerwen · 07-20-2017, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Yes, I did mean that second one, though your answer is still incorrect.

Frodo, then?

Urwen · 07-20-2017, 06:33 AM

Yes.

Huinesoron · 11-29-2017, 04:25 AM

Well, there seems to be a rule that (last riddle answered+ten days pass)=open thread, so I guess I'm free to sneak in here... I accidentally wrote a series of four riddles while pondering this thread, so I'm not going to pass up an opportunity to post one. ^_^

Last of all but first among us
Strong and bold and named there-for
Took my hand in glorious springtime
Ere we saw the starlit shore.

His the strength to help the helpless
Mine the grace beneath the trees
Young and strong we run together
Who am I?
And who is he?

There are two valid answers to this riddle. Well, there may be more, but I can think of two. Each answer, of course, consists of two names.

hS

Nerwen · 12-10-2017, 03:20 AM

Hmmn. Does this mean we have to guess both answers? I believe "You are Nessa, he is Tulkas" must be one of them, anyway.

Nerwen · 12-10-2017, 04:39 AM

Now, I'll bet you are going to be much trickier with the second answer, and so I should look for something more abstract/metaphorical- that is, "you" and "he" are not actual people this time. "Run together" suggests rivers to me, so I will guess "'You' are the Esgalduin, 'he' is the Sirion".

Huinesoron · 12-11-2017, 06:14 AM

Nessa and Tulkas are indeed the first meaning, and I can tell you that they were supposed to be the only meaning. The original second line was 'Crowned with gold and named there-for', referencing Tulkas' Valarin name - but I changed it.

No comment either way on whether I'm being tricksy (

), but I'm afraid Esgalduin-Sirion is not an answer I'd thought of.

hS

Huinesoron · 01-02-2018, 03:49 AM

Well, it's been a while, so in addition to leaving that one to ponder, I shall offer up a second riddle. This one doesn't have a double meaning.

Last of all he joined the journey
Though at first one of the three
Ventured forth and found new honour
Before returning home - to me.

Though the youngest of his fellows
He took the title deemed most high
While I by name alone am titled
Who is he?
And who am I?

01-27-2017, 05:46 AM	#1881
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	The only thing I know is the fifth clue, which is either gold or black. Do we take a single letter from the clues or do we have to combine all of them into one big phrase. If big phrase is involved, the only one I could think of is Ar-Pharazon the Golden, which does have a birth name of sorts and I can put the fifth clue, the only one I know, in there.... __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

01-27-2017, 06:16 AM	#1882
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 7,265	Right on with the fifth clue! Reposting the riddle on this page, and the answers as they come up: My first is exactly the same as my fourth. My second died out in the South, not the North. My third and my fourth stand 'twixt hoops and their master, Between bird and light, who saved lands from disaster. My fifth is the colour of heroes and dragons. My sixth is a fancy and glorified cabin. Put them together, but that's not the answer: My name that was given at birth's what you're after. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. GOLDEN 6. I won't tell you yet what to do with the individual clues - try to get one or two more first, and you might figure it out yourself. Not Ar-Pharazon, though you're right about the word GOLDEN. I would recommend working out the clues though instead of going through names with gold in them. __________________ - These taxes, they are like sacrifices to tribal gods? - Well, roughly speaking, but paying taxes is more painful. Doctor Who: The Sun Makers

01-27-2017, 06:57 AM	#1883
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	As for the third clue, I think it's the word 'of' standing between Rings (hoops) and their master (Lord) And this is where I am drawing a blank. Of course, I have one more idea in the back of my foggy brain....could the answer to sixth clue be 'wood'. As in, 'Cabin in the Woods'? Edit: Or maybe the answer to sixth clue is 'gap'? Edit 2: Okay, I'll gamble it all here. The answer is you. 1. The 2. Lady 3. Of 4. The 5. Golden 6. Wood aka you. __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means! Last edited by Urwen; 01-27-2017 at 07:15 AM.

01-27-2017, 09:05 AM	#1884
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	But when did ladies die out in the South? My guess is that 2. and 6. are "King" and "Hall" respectively. If I'm right about that, and you're right about the rest, that would make it The King of the Golden Hall = Theoden. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo. Last edited by Nerwen; 01-27-2017 at 09:25 AM. Reason: formatting.

01-27-2017, 09:12 AM	#1885
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	But I doubt fourth clue is just 'the'. __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

01-27-2017, 09:36 AM	#1886
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	Well, it says, "my first is exactly the same as my fourth". And also you pointed out yourself, "of" is one of the words between "Lord" and "Rings"- but the other is "the", and the riddle speaks of "my third and my fourth". __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

01-27-2017, 09:43 AM	#1887
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	Yeah, but I don't want you to solve it, because.....well, setting puzzles for others to solve is one of my hobbies, and I am a bad solver overall.... __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

01-27-2017, 01:01 PM	#1889
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	dissolves into a poodle of water __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

01-28-2017, 05:36 AM	#1891
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	I don't know, I'd like to earn the right to post one, rather than feeling as if I've stolen it. So if you have one, post if. If not, I'll take it. __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

01-28-2017, 06:10 AM	#1892
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	Well, do you have one ready? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

01-28-2017, 06:23 AM	#1893
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	Yes, I do. And you? __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means! Last edited by Urwen; 01-28-2017 at 06:41 AM.

01-28-2017, 07:56 AM	#1894
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	No. So, again, do you want to go first? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

01-28-2017, 08:53 AM	#1895
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	Honestly, I do wish to. And here The hunter watches Watches with vigil At night and during day I am his prey There were creatures Bigger than many dwellers here Their treasures were great One of them was given to me The stronghold of old Into our fortress we made Where we took the stand bold Against shadow and shade Yet it ended badly for us And the curse it brought Upon me and the others Or so we thought Well, I edited the original to be more poetic. __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means! Last edited by Urwen; 01-28-2017 at 12:52 PM.

01-29-2017, 10:17 PM	#1896
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	I know! I know! *LALAITH!!!!* Am I right or am I right? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

01-30-2017, 02:24 AM	#1897
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	You are right..... Not. __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

02-12-2017, 05:30 PM	#1898
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 1,373	Balin, in Moria? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-21-2017, 06:26 AM	#1899
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	bump Urwen? Well? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-25-2017, 05:14 AM	#1900
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	bumping intensifies *UUURRRRRWENNNN!!!* __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-06-2017, 06:54 AM	#1901
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump BUMP bump *UUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEE ENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!* __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

07-19-2017, 04:17 AM	#1902
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	I am here, I am here, I am here. And it's not. Be careful, lest the answer hits you like a boomerang. Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee. Look at the icon. :laughs: __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

07-19-2017, 05:00 AM	#1903
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	The icon? I'm pretty sure the answer's not the Ring... or did you mean it's a Ringbearer? Bilbo in Erebor? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

07-19-2017, 12:23 PM	#1904
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	Yes, I did mean that second one, though your answer is still incorrect. __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

07-20-2017, 06:33 AM	#1906
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	Yes. __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

11-29-2017, 04:25 AM	#1907
Huinesoron Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The Fair City of Nargothrond Posts: 279	A riddle? Well, there seems to be a rule that (last riddle answered+ten days pass)=open thread, so I guess I'm free to sneak in here... I accidentally wrote a series of four riddles while pondering this thread, so I'm not going to pass up an opportunity to post one. ^_^ Last of all but first among us Strong and bold and named there-for Took my hand in glorious springtime Ere we saw the starlit shore. His the strength to help the helpless Mine the grace beneath the trees Young and strong we run together Who am I? And who is he? There are two valid answers to this riddle. Well, there may be more, but I can think of two. Each answer, of course, consists of two names. hS

12-10-2017, 03:20 AM	#1908
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	Hmmn. Does this mean we have to guess both answers? I believe "You are Nessa, he is Tulkas" must be one of them, anyway. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

12-10-2017, 04:39 AM	#1909
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,371	Now, I'll bet you are going to be much trickier with the second answer, and so I should look for something more abstract/metaphorical- that is, "you" and "he" are not actual people this time. "Run together" suggests rivers to me, so I will guess "'You' are the Esgalduin, 'he' is the Sirion". __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

12-11-2017, 06:14 AM	#1910
Huinesoron Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The Fair City of Nargothrond Posts: 279	Nessa and Tulkas are indeed the first meaning, and I can tell you that they were supposed to be the only meaning. The original second line was 'Crowned with gold and named there-for', referencing Tulkas' Valarin name - but I changed it. No comment either way on whether I'm being tricksy (), but I'm afraid Esgalduin-Sirion is not an answer I'd thought of. hS

01-02-2018, 03:49 AM	#1911
Huinesoron Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The Fair City of Nargothrond Posts: 279	Well, it's been a while, so in addition to leaving that one to ponder, I shall offer up a second riddle. This one doesn't have a double meaning. Last of all he joined the journey Though at first one of the three Ventured forth and found new honour Before returning home - to me. Though the youngest of his fellows He took the title deemed most high While I by name alone am titled Who is he? And who am I?

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