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Old 11-12-2018, 07:13 AM   #4361
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Dorwinion for D? Not sure about the wandering bit, though. Unless the wine causes the mind to wander?

EDIT: The location of Dorwinion wandered over time. Tolkien once located it somewhere on Tol Eressea.
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:15 AM   #4362
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Just to get it on this page ...

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W But one or two letters of separation keep this genus from the Dark Lord.
A "Is me?" quoth Pandora.
NOLDOR Too dignified to be cut down to a palatal nasal epithet.
D On a western beach we sup.
ESTEL Stronger as jumbled iron.
RANA Too wayward a king.
E Pickle and a non-kosher delicacy.
R "Not a game" of chance.
S Patron of a most singular Eorling.
Edit: Almost the same guess twice, but SHARKEY for the last clue, for the same reasons as before?
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:01 AM   #4363
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Is the W one WIZARD? Maybe it's 2 letters of separation from 'ward' for 'keep' rather than from the zoological genera I was looking through.

They're generally wandering, if they're doing their jobs properly.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:13 AM   #4364
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Is R RANGERS - perhaps referring to a game of some sort? I believe there's a game called Space Rangers.
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Old 11-12-2018, 01:26 PM   #4365
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WIZARDS But one or two letters of separation keep this genus from the Dark Lord.
A "Is me?" quoth Pandora.
NOLDOR Too dignified to be cut down to a palatal nasal epithet.
D On a western beach we sup.
ESTEL Stronger as jumbled iron.
RANA Too wayward a king.
E Pickle and a non-kosher delicacy.
R "Not a game" of chance.
S Patron of a most singular Eorling.


No to Rangers, yes to Wizards--though not the thinking I had in mind.

Wizard is one word from Lizard, (saurus), which is almost Sauron.

No to Sharkey.

No to Dorwinion.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:11 PM   #4366
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DUNEDAIN: possibly a sound-alike for "dine"? The first half could either be directly explained as DUN = West(ern), or as "dune", whatever that's got to do with western beaches.



Also, from the start I couldn't stop thinking of "AM I" for "is me" in the second clue, but I don't think anything starts with that. I think it might help someone though in the collective thinking process.


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Old 11-12-2018, 03:19 PM   #4367
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Amarie ... but did she wander? I think she stayed put.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:37 PM   #4368
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R ... ROVERANDOM, with random for chance? I don't know about the game bit, though.

Maybe A is ARIEN? 'Aren't I' with the T left out?
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:46 PM   #4369
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For the Pickle clue: dill pickles are a thing, and EARENDIL is a wanderer who has, I guess, a pig's ear at the beginning? It might be a delicacy somewhere.

Or ELENDIL, with no idea how the first part might fit. ^_^

And for A: following the 'am' idea, why Pandora? Someone like AMROTH might work, since wrath is probably one of the things she let loose.

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Old 11-12-2018, 04:55 PM   #4370
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Well, our dogs used to like pigs' ears at one point.
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Pig ears are (or once were maybe) indeed a delicacy in some regions of Europe and possibly elsewhere. Is there a way to explain the EN?
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Phonetic rendition of "and" or "an' "? Ear-an'-dill, coming to a MacTelcontar's near you!

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WIZARDS But one or two letters of separation keep this genus from the Dark Lord.
A "Is me?" quoth Pandora.
NOLDOR Too dignified to be cut down to a palatal nasal epithet.
DUNEDAIN On a western beach we sup.
ESTEL Stronger as jumbled iron.
RANA Too wayward a king.
EARENDIL Pickle and a non-kosher delicacy.
ROVERANDOM "Not a game" of chance.
S Patron of a most singular Eorling.


Three correct guesses--and for the correct reasons: Ear 'n Dill, Dining on the (western) dunes, and a random Rover!
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:52 AM   #4374
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Why 'not a game,' though ... is it because some football teams are -------- Rovers? Or a reference to the toy dog in Roverandom?

A - AMROD? No better reason than 'Rod' appearing in Pandora and Amrod wandering over to and around M-e to play Hunt The Silmarils, I'm afraid.
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S - STRIDER, and a reference to his relationship with Eomer?
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Okay, 'Pan-Dora' means 'all-gift', so the closest name that actually exists in Middle-earth would be ANNATAR, 'Lord of Gifts'.

Is there another Pandora? There's a handful of real people with the name, but none jump out as significant. Google wants to direct me to a jewellery company. It's the moon in Avatar, which might be a living thing; you could go from 'a moon' to AMON, but which of the many hills? There's no Amon Infilm or Amon Byjamescameron that I know of.

