Typos (or: Is it a Freudian slip?) - Page 16 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rikae · 08-21-2007, 08:59 AM

Now that might just explain the snow-walking! We've already discussed the spiritual properties of elves, but we completely overlooked the possibility that the mystical powers belonged, not to the elf himself, but rather to his footwear!

In which case, unless his jacket is similarly enlighted, elves can make snow angels.

Oddwen · 08-22-2007, 12:10 AM

Light Shoes of Snow Walking + 2?

davem · 09-27-2007, 04:25 AM

Dont know if we've had this one, & I'm not sure it exactly belongs here, but checking the Thornton's Bookshop site I find this curious fact regarding Bilbo's Last Song:

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TOLKIEN, J.R.R., & DONALD SWANN Bilbo's Last Song
. Albert House Press, 1992, 4to sized paperback. 4 pages in black wrappers, page 5 is printed on the inside of the rear cover.
¶ Bilbo's Last Song is a poem by J.R.R. Tolkien. It was originally entitled "Bilbo's Last Lay", but this was later changed due to the obvious difficulties over the last word. It was given by Tolkien as a gift to his secretary Joy Hill in 1966. After Tolkien's death in 1973 Hill showed the poem to Donald Swann, who liked the poem so much that he set it to music.
GBP 25.00 [Appr.: EURO 37 US$ 49.38 | JP¥ 5860] Book number: F0193

Mithalwen · 09-27-2007, 11:29 AM

Oh dear .. he was rather an innocent in some ways *cough* teleporno, shagrat *cough*

Finduilas · 09-27-2007, 12:54 PM

I'm confused... But maybe that's a good thing.

Bêthberry · 09-28-2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Oh dear .. he was rather an innocent in some ways *cough* teleporno, shagrat *cough*

Well, he never gave us Lewdthien and Baren. Or Bear-in.

Mithalwen · 09-28-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Well, he never gave us Lewdthien and Baren. Or Bear-in.

My theory is that he was too involved with the languages to realise the absurdity of some names or dubious meanings . .. I mean I am sorry but Tuna as a place name?

I know too well the pitfalls of teaching beginners german, the words for "go" and "father" are liable to cause mass hysteria among the young - mind you I was in a very serious and grown up choir which also suffered bouts of mass hysteria while rehearsing the Haydn "Stabat Mater"

davem · 09-28-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

My theory is that he was too involved with the languages to realise the absurdity of some names or dubious meanings . .. I mean I am sorry but Tuna as a place name?

Its probably more complicated. Tolkien was (overly??) serious about his language creation, & couldn't simply change a single word or name without changing the structure, grammar, syntax &, er.... stuff of the whole language. Quenya & Sindarin were interconnected, & he couldn't change 'Teleporno' without also changing 'Celeborn', & if he'd changed the names he'd have had to change the meaning of the roots (oo er missus!).

The main reason Tolkien's languages are so convincing is that they aren't just collections of random syllables, but 'actual' languages, with their own rules. CT points out that he wouldn't simply invent a new word for one of his languages, but would have to work out the changes that word would have undergone over, potentially, thousands of years.

I can't help feeling that he would have been fully aware of the 'double meanings' ......

Mithalwen · 09-28-2007, 12:34 PM

I agree to a point but I doubt that Orcish was so precious that Shagrat couldn't have had a different name. My sister, who sneered at Tolkien for years until she became possibly the world oldest Leggybopper nearly crashed her car when she caught that part of the BBC adaptation on the radio ..... even with the careful stress employed by the owners of Shih Tzu dogs...

When one of the disparaging reviewers of CoH said that Thingol was the silliest name among Tolkien's characters I knew he probably didn't have a good knowledge of the oeuvre...

davem · 09-28-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I agree to a point but I doubt that Orcish was so precious that Shagrat couldn't have had a different name.

When one of the disparaging reviewers of CoH said that Thingol was the silliest name among Tolkien's characters I knew he probably didn't have a good knowledge of the oeuvre...

I think sound outweighed primary world connotations - 'Shaggratt' & 'Gorrbagg' sound harsh & brutal (& ugly), while Thingol has a generally 'soft' sound, but with a hint of 'hardness'. I suppose its the 'cellar door' thing ('English & Welsh).

However, I'm starting to wonder whether I haven't dragged this thread away from Mirth towards Books .....

Lalwendë · 09-29-2007, 09:39 AM

I don't think that Shagrat would have been anything all that funny to Tolkien though? Given that there was a dance craze called The Shag in the early 60s, it must have been some time before teens started laughing at the 'other' meaning (given that teens are usually the first to pick up on rude words anyway).

Mithalwen · 09-29-2007, 09:43 AM

I did a bit of research and it has been used in the "rude sense" since the 17th century although not always widespread ...after all in Australia, even on my first visit "too feel like a shag on a rock" mean to feel very tired like a seabird who has reached land after a very long swim .....

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-15-2007, 10:58 AM

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For the next one we need a moderator firstly, and then all others sing up and once we have enough we can start.

I didn't know we are hosting a singing contest here.

...and then all the non-musical Downers sing and once we have enough, we can start beating them with something...

