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Old 06-09-2003, 03:19 PM   #1
Morgoth Bauglir
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Its been so long since ive read them, so i have another question [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] and my brother stole all the books

Gandalf was a maiar, but which Valar did he serve?I forget!
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:53 PM   #2
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I know this one, I know who it is, but I just can't seem to remember what his name is. He is the head god, so to speak the brother of Melkor, so if you can remember who that is, he was the head god.
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Old 06-09-2003, 04:06 PM   #3
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The Encyclopaedia of Arda says he served Manwe (the 'head god' of whom you speak) and his spouse Varda.
But perhaps I read somewhere that he was a Maia of Lorien (that is, the home of the god of dreams in Valinor)
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Old 06-09-2003, 05:42 PM   #4
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He was a Maia of Manwe, but a pupil of Nienna (?). Well, a pupil of one of the Valar other than Manwe.
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Old 06-09-2003, 05:52 PM   #5
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Yes indeed, Meela, he was taught pity and patience by Nienna although he lived in Lorien. And Morgoth Bauglir, I'm sure you're not a failure, not by a long shot. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-09-2003, 06:20 PM   #6
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Oh yeah, it waaaaaas Manwe. I don't happen to own a copy of The Silmarillion, and that I am working on, so forgive me.
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Old 06-09-2003, 07:52 PM   #7
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ok good i thought so!Im still a failure though lol!I remembered that part where manwe tells him to go and help defeat sauron. and then he pussies out and tells manwe hes scared and too weak [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] and then manwe says thats all the more reason to go

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Old 06-11-2003, 01:45 PM   #8
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Pupil Of Nienna (?)
Didn't Yavanna teach him discipline
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Old 06-11-2003, 01:49 PM   #9
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Old 06-12-2003, 12:55 PM   #10
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There are here also some rough tables relating the names of the Istari to the names of the Valar: Olorin to Manwë and Varda, Curumo to Aulë, Aiwendil to Yavanna, Alatar to Oromë, and Pallando also to Oromë
So Gandalf was a Maiar of Manwë, of a sort anyway. He was taught much by Nienna, including discipline.

Yavanna did not interact with Olorin all that much. Aiwendil was the pupil of Yavanna.

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Old 06-12-2003, 10:13 PM   #11
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So Gandalf was a Maiar of Manwë, of a sort anyway.
Maia of Manwë, honestly.

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Old 06-13-2003, 11:20 AM   #12
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Maia of Manwë, honestly.
Hey, Gandalf may have Multiple-Personality Disorder. He could be more than one person.

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