(It's also a moon of Saturn, but again...)

A couple of computer game characters, an Anne Rice vampire, genera of fungi and clams... there really is nothing leaping out.

Could it be a straight anagram? That 'quoth' looks like a keyword hinting something. But there's no Middle-earth names which start with A and come close to having the right letters, other than Andy Roper. AND' ROPA, then? Or Rowlie APPLEDORE sounds vaguely similar, but seems to have never left Bree.

Okay, so probably not an anagram... 'quoth' makes me think of Poe, and 'quoth the Raven, Nevermore'. ARAVORN is a chieftain of the Dunedain who almost has a raven in his name (and the difference could be a combination of 'raven' and 'urn', for Pandora's jar), and was I guess a theoretical wanderer... but that's a pretty weak justification.

We're going to be kicking ourselves over this one, aren't we?

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What is a patron? Either someone who supports you, or someone who is your customer. By and large, Formendacil's clues don't have a straight component ('Rana' is the main exception, with its combination straight-anagram indicator), so I think we're looking for a synonym for 'patron+Eorling' (or 'Eorling+patron') starting with S.

... ah, and I think Pervinca actually got the right answer! Saint Rider, right?

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WIZARDS But one or two letters of separation keep this genus from the Dark Lord.
A "Is me?" quoth Pandora.
NOLDOR Too dignified to be cut down to a palatal nasal epithet.
DUNEDAIN On a western beach we sup.
ESTEL Stronger as jumbled iron.
RANA Too wayward a king.
EARENDIL Pickle and a non-kosher delicacy.
ROVERANDOM "Not a game" of chance.
STRIDER Patron of a most singular Eorling.


Saint Rider it is! Though not because of Eomer, but because "rider" in Sindarin is "ro(c)hir"--the singular of "Rohirrim."

The "not a game" part was in quotation marks to indicate that "chance = random" was the important part. I had the game "Red Rover" in mind, but I'm not sure if that's mire universally known than in western Canada.
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Not at all sure I was right, and hadn't thought of 'saint' for patron, just as Aragorn as Eomer's patron as Rohan is part of his kingdom.

You forgot the Pandora who was Adrian Mole's first girlfriend (No, I can't solve the clue from that fascinating piece of information, either).

(But I remember Ian Dury singing the theme tune: 'Profoundly in love with Pandora').

I'm pretty hopeful about your 'Annatar,' though.
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Not at all sure I was right, and hadn't thought of 'saint' for patron, just as Aragorn as Eomer's patron as Rohan is part of his kingdom.

You forgot the Pandora who was Adrian Mole's first girlfriend (No, I can't solve the clue from that fascinating piece of information, either).

(But I remember Ian Dury singing the theme tune: 'Profoundly in love with Pandora').

I'm pretty hopeful about your 'Annatar,' though.
Ah, yes, I did forget to answer that: however, the correct answer has not yet surfaced.

The Pandora reference is not (at least not directly, since all uses of the name are generally at keast an oblique reference) to the character from mythology.
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There's a jewellery company called Pandora.

There's also an online music streaming service, or something.

Arkenstone? Ainulindale? Can only be seen as very metaphorical wanderers.

P.S. Sorry, did not see that Hs had already mentioned Pandora jewellery.

..

I can think of a couple more characters that could be described as wanderers, but cannot work out the Pandora element.
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It does seem a bit quiet here...

"Pandora" was acquired for this case by Googling roles of a famous actress.
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AVARI? Or perhaps AVAR?

AVA for Ava Gardner, who played Pandora ... not sure about the RI, though ... I? Are I?

Or Avar - the singular of Avari - plus I?

Some wandered in the hills, and I believe many later wandered westwards.
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WIZARDS But one or two letters of separation keep this genus from the Dark Lord.
AVARI "Is me?" quoth Pandora.
NOLDOR Too dignified to be cut down to a palatal nasal epithet.
DUNEDAIN On a western beach we sup.
ESTEL Stronger as jumbled iron.
RANA Too wayward a king.
EARENDIL Pickle and a non-kosher delicacy.
ROVERANDOM "Not a game" of chance.
STRIDER Patron of a most singular Eorling.


Ava: "r i?" it is!

And that's the set.
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Excellent password, Formendacil!

Here we go, then:

1. Initially Frodo’s pantry, but now in chaos for this beast!
2. Running flush – that’s him!
3. He uncoils for a springy sound. Not much, though.
4. No party for him?
5. He renders Thora blind, and Thorin bald!
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