Thinlómien · 01-01-2008, 08:50 PM

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Cross-posting may be marked and smelling corrected.

No further comments.
Except that ww really seems to be weird business...

Volo · 01-02-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

No further comments.
Except that ww really seems to be weird business...

I just knew that something would go wrong with the sentence. Oh well... *hides*

Mithalwen · 01-28-2008, 03:07 PM

(and I know she has a children).

Must be siamese twins...

Mithalwen · 01-31-2008, 02:54 PM

a mithology for England

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-07-2008, 05:26 AM

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website i have ever been apart of

Poor one.

Thinlómien · 02-17-2008, 12:23 PM

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I made that last year when I was a wolf with Kath and Lol (inspired by the wolf-avvie Lal switched to after her death.)

I guess the only thing I can say is LOL.

Rikae · 02-17-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I guess the only thing I can say is: lol.

Ooops!

Rikae · 02-26-2008, 01:05 PM

Along the same lines as the "legative feelings" in the "Addicted" thread:

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... rattled a small bell but I am rusty and not sure how mormal it is.

Do I see yet another werewolf-neologism on the horizon?

Thinlómien · 02-28-2008, 03:28 AM

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In my opinion Marry win the contest.

What kind of contest is that?

Finduilas · 02-28-2008, 06:56 AM

I feel sorry for new comers, particularly ones that have a non English first language. Considering that was his or hers first post (I beleive) you could have a little mercy.

Thinlómien · 02-28-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Finduilas

I feel sorry for new comers, particularly ones that have a non English first language. Considering that was his or hers first post (I beleive) you could have a little mercy.

I can understand your point, but I think I disagree. It was not meant to be nasty, and to be precise, it was not his/her first... okay, and seriously, and I do not have English as my first language and make about half of the typos of this thread (ok, that was exaggerating, but you get the picture

) so... I guess it's all about how seriously you take typos in general. I think they're harmless and amusing and I'm not ashamed of making them... they're just typos.

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EDIT: Actually, I wish my birthday was toMorrow (it isn't, though)... then I'd be turning seven...

I laughed so much when I saw this. Everybody always talks about making such typos but this is the first time I actually saw one.

Rikae · 02-28-2008, 02:13 PM

What typo? ToMorrow is leap year too (at least the beginning of it.)

Finduilas · 02-29-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I can understand your point, but I think I disagree. It was not meant to be nasty, and to be precise, it was not his/her first... okay, and seriously, and I do not have English as my first language and make about half of the typos of this thread (ok, that was exaggerating, but you get the picture

) so... I guess it's all about how seriously you take typos in general. I think they're harmless and amusing and I'm not ashamed of making them... they're just typos.

Yes indeed, but that's why I almost think we shouldn't do it to newcomers. They might not know yet just how harmless and amusing everyone finds this thread. Of course, it might just have occured to me as such since I'm partially shy and am always worried about offending people. So, again, I just hope that newcomers realize that that is so(not the previous sentence, but the one before it.

), and I think that in case they don't pick up on that immediately, we might want to wait a few weeks before doing so.

This post isn't meant as a disagreeing post, but rather as I see your point and here's what I meant, so if you take it otherwise, I may have made a typo somewhere....

Bêthberry · 03-27-2008, 09:27 AM

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These towers were only guarded by the Elves.

So I gather they were not defended as well?

A Little Green · 04-02-2008, 09:08 AM

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Really you should feel honored that we were so scarred to see what would happen if you stayed longer.

Don't know what to make of this...

Bêthberry · 06-10-2008, 11:15 AM

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I'm with you Phantom! Cats are mean, selfish, and useless addition to any household!

How Dogs think
Wow, sir! You give a home, you give me a bed to sleep in, you feed me whenever I need it, and you love me. Youmust be God!

How Dogs think
Wow, sir! You give a home, you give me a bed to sleep in, you feed me whenever I need it, and you love me. I must be God!

For some it appears easy to confuse d-o-g and g-o-d.

Mithalwen · 06-10-2008, 11:19 AM

Ah Bethberry, it is like the story of the agnostic insomniac who lay awake at nights thinking about Dog....

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 06-10-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

How embarrassing !

I'm sorry, the second line was suppose to How Cats Think, I desperately need to take a typing class.

That's OK, Groin. Typographical errors happen to everyone! And besides, you messed up on one of your most truthful posts!

Something had to go wrong...

Eönwë · 06-11-2008, 02:52 PM

Very old, but...

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But I find it very probable that Golum found the boot there, left by the Goblins that had once explored the lake before they decieded to stop the tunneling this way.

The boot? Hobbits (and Gollum) don't wear shoes!

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 06-13-2008, 11:11 PM

Whoever wrote that post also spelled Gollum incorrectly!

Bêthberry · 06-14-2008, 07:33 AM

Perhaps a few comments about this thread are in order. If I'm wrong, I'm sure Estelyn Telcontar, the thread starter, can correct me.

The point of this thread is not to finger publically the typo-ist. We don't put Downers in the stocks for public humiliation. Nor is it a public confessional where the previously anonymous Downer must contritely do a 'Hail Tolkien' and win absolution for the sin of a spelling mistake.

It's a place to enjoy with others the unexpected humour of twisted letters, the comedy of cursory, quick keyboarding. Leave sleuthing alleged offenders for the Werewolf games and just enjoy double entendres here.

Estelyn Telcontar · 06-15-2008, 12:06 PM

What Bb said...

(No naming and shaming, please, and preferably only those typos that have amusing connotations - at best, combined with your equally amusing comments and associations.)

Bêthberry · 06-24-2008, 07:58 AM

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But to deny the anit-film bias among a large crowd here is simply a denial of reality.

So there's a fair bit of nit-picking going on?

Estelyn Telcontar · 06-24-2008, 09:39 AM

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Amy Whinehouse

A typo as comment?

Thinlómien · 09-13-2008, 05:56 AM

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"I made a vein attempt to escape, but alas, Saruman proved mightier still."

Some weird trick with blood circulation, or angsty Gandalf trying to cut open his wrists?

A Little Green · 11-17-2008, 10:10 AM

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Many seers leave loud players aloud just because it's easier to read them or they might get killed and focus on the submarines...

Well, undoubtedly...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-12-2009, 10:46 AM

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we have the fire resistant masks that the dwarves whore into battle

Gosh, I hope not!

08-22-2007, 12:10 AM	#602
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,166	Light Shoes of Snow Walking + 2? __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

09-27-2007, 11:29 AM	#604
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,530	Oh dear .. he was rather an innocent in some ways cough teleporno, shagrat cough __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-27-2007, 12:54 PM	#605
Finduilas Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Home. Where rolling green hills and clear rivers are practically my backyard. Posts: 600	I'm confused... But maybe that's a good thing. __________________ One (1) book of rules and traffic regulations, which may not be bent or broken. ~ The Phantom Tollbooth

09-28-2007, 12:34 PM	#609
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,530	I agree to a point but I doubt that Orcish was so precious that Shagrat couldn't have had a different name. My sister, who sneered at Tolkien for years until she became possibly the world oldest Leggybopper nearly crashed her car when she caught that part of the BBC adaptation on the radio ..... even with the careful stress employed by the owners of Shih Tzu dogs... When one of the disparaging reviewers of CoH said that Thingol was the silliest name among Tolkien's characters I knew he probably didn't have a good knowledge of the oeuvre... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-29-2007, 09:39 AM	#611
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,750	I don't think that Shagrat would have been anything all that funny to Tolkien though? Given that there was a dance craze called The Shag in the early 60s, it must have been some time before teens started laughing at the 'other' meaning (given that teens are usually the first to pick up on rude words anyway). __________________ Gordon's alive!

08-21-2007, 08:59 AM	#601
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,499	Now that might just explain the snow-walking! We've already discussed the spiritual properties of elves, but we completely overlooked the possibility that the mystical powers belonged, not to the elf himself, but rather to his footwear! In which case, unless his jacket is similarly enlighted, elves can make snow angels.

09-29-2007, 09:43 AM	#612
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,530	I did a bit of research and it has been used in the "rude sense" since the 17th century although not always widespread ...after all in Australia, even on my first visit "too feel like a shag on a rock" mean to feel very tired like a seabird who has reached land after a very long swim ..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

01-28-2008, 03:07 PM	#616
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,530	(and I know she has a children). Must be siamese twins... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

01-31-2008, 02:54 PM	#617
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,530	Funnily enough, this is my favourite :D a mithology for England __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-28-2008, 06:56 AM	#623
Finduilas Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Home. Where rolling green hills and clear rivers are practically my backyard. Posts: 600	I feel sorry for new comers, particularly ones that have a non English first language. Considering that was his or hers first post (I beleive) you could have a little mercy. __________________ One (1) book of rules and traffic regulations, which may not be bent or broken. ~ The Phantom Tollbooth

02-28-2008, 02:13 PM	#625
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,499	What typo? ToMorrow is leap year too (at least the beginning of it.)

06-10-2008, 11:19 AM	#630
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,530	Ah Bethberry, it is like the story of the agnostic insomniac who lay awake at nights thinking about Dog.... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-13-2008, 11:11 PM	#633
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,276	Whoever wrote that post also spelled Gollum incorrectly! __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

06-14-2008, 07:33 AM	#634
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,046	Mr. Holmes need not apply Perhaps a few comments about this thread are in order. If I'm wrong, I'm sure Estelyn Telcontar, the thread starter, can correct me. The point of this thread is not to finger publically the typo-ist. We don't put Downers in the stocks for public humiliation. Nor is it a public confessional where the previously anonymous Downer must contritely do a 'Hail Tolkien' and win absolution for the sin of a spelling mistake. It's a place to enjoy with others the unexpected humour of twisted letters, the comedy of cursory, quick keyboarding. Leave sleuthing alleged offenders for the Werewolf games and just enjoy double entendres here. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

06-15-2008, 12:06 PM	#635
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,535	What Bb said... (No naming and shaming, please, and preferably only those typos that have amusing connotations - at best, combined with your equally amusing comments and associations.) __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'