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Old 05-27-2020, 01:25 PM   #9761
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1. Maytime, more or less – but now tertiary in Gondor?
HALE (STILL): The magnificent one is constant. And hearty. Remains so at his final summons.
EVENDIM (LAKE): Flat and subdued? A waterside billet – temporary, but kingly.
4. Troubled? Yes, we hear she’s a convicted murderer.
OLD TOBY: The main hero of a botanical tome?
UNDERTOWERS: Here, beneath Orthanc and Cirith Ungol?
7. Flipping heck! Roheryn’s mate for a festival? Translate!
TOLMAN COTTON: Island chap – good material for a temporary mayor?
HOLDWINE: Keep the champagne and the claret! Rohan calls you once more!
ANDUIN: Alternative route to paradise for the final two. (Well, part of it. Arguably).
GOLDILOCKS: A bride fit for a future Thain?
12. Trumpet loses one note, to gain two more and reveal him.

You want a more 'poetic' word for a trumpet, G55.
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:09 PM   #9762
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You want a more 'poetic' word for a trumpet, G55.
Clarion instead? Lose the C, add E + D and get Eldarion?
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:33 PM   #9763
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1. Maytime, more or less – but now tertiary in Gondor?
HALE (STILL): The magnificent one is constant. And hearty. Remains so at his final summons.
EVENDIM (LAKE): Flat and subdued? A waterside billet – temporary, but kingly.
4. Troubled? Yes, we hear she’s a convicted murderer.
OLD TOBY: The main hero of a botanical tome?
UNDERTOWERS: Here, beneath Orthanc and Cirith Ungol?
7. Flipping heck! Roheryn’s mate for a festival? Translate!
TOLMAN COTTON: Island chap – good material for a temporary mayor?
HOLDWINE: Keep the champagne and the claret! Rohan calls you once more!
ANDUIN: Alternative route to paradise for the final two. (Well, part of it. Arguably).
GOLDILOCKS: A bride fit for a future Thain?
ELDARION: Trumpet loses one note, to gain two more and reveal him.

Precisely correct!

And 'clarion' features in loads of poems and prose, I am sure, but this is my favourite usage of it:

'Enough! the Resurrection,
A heart’s-clarion! Away grief’s gasping, | joyless days, dejection.
Across my foundering deck shone
A beacon, an eternal beam. | Flesh fade, and mortal trash
Fall to the residuary worm; | world’s wildfire, leave but ash:
In a flash, at a trumpet crash,
I am all at once what Christ is, | since he was what I am, and
This Jack, joke, poor potsherd, | patch, matchwood, immortal diamond,
Is immortal diamond.'


From 'That Nature is a Heraclitean Fire and of the Comfort of the Resurrection' by Gerard Manley Hopkins.
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:54 PM   #9764
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:20 PM   #9765
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T: Maytime, more or less – but now tertiary in Gondor?
HALE (STILL): The magnificent one is constant. And hearty. Remains so at his final summons.
EVENDIM (LAKE): Flat and subdued? A waterside billet – temporary, but kingly.

F: Troubled? Yes, we hear she’s a convicted murderer.
OLD TOBY: The main hero of a botanical tome?
UNDERTOWERS: Here, beneath Orthanc and Cirith Ungol?
R: Flipping heck! Roheryn’s mate for a festival? Translate!
TOLMAN COTTON: Island chap – good material for a temporary mayor?
HOLDWINE: Keep the champagne and the claret! Rohan calls you once more!

ANDUIN: Alternative route to paradise for the final two. (Well, part of it. Arguably).
GOLDILOCKS: A bride fit for a future Thain?
ELDARION: Trumpet loses one note, to gain two more and reveal him.

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You stole my series...

Password: The Fourth Age.
You had your chance.

I wanted to see if the 4th Age could be done.

Inspired partly by your 3 Ages and partly by a clue of Huey's which led to a hint about there being strictly 4 of something but most people think of there being 3. I can't remember the theme of that password offhand.
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Old 05-28-2020, 09:58 AM   #9766
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Aww the password was guessed. I wanted to see how long we could get all the right letters in without one of us admitting to clearly knowing the answer.

I am totally stumped on the last clues I must admit. The Maytime one feels like it should be a month or a date at least but I'm not good enough with the calendars to figure it out. And I've got nothing for F or R.
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Old 05-28-2020, 10:16 AM   #9767
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Aww the password was guessed. I wanted to see how long we could get all the right letters in without one of us admitting to clearly knowing the answer.

I am totally stumped on the last clues I must admit. The Maytime one feels like it should be a month or a date at least but I'm not good enough with the calendars to figure it out. And I've got nothing for F or R.
Two of the remaining clues refer to changes made in Gondor after the destruction of the Ring. One is a new holiday that is established. The other is a change to when the New Year begins.

The Shire, though, implemented neither of those changes. 'A prophet is never appreciated in his own country.'

So if it was the tertiary month in Gondor, what month would it probably be in a Fourth Age Shire?

Regarding Old Toby: he lived in the Third Age, but the clue refers to a book in which he features, and that book was written in the Fourth Age.
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Old 05-28-2020, 10:30 AM   #9768
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Two of the remaining clues refer to changes made in Gondor after the destruction of the Ring. One is a new holiday that is established. The other is a change to when the New Year begins.

The Shire, though, implemented neither of those changes. 'A prophet is never appreciated in his own country.'

So if it was the tertiary month in Gondor, what month would it probably be in a Fourth Age Shire?
Ok .... so could R be Ringday? And the month could be Thrimidge.
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Old 05-28-2020, 10:49 AM   #9769
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THRIMIDGE: Maytime, more or less – but now tertiary in Gondor?
HALE (STILL): The magnificent one is constant. And hearty. Remains so at his final summons.
EVENDIM (LAKE): Flat and subdued? A waterside billet – temporary, but kingly.

F: Troubled? Yes, we hear she’s a convicted murderer.
OLD TOBY: The main hero of a botanical tome?
UNDERTOWERS: Here, beneath Orthanc and Cirith Ungol?
RINGDAY (CORMARE): Flipping heck! Roheryn’s mate for a festival? Translate!
TOLMAN COTTON: Island chap – good material for a temporary mayor?
HOLDWINE: Keep the champagne and the claret! Rohan calls you once more!

ANDUIN: Alternative route to paradise for the final two. (Well, part of it. Arguably).
GOLDILOCKS: A bride fit for a future Thain?
ELDARION: Trumpet loses one note, to gain two more and reveal him.

Flipping heck = COR!
Roheryn's* mate is a MARE!
Translate it = RINGDAY.

And Arod's. And Asfaloth's. And probably Fatty Lumpkin's as well. I just chose Roheryn. Are there any named mares in Tolkien's books?

One to go!
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Old 05-28-2020, 11:16 AM   #9770
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Oh! Cormare is great! I was thinking of actual names for the mate for Roheryn. So I'm trying to look up the names of the horses the Rangers brought, and then I'm trying to work out how Hasufel could fit because that would be a mate in terms of a pair of horses Aragorn rides. You can see why I wasn't getting anywhere!
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Old 05-28-2020, 03:13 PM   #9771
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F: Troubled? Yes, we hear she’s a convicted murderer.

The main cryptic element is what someone is or becomes *when* they're convicted for murder.
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I've been percolating but got nowhere.

Prisoner? Imprisoned.

Troubled: flustered, fearful, frightened.

And the she is really throwing me off. At one point I was thinking Fastred because it could be that flustered 'we hear' sounds like Fastred but I can't see how that would connect with the rest of the clue.
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Someone who's gone down for murder is serving such a long sentence that they're a ...

The 'someone' is very close to Fastred.
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... a lifer?

If they're very close to Fastred I'd be guessing Elanor.
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'Lifer' is correct.

Now, how about the sound of another word for yes, and a bit of troubling?
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I can't get the thing about yes, but working backwards - because I think the answer is Firiel - the troubling bit could be that they yell.
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THRIMIDGE: Maytime, more or less – but now tertiary in Gondor?
HALE (STILL): The magnificent one is constant. And hearty. Remains so at his final summons.
EVENDIM (LAKE): Flat and subdued? A waterside billet – temporary, but kingly.

FIRIEL: Troubled? Yes, we hear she’s a convicted murderer.
OLD TOBY: The main hero of a botanical tome?
UNDERTOWERS: Here, beneath Orthanc and Cirith Ungol?
RINGDAY (CORMARE): Flipping heck! Roheryn’s mate for a festival? Translate!
TOLMAN COTTON: Island chap – good material for a temporary mayor?
HOLDWINE: Keep the champagne and the claret! Rohan calls you once more!

ANDUIN: Alternative route to paradise for the final two. (Well, part of it. Arguably).
GOLDILOCKS: A bride fit for a future Thain?
ELDARION: Trumpet loses one note, to gain two more and reveal him.

LIFER plus I (homophone of 'aye').

Mix it up to get FIRIEL. 'Troubled' is an anagram indicator.

Well done, everyone!

And over to Urwen!
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