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05-04-2003, 12:06 AM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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Sons of Elrond???
I've been watching FOTR for the gazillionth time and I notice two Elves at the Council of Elrond I have never noticed before....<P>In the part where Aragorn says to Frodo "If by my life or death..." etc. you can see an Elf standing besides him and from the brief glimpse of him I'd say this Elf looked *like* he could be the son of Elrond. What is more when they show the wide shot of Aragorn kneeling in front of Frodo you can see another Elf standing beside the Elf that was beside Aragorn and from the back they certainly LOOK alike.<P>So my question is: Could these have been the sons of Elrond and if so, will we see them in ROTK?<P>~~*~~<BR>'I have a sword,' said Merry, climbing from his seat, and drawing from its black sheath his small bright blade. Filled suddenly with love for this old man, he knelt on one knee, and took his hand and kissed it. 'May I lay the sword of Meriadoc of the Shire on your lap, Théoden King?' he cried, 'Receive my service, if you will!'<P>'Gladly will I take it,' said the king; and laying his old hands upon the brown hair of the hