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Mattius · 09-11-2002, 02:23 PM

I always knew that Galadrial was old but when I actually thought about for a while I realised she must be amazingly old!! I wondered if anyone had a rough idea of her age during the War of the Ring.

Matt

Lindolirian · 09-11-2002, 02:34 PM

Sje was born during the Years of the Trees, but i don't knw exactly when. She lived thru the first, secing and third ages. At the very end of the Third Age (3021), so that would be at least 7045 years.

Arwen Imladris · 09-11-2002, 02:37 PM

Ya, she is at least 6480 years old. She was one of the first elves to come to Middle earth from Valinor. She lived some time before that as well though.

Mattius · 09-11-2002, 03:10 PM

hmmm, not bad for a 7065 year old

Joy · 09-15-2002, 08:35 PM

This is probably going to flip you out, but Galadriel is much older than that!

According to the Encyclopedia of Arda

She was born during the Years of the Trees. When the Elves awoke at Cuiviénen, Melkor was chained. This period was 2900 years. She was probably born within 900 years of that time. This would make her at least 2000 years old when the trees were killed.

Then came the 1st Age, which last 583 years. It ended with the War of the Wrath and the Distuction (sinking) of Beleriand.

The 2nd Age lasted 3441 years and ended with the Last Alliance. Then the 3rd Age, which was 3021 and ended when the Elves sailed to Valinor.

This would make Galadriel around 9000 years old

Evenstar1 · 09-15-2002, 09:05 PM

Dang! What kind of Oil of Olay does she use? (Er, rather, that would probably be 'Oil of Olwe'...?)

elengil · 09-15-2002, 09:37 PM

(Er, rather, that would probably be 'Oil of Olwe'...?)

Bonk [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] .... you should stick that on the "pun" page.

Evenstar1 · 09-15-2002, 09:58 PM

Thank you! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Um, I looked 'round the Downs and couldn't find a Pun Page. Could you please direct me?

Joy · 09-15-2002, 10:14 PM

It's in Middle Earth Mayhem - Tolkien Puns, but anyways, here's the link.

Tolkien Puns

Frodo Baggins · 09-16-2002, 08:21 AM

9000 sounds about right. I mean the woman lived in Valinor in the time of the two trees Telpriion and Laurelin. She crossed the Helcaraxe after the destruction of the two trees! She has seen a lot!!
When I saw the age 6,480 i knew that couln't be true because when ELrond left Middle Earth, he was 6,520, and he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy younger than Galadriel.

Orald · 09-16-2002, 08:54 AM

I don't think that site you named took into account the difference in Valarin Years and Years of the Sun. A Valarin Year, which was how elves kept track of time until the rising of the Sun and the First Age, was somewhere near 10 Years of the Sun or maybe even 144. Which could make Galadriel much much older.

Joy · 09-16-2002, 11:20 AM

The site did note, Under the index Years of the Trees, that a Valarin Year was 9.4 some odd years. So that, in our terms, was about 14,900 years.

It stated that some 10,000 years had passed from the time of the Trees to the Awakening. Then Morgoth was was chained for 2900 years, the time of 3 Ages.

Evenstar1 · 09-16-2002, 08:03 PM

Thanks Joy and elengil! I posted that (and a few other groaners) in the Puns-section! (Good to know that's there! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] )

09-11-2002, 02:23 PM	#1
Mattius Soul of Fire Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Steel Posts: 693	How Old...? I always knew that Galadrial was old but when I actually thought about for a while I realised she must be amazingly old!! I wondered if anyone had a rough idea of her age during the War of the Ring. Matt __________________ A problem shared is a problem halved, so is your problem really yours or just half of someone else's?

09-11-2002, 02:34 PM	#2
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Sje was born during the Years of the Trees, but i don't knw exactly when. She lived thru the first, secing and third ages. At the very end of the Third Age (3021), so that would be at least 7045 years. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

09-11-2002, 02:37 PM	#3
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Ya, she is at least 6480 years old. She was one of the first elves to come to Middle earth from Valinor. She lived some time before that as well though. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

09-11-2002, 03:10 PM	#4
Mattius Soul of Fire Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Steel Posts: 693	hmmm, not bad for a 7065 year old __________________ A problem shared is a problem halved, so is your problem really yours or just half of someone else's?

09-15-2002, 08:35 PM	#5
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,020	This is probably going to flip you out, but Galadriel is much older than that! According to the Encyclopedia of Arda She was born during the Years of the Trees. When the Elves awoke at Cuiviénen, Melkor was chained. This period was 2900 years. She was probably born within 900 years of that time. This would make her at least 2000 years old when the trees were killed. Then came the 1st Age, which last 583 years. It ended with the War of the Wrath and the Distuction (sinking) of Beleriand. The 2nd Age lasted 3441 years and ended with the Last Alliance. Then the 3rd Age, which was 3021 and ended when the Elves sailed to Valinor. This would make Galadriel around 9000 years old __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

09-15-2002, 09:05 PM	#6
Evenstar1 Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado (just east of the Misty Mts.) Posts: 111	Dang! What kind of Oil of Olay does she use? (Er, rather, that would probably be 'Oil of Olwe'...?) __________________ - Eve

09-15-2002, 09:37 PM	#7
elengil Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: eryn lasgalen Posts: 91	(Er, rather, that would probably be 'Oil of Olwe'...?) Bonk [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] .... you should stick that on the "pun" page. __________________ No fairer words were ever spoke - Than of immortal Elvish folk - Who shone forth bright eternal light - When under stars they first awoke

09-15-2002, 09:58 PM	#8
Evenstar1 Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado (just east of the Misty Mts.) Posts: 111	Thank you! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Um, I looked 'round the Downs and couldn't find a Pun Page. Could you please direct me? __________________ - Eve

09-15-2002, 10:14 PM	#9
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,020	It's in Middle Earth Mayhem - Tolkien Puns, but anyways, here's the link. Tolkien Puns __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

09-16-2002, 08:21 AM	#10
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	9000 sounds about right. I mean the woman lived in Valinor in the time of the two trees Telpriion and Laurelin. She crossed the Helcaraxe after the destruction of the two trees! She has seen a lot!! When I saw the age 6,480 i knew that couln't be true because when ELrond left Middle Earth, he was 6,520, and he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy younger than Galadriel. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

09-16-2002, 08:54 AM	#11
Orald Shadow of Malice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: right behind you Posts: 843	I don't think that site you named took into account the difference in Valarin Years and Years of the Sun. A Valarin Year, which was how elves kept track of time until the rising of the Sun and the First Age, was somewhere near 10 Years of the Sun or maybe even 144. Which could make Galadriel much much older.

09-16-2002, 11:20 AM	#12
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,020	The site did note, Under the index Years of the Trees, that a Valarin Year was 9.4 some odd years. So that, in our terms, was about 14,900 years. It stated that some 10,000 years had passed from the time of the Trees to the Awakening. Then Morgoth was was chained for 2900 years, the time of 3 Ages. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

09-16-2002, 08:03 PM	#13
Evenstar1 Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado (just east of the Misty Mts.) Posts: 111	Thanks Joy and elengil! I posted that (and a few other groaners) in the Puns-section! (Good to know that's there! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ) __________________ - Eve