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Morsul the Dark · 09-14-2006, 02:03 PM

vry close in a roundabout way

clu time

former agent
and metal head refer t roles played by actors

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-15-2006, 02:22 AM

So it is Gandalf. I'd guess that 'former agent' is 'ex man' or 'X-Man', and Metal Head is Professor X, played by Patrick Stewart. Of course Gandalf and Dynamo were played by the same actor: Sir Ian McKellan. As for nearly being an agent, I don't know enough about the X-Men universe or remember enough about the films to hazard a guess.

Morsul the Dark · 09-17-2006, 03:07 PM

corrct now i will reveal the clue as it should be read

former agent: Sean Connery was 007
Metal Head: Magneto, ian mckellen

Connery was almost cast as gandalf

squattr you're up

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-18-2006, 04:02 AM

Now, I could follow that method and invent a clue by free association, but that would never be solved. Instead, here's something that follows crossword rules. Sorry it's so easy, ladies and gents, but it's been a while.

Metal-toothed yodel finds lost musician.

Morsul the Dark · 09-22-2006, 07:04 PM

well...

metal-tothed might equal silver tounge
yodel-singer
lost musician- pendant(somehow

TOM BOMBADIL?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-25-2006, 03:54 AM

I'd never equate 'tooth' and 'tongue', since they mean different things; Tom Bombadil doesn't yodel and there's no connection between 'musician' and 'pendant' (or 'brooch') in my dictionary.

Gil-Galad · 09-25-2006, 08:23 AM

Fingon perhaps? after he found Maedhros, and we all know elves love to sing once and awhile

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-25-2006, 09:03 AM

It's not Fingon. As a bonus, it's not Maedhros either. In fact this one's a little more obscure.

Celuien · 09-25-2006, 02:19 PM

Daeron?

A lost musician who created the Cirith runes. This site says that Cirith is derived from a root meaning 'to cut' which might fit with metal tooth. But I can't figure out how to make the yodel fit.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-26-2006, 03:54 AM

I didn't know the derivation of cirith, so no. That is rather obscure, though; congratulations.

Morsul the Dark · 10-25-2006, 02:20 PM

ok....well i've got a good one
(at least for me) there is no movie trivia so dont worry

Homey, after a series of battlees, this makes for one nasty ride

Morsul the Dark · 05-14-2007, 10:28 PM

bump""""""""

Gil-Galad · 05-15-2007, 12:49 PM

hint perhaps then?

i'm thinking Gimli and Legolas, mainly because of the friendship that emrged between the two after thier travels with the fellowship

Morsul the Dark · 11-06-2007, 01:50 PM

ok a belated hint then
Homey is a synonym for a bit of slang

the straight clue is "nasty ride"

Morsul the Dark · 11-13-2007, 01:56 PM

homey is slang also known as dawg or "G"

G, after a series of battles, or a WAR
so G, after WAR makes a Nasty ride

WARGS are pretty nasty aren't they? and Goblins ride them

WARG, A nasty ride

Warg whose next...

I thought it was Straight Forward

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 10-06-2008, 06:10 AM

We could always try my last one again.

Metal-toothed yodel finds lost musician.

Mithalwen · 10-06-2008, 06:33 AM

If it is obscure it won't be Maglor who is perhaps the most famous lost muso and also I can't work him into the clue per standard crossword conventions ...

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 10-06-2008, 07:23 AM

That is very true, and it isn't Maglor. When I said 'obscure' I meant ridiculously so.

Gil-Galad · 10-29-2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh

We could always try my last one again.

Metal-toothed yodel finds lost musician.

Something makes me want to Say Beren... since he was regarded a 'yodel' to the elves of Doriath

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 02-13-2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

Something makes me want to Say Beren... since he was regarded a 'yodel' to the elves of Doriath

I think that would be 'yokel', although Túrin suffered more with his image in that regard. The clue here is pretty straightforward as cryptic clues go; it's the answer that's obscure.

Morsul the Dark · 05-05-2009, 07:27 PM

Metal toothed yodel

Orthanc- Iron Fang- Filled with sound of machines and wheels- metal toothed yodel

awakens they music of fangorn the war song the ents sing?

Annunfuiniel · 05-22-2009, 11:39 AM

Dear

, a hint, perhaps?

Morsul the Dark · 05-22-2009, 07:57 PM

or just telling me im wrong works too, and a hint....

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-05-2009, 06:52 PM

Ha! By jove, I believe that I have it.

Metal toothed = Tin Fang
Yodel = Warble

The whole = Tinfang Warble, an extremely obscure character, seemingly a Faerie piper of some kind, whom I only discovered by shamelessly trawling for metals in the index to the Book of Lost Tales ...

