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Old 07-05-2000, 02:36 PM   #1
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Who is the speaker and why does he say what he says?<blockquote>Quote:<hr> &quot;Well!&quot; mentioned merrily. &quot;Then I would like it the dinner first and afterwards a whistle&quot; at this its opacifié. Face &quot;Not, not a whistle. I do not think that I will still smoke&quot;
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Old 07-05-2000, 07:03 PM   #2
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I'm not sure of the setting, but it sounds like Gandalf taking up a new resolve after becoming Gandalf the White.

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To me it sounds like Merry Brandybuck waking up in the Houses of Healing, feeling hungry, but not wanting to smoke again from reget at the loss of his friend the King of Rohan, Theoden.

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AHHHHH! Didn't figure out the &quot;merrily&quot; part!

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How confusing, I thought Kittle was right.

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I believe that I am, galpsi, and that Boromir is just showing frustration that HE didn't ick up on the 'merrily' part. Only burrahobbit can save us now.

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RKittle is correct. Sorry to post and run like that.

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No apologies neccesary, burrahobbit. Here's a new quote.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> It this of the breaks a thing, in order to uncover, what it is left the way of the wisdom.<hr></blockquote>

English &gt; French &gt; German &gt; English

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I know it, I know it!
One of my absolute favourite scenes: Gandalf reports at the Council of Elrond how he came to Isengard. Saruman and Gandalf there talked about Saruman“s new many-coloured cloak, and Gandalf says he liked white better. Saruman replies that white light can be broken into many new colours, but Gandalf points out that in this case it is no longer white (i.e. pure), and he remarks that &quot;he who breaks a thing to find out how it works inside has left the past of wisdom&quot;. This is your meddled quote. Didn“t look that up.

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Old 07-06-2000, 10:49 AM   #10
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Very good, Sharku!! It is one of my favorite lines of Gandalf's (and indeed, of the books).

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Another mistranslation

Here goes:

&quot;These bits of the rise can have seated in the edge to damage and to examine or to say the joys of the vector of the small acts of its parents, grandparents and the parents and the degree of the cousins nineth they had separated one, if animates with disproportioned the patience.&quot;

( German -&gt; French -&gt; English -&gt; Spanish -&gt; English -&gt; Portugese -&gt; English. Silly babelfish with too few possibilities.)

Shouldn“t be toooo hard, but it“s funny what got translated to &quot;pieces of luggage&quot;, later &quot;bits of the rise&quot;...

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This is Gandalf warning Theoden that Hobbits will &quot;sit on the edge of ruin discussing the pleasures of the table or the doings of their grandfathers,&quot; etc...

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Aw, man! I had it on the tip of my tongue but just couldn't identify the occasion. Good job, G.

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Boy are these time-consuming.
Who said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> We led in direction outside orcs great sector of protection and barrier. We empty much in the sun shining in the dale.<hr></blockquote>
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Tell me if I'm warm or cold ....is this Merry and Pippin somewhere in Rohan of possibly even within the borders of Fangorn?

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Sam and Frodo among the orc host?

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No. This may have been too obscure. As a hint, remember that your old friend galpsi is a terrible dwarf-enthusiast. That's why he's never been a big fan of the Silmarillion.

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Sounds like a reading from the book found in the Chamber of Records.

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It is precisely that. The original read:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> We drove out orcs from the great gate and guard room. We slew many in the bright sun in the dale.<hr></blockquote>
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Who said this garbled quote? And what were the circumstances?
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Forward you go! For the hour is bad, and your road leads to the pain, which do not designate the ye. <hr></blockquote>

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No guesses?

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You`ve baffled me, R. Not a difficult task, I must admit.

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Think 'ancient times'....

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Think 'Undying Land'!

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Is it an extract from the `Doom of the Noldor`?

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That's right, Taimar. !!

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I may be slow, but I got there in the end.

Here is another from the Silmarillion:

&quot;none shall stand here, lest down anger the Valar. Danger I assume me, the sake of the two families.&quot;

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Earendil or Ulmo

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I think it is Earendil

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Yeah, I think I just answered it untranslated in another thread. But is Taimar still around?

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Can someone explain how this thread works? I feel like I've travelled into the Twilight Zone?

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http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/u...c&f=6&t=000013pub12.ezboard.com/fthebar...D=13.topic</a>

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Go ahead, KayQy

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&quot;If the men have a use of the lover of the magic that continues to having in golden wood, therefore it can try after other things in order following.&quot;

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You are the winner of an all-expenses-paid chance to--drumroll please...

Give us the next quote!

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Quote:
'All this is but a fool-fire of the Elves, those who seek to beguile newcomers that are unwary. Which of you has seen the Sea, who has beheld the Orcs, who are least of the Gods? ? the Dark King in the North has no shore. There is no Elvish West in the Light. lore? tales! You have followed to the end of the world!'
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Yes, and only one being could say something so horribly: Sauron to the Numenoreans.

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