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Old 12-27-2002, 11:36 PM   #1
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Silmaril Best Line/Worst Line TTT Style

I was a big fan of <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001035" TARGET=_blank>Firondoiel's thread</A> for FotR, so I thought I'd start one for TTT.<P>For those who don't know, the point of this is to vote for what you thought a certain character's best line and worst line was. You can pick more than one for each if you have lots of favorites or ones you hated, but if you do, please rank them. What I'm going to do is add up the votes and post what the consensus is. C'mon, it'll be fun!<P>To avoid confusion, let's have some simple rules to follow:<P><UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI> We only vote on one character at a time.<BR><LI> You wait for me to tally up the votes and pick a new character instead of going onto a new character without me (not beause I'm power-tripping; that's just the way Firondoiel did it!)<BR><LI> Try to post as complete a quote as possible.<BR></UL><P>If you don't get what I'm rambling about, just click on the link and you'll see. <P>So let's start with <B>Samwise Gamgee</B>.<P>PS Remember, only TTT lines, I won't count it if it was from FotR.
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:27 AM   #2
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I think Sams best line was when Faramir asked him if he was Frodo's body guard and he said, "His gardener." I thought that was a good line.
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Old 12-28-2002, 12:33 PM   #3
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I don't know if this counts, but for Sam's best line, can I vote for his soliloquy about why people should fight against the odds to protect the good left in the earth?<p>[ December 28, 2002: Message edited by: aragornreborn ]
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Old 12-28-2002, 12:46 PM   #4
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His worst one was when he said "...Some chips and a piece of fried fish." Mainly because I can't imagine Hobbit's eating Chips.
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:02 PM   #5
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he didn't mean chips like we know them, he meant chips as in small hunks of potatos that they would cut and eat with their meals! not like Lays chips or anything lol
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Best line:<P>Sam: I don't think Gandalf meant for us to come this way.<BR>Sam: Samwise the Brave.<P>I think I need to see the movie again
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:21 PM   #7
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I agree with Faye Took! "His gardener." was sams' best line!!!!!
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Ha ha! I absolutely LOVED this part: <P>Faramir: And who are you? His body guard?<BR>Sam: His gardener.
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Er...don't we need to think of a worst line? Let me see...how bout...I don't know...
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Old 12-28-2002, 04:09 PM   #10
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You're doing good so far! I'm going to cast my votes Monday after seeing it again and then I'll tally it up for you'all. Keep posting in the meantime!
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Old 12-28-2002, 04:52 PM   #11
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Yeah, i'd have to say the gardener line too!
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Old 12-28-2002, 05:41 PM   #12
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What a difficult character, Sam. He has tons of wonderful lines, and at least at the moment I can't think of a single bad one! <BR>Hmm,let's see...<BR>Nope, I still can't think of a bad line! Come on guys, there's got to be even one...Where have all the anti-TTT people gone?! <BR>Anyways, my favourites are: <BR>"Don't you recognise your Sam?" ( for obvious reasons...)<BR>and that potatoes-thing. Could anyone quote it for me?<p>[ December 28, 2002: Message edited by: Nenya ]
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Oh! I'd like to change my answer: The part where Sam is talking to Frodo about being in stories! That was so sweet!
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BEST LINE "their my freinds"<P>WORST LINE "you dont have any friends"
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Old 12-28-2002, 06:50 PM   #15
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I'm english so chips are cut up pieces of potatoe to me not Crips....(Oh it hard in a world where words mean different things to different people isnt it?) I still can't see him eating chips that's why I hate that line, but I love all the other part you know boil 'em, mash 'em, put 'em in a stew. But no chips(fries)!
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Sam's best line: "His gardener."<BR>Worst line: That whole crappy preachy speech at the end of the film
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Old 12-28-2002, 08:53 PM   #17
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Sam's best line was: "PO-TA-TOES!"
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YES! PO-TA-TOES was definately the best line ever! I almost fell out of my seat I was laughing so hard.
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I agree about the potatoes thing
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For Sam's best line in TTT I am partial to these:<P><UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>The potatoes bit with Gollum<LI>I loved "His gardener..." response to Faramir<LI>"Don't you recognize your Sam?" (gosh that'll make you cry right there!)<LI>And finally I LOVED Sam's speech at the end of the movie and it really got me going when I saw that he was crying!</UL><P><I>*sighs*</I><P>I <B>LOVE</B> that hobbit!<P>Man, Sean Astin really was a wonderful choice to play dear sweet loyal Sam!<P><I>*sighs*</I>
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Best Lines:<P>Grima: "That would take an army of thousands.."<BR>Saruman: "Tens of thousands.."<P>Worst Line:<P>Legolas: "A red sun rising, means blood has been spilled!" >:P
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Ar-Gilien we're just doing Sam's lines at the moment, wait till Diamond changes the person.<BR>I loved 'his gardener' and that whole bit about them being in stories, that was so sweet!
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Ooops, my mistake. Just read the thread title, said best/worst lines of TTT. Ah well...I would say that the best line of Sam's would have to be when he's talking to Frodo in the forest, about being put into a song.
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"his gardener" was truly great. <P>I also liked.<P>"It's your sam. Don't you recognize your sam?"<P>and...<P>"But there is no such army, my lord!" by Wormtounge. lol.
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I agree with Pookabunny, Elvenglass, and Zacattack with the whole PO-TA-TOEs thang, i also liked the gardener and the "Lets hear about frodo and the ring" story bit, i almost cried (alright i did), but the potatoes thing is the best. Didn't like sam bein so horrible 2 Smeagol though (not gollum, sam can kick his skinny *** as much as he wants for all i care) because Smeagol was kinda sweet.
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Best:<BR>"His gardener"<P>Worst:<BR>"You're 'opeless" (to Gollum) But even that line wasn't bad, just not as good as the others.
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Best: "His gardener!"<P>Worst: hmmm.....I'm not going to be helpful here Diamond, there was no bad Sam line.
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Sam's best lines (i cant put jsut one) were "PO-TA-TOES", "Samwise the brave...", and "His GARDENER!" hee hee, those were the best!<BR>Worst line? hmm, cant really think of any. The only part i didnt like was when Sam was being so mean to Smeagol (NOT GOLLUM) because Smeagol was pretty nice.
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Best:<BR>1. Sam: "I'm his gardener"<BR>2. Sam's speech at the end<P>Sort of worst:<BR>Although i love Legolas oh so much..his "a red sun rises, blood has been spilled this day" comment was totally random. They should have fit it into the story a bit better
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oops..disregard the Legolas comment..i forgot that we were only doing Sam
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Best lines:<P>Both speeches at the end.<BR>"it's your Sam. Don't you know your Sam?"<BR>and basically anything he said throughout the course of the movie. <P>Worst line:<P>"you can't save him, Mr. Frodo." It wasn't badly said or anything, it's just that Sam didn't realize that he was also referring to Frodo in an obscure way.<P>Sam's the best
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I do have to agree with the gardner part, but with the whole potatoes thing I liked when he said "Fry them mash them, stick them in a stew".
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I really don't think Sam had any bad lines in TT. Sean Astin made him sound really good so I don't think he had a worst line.
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If he HAD to have a worst line, it would have to be "I don't believe you!" when Gollum is swearing by the Ring. But still think that was a cool line because it shows that he doesn't think Gollum is trustworthy.
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Best line: "His gardener" <BR>Worst: "Don't you know your Sam?" <p>[ December 29, 2002: Message edited by: Barodir ]
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I also love the "gardener line". Also the line where he talks about them being put into story .<BR>Another fav was the his speech at the end "It's just like the great stories, Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were." And the part where he says roughly something like "We shouldn't even be here, but here we are" <BR>I only know some parts of the speech unfortunetly. <BR>Does anyone know the whole thing?? <P>I guess if i had to pick a worst line it would be "I don't trust you!" to Gollum. Not because it was that bad or anything, it just seemed really sudden.
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The only place I can find any quotes from TTT is <A HREF="http://us.imdb.com/Quotes?0167261" TARGET=_blank>here,</A> and it has hardly any. So anyway, I just got back from seeing it today, and I already can't remember the quotes exactly. When will the script be available?<P>But my votes are:<P><UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI> "I wonder if we'll be put into any stories. 'Let's here about Frodo and the Ring!' 'Yes, that's one of my favorites. Frodo was very brave, wasn't he, Dad?' 'Yes, my boy, the famousest of the hobbits, and that's saying a lot.'"<BR><LI> The speech at Osgiliath, which I can't remember entirely, but it ends "There's good in the world, and it's worth fighting for."<BR><LI> "Po-tat-toes...boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew."<BR><LI> "Oh, Lembas bread! And look, how lovely, <I>more</I> Lembas bread."<BR><LI> "His gardener."<BR></UL><P>His worst was "I don't believe you!" Not that he should believe Gollum, but it was too violent and vicious sounding.<P>So now I'm going to count 'em, mash 'em, and stick 'em in a stew and tell you all the results.
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Alrighty. The consesus is:<P>Sam's Best: "His gardener."<P><BR>Sam's Worst: "I don't believe you!"<P>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<P>For our next character, let's do <B>Faramir</B>. For me, it's pretty easy.<P>My votes:<P>Best: "Then it [my life] is forfeit."<P>Worst:<BR><UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI> "The Ring is going to Gondor."<BR><LI> "Take them to my father. Tell him I send a mighty gift."<BR></UL>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I only know some parts of the speech unfortunetly. <BR>Does anyone know the whole thing?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Fortunately, I fell in love with that speech and have memorized it:<P>It's just like the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end, because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's just a passing thing, this shadow. Even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines, it'll shine out the clearer. Those were the ones that stayed with you, that meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going, because they were holding on to something. [Frodo: What are we holding on to, Sam?] That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for.<P>*takes a bow* Once you've seen it six times, it's not that hard (sorry, I know I'm bragging) Sorry if that was a bit off topic, Diamond<P>Faramir-<P>Best line: He was my brother (with the small cracking in the voice )<P>Worst line: ...a chance for Faramir, Captain of Gondor, to show his quality...
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Faramir's best line:'I think finally, you and I understand each other' or something like that, he says it to Frodo in Osgiliath.<BR>and 'Then it is forfeit'<BR>Worst: '...a chance for Faramir, Captain of Gondor, to show his quality...'
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