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-17-2010, 06:32 AM

I really am rubbish at keeping track of threads. You have the right of it, Saucepan.

Galadriel55 · 09-08-2012, 07:55 AM

I came upon this thread a couple months ago. Since then I read the entire thread and partially solved Saucy's crossword. And I feel like reviving this thread because I discovered cryptics are lots of fun. And also because perhaps this will push Saucy out of his long absence...

Ride muddled way

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-10-2012, 12:09 PM

You may not get Saucepan back, but this thread will always call me out of retirement.

I think the answer you're looking for is Arod, the horse given to Legolas by Éomer, whose name is an anagram of road.

Galadriel55 · 09-10-2012, 03:29 PM

Percisely!

Though we might not bring Sauce back, at least we might keep the Quiz forum alive - what do you think?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-10-2012, 04:09 PM

That sounds like a bit of a tall order for two people. I'll settle for this thread.

Let's see how you get on with this one.

Chieftain leads five-hundred down South

Galadriel55 · 09-10-2012, 05:28 PM

KHAND

Khan is a title for what you might call a chieftain, and 500 in Roman numerals is D. Together it makes up a land that is southeast of Mordor.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-11-2012, 12:32 AM

The very place. I'll have to start making these more difficult.

Galadriel55 · 09-11-2012, 05:27 AM

Girl comes after everyone returns, and also known as a big tragedy

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-11-2012, 06:47 AM

The tragedy is the Akallabêth, which is all and A.K.A returning, followed by a girl called Bêth.

Galadriel55 · 09-11-2012, 03:50 PM

The thread is yours, Squatter!

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-12-2012, 06:10 AM

Right you are.

French wine has girl confused about article in seaside town.

Mithalwen · 09-12-2012, 06:39 AM

Vinyamar? Located of seaside. Vin is wine in french and the rest is made of an anagram of Mary with another a which is an article.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 09-12-2012, 07:06 AM

That is good Mith!

Makes me all ashamed of my attempt to connect Nimrodel and Edhellond with the Loire Valley.

Mithalwen · 09-12-2012, 07:15 AM

I don't want to preempt Squatter but assuming I am right (and I usually do!) it follows the conventions of British crosswords so I am at advantage. Any comfort if I say I spent sometime trying to get a girls name fron YLONDE before I remembered Vinyamar?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-12-2012, 09:25 AM

It is indeed Vinyamar, and for the reason stated. It's good to see so much activity in here for a change. Over to you, Mithalwen.

Mithalwen · 09-12-2012, 10:12 AM

This won't be different enough to make much of a challenge but I am off out in about five minutes so regard it as a reinforcement exercise!

A doctor absorbs one article and a more definite French one follows one of the faithful.

09-14-2006, 02:03 PM	#801
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	vry close in a roundabout way clu time former agent and metal head refer t roles played by actors __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-15-2006, 02:22 AM	#802
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Not him again So it is Gandalf. I'd guess that 'former agent' is 'ex man' or 'X-Man', and Metal Head is Professor X, played by Patrick Stewart. Of course Gandalf and Dynamo were played by the same actor: Sir Ian McKellan. As for nearly being an agent, I don't know enough about the X-Men universe or remember enough about the films to hazard a guess. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-17-2006, 03:07 PM	#803
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	corrct now i will reveal the clue as it should be read former agent: Sean Connery was 007 Metal Head: Magneto, ian mckellen Connery was almost cast as gandalf squattr you're up __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-18-2006, 04:02 AM	#804
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Leaving film trivia behind us Now, I could follow that method and invent a clue by free association, but that would never be solved. Instead, here's something that follows crossword rules. Sorry it's so easy, ladies and gents, but it's been a while. Metal-toothed yodel finds lost musician. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 09-19-2006 at 04:03 AM.

09-22-2006, 07:04 PM	#805
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	well... metal-tothed might equal silver tounge yodel-singer lost musician- pendant(somehow TOM BOMBADIL? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-25-2006, 03:54 AM	#806
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Not him, I'm afraid. I'd never equate 'tooth' and 'tongue', since they mean different things; Tom Bombadil doesn't yodel and there's no connection between 'musician' and 'pendant' (or 'brooch') in my dictionary. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-25-2006, 08:23 AM	#807
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 5,054	Fingon perhaps? after he found Maedhros, and we all know elves love to sing once and awhile __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

09-25-2006, 09:03 AM	#808
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Keep looking It's not Fingon. As a bonus, it's not Maedhros either. In fact this one's a little more obscure. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-25-2006, 02:19 PM	#809
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,795	Daeron? A lost musician who created the Cirith runes. This site says that Cirith is derived from a root meaning 'to cut' which might fit with metal tooth. But I can't figure out how to make the yodel fit. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

09-26-2006, 03:54 AM	#810
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Not that, I'm afraid I didn't know the derivation of cirith, so no. That is rather obscure, though; congratulations. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

10-25-2006, 02:20 PM	#811
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	ok....well i've got a good one (at least for me) there is no movie trivia so dont worry Homey, after a series of battlees, this makes for one nasty ride __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

05-14-2007, 10:28 PM	#812
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	bump"""""""" __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

05-15-2007, 12:49 PM	#813
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 5,054	hint perhaps then? i'm thinking Gimli and Legolas, mainly because of the friendship that emrged between the two after thier travels with the fellowship __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

11-06-2007, 01:50 PM	#814
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	ok a belated hint then Homey is a synonym for a bit of slang the straight clue is "nasty ride" __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-13-2007, 01:56 PM	#815
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	homey is slang also known as dawg or "G" G, after a series of battles, or a WAR so G, after WAR makes a Nasty ride WARGS are pretty nasty aren't they? and Goblins ride them WARG, A nasty ride Warg whose next... I thought it was Straight Forward __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

10-06-2008, 06:10 AM	#816
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Blast from the past We could always try my last one again. Metal-toothed yodel finds lost musician. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

10-06-2008, 06:33 AM	#817
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,916	If it is obscure it won't be Maglor who is perhaps the most famous lost muso and also I can't work him into the clue per standard crossword conventions ... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-06-2008, 07:23 AM	#818
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Obscurity That is very true, and it isn't Maglor. When I said 'obscure' I meant ridiculously so. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

05-05-2009, 07:27 PM	#821
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	Metal toothed yodel Orthanc- Iron Fang- Filled with sound of machines and wheels- metal toothed yodel awakens they music of fangorn the war song the ents sing? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

05-22-2009, 11:39 AM	#822
Annunfuiniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Something close like Shire Posts: 775	Dear , a hint, perhaps? __________________ Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt.

05-22-2009, 07:57 PM	#823
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,502	or just telling me im wrong works too, and a hint.... __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

10-05-2009, 06:52 PM	#824
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Ha! By jove, I believe that I have it. Metal toothed = Tin Fang Yodel = Warble The whole = Tinfang Warble, an extremely obscure character, seemingly a Faerie piper of some kind, whom I only discovered by shamelessly trawling for metals in the index to the Book of Lost Tales ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-17-2010, 06:32 AM	#825
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Fashionably late again I really am rubbish at keeping track of threads. You have the right of it, Saucepan. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-08-2012, 07:55 AM	#826
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,308	I came upon this thread a couple months ago. Since then I read the entire thread and partially solved Saucy's crossword. And I feel like reviving this thread because I discovered cryptics are lots of fun. And also because perhaps this will push Saucy out of his long absence... Ride muddled way __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 09-08-2012 at 09:50 AM. Reason: spelling...the bane of all posts

09-10-2012, 12:09 PM	#827
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Be careful what ancient powers you invoke You may not get Saucepan back, but this thread will always call me out of retirement. I think the answer you're looking for is Arod, the horse given to Legolas by Éomer, whose name is an anagram of road. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-10-2012, 03:29 PM	#828
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,308	Percisely! Though we might not bring Sauce back, at least we might keep the Quiz forum alive - what do you think? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-10-2012, 04:09 PM	#829
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	That sounds like a bit of a tall order for two people. I'll settle for this thread. Let's see how you get on with this one. Chieftain leads five-hundred down South __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-10-2012, 05:28 PM	#830
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,308	I think my best guess so far is... KHAND Khan is a title for what you might call a chieftain, and 500 in Roman numerals is D. Together it makes up a land that is southeast of Mordor. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-11-2012, 12:32 AM	#831
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	The very place. I'll have to start making these more difficult. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-11-2012, 05:27 AM	#832
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,308	Girl comes after everyone returns, and also known as a big tragedy __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-11-2012, 06:47 AM	#833
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	The tragedy is the Akallabêth, which is all and A.K.A returning, followed by a girl called Bêth. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-11-2012, 03:50 PM	#834
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,308	The thread is yours, Squatter! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-12-2012, 06:10 AM	#835
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,206	Right you are. French wine has girl confused about article in seaside town. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-12-2012, 06:39 AM	#836
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,916	Vinyamar? Located of seaside. Vin is wine in french and the rest is made of an anagram of Mary with another a which is an article. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-12-2012, 07:15 AM	#838
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,916	I don't want to preempt Squatter but assuming I am right (and I usually do!) it follows the conventions of British crosswords so I am at advantage. Any comfort if I say I spent sometime trying to get a girls name fron YLONDE before I remembered Vinyamar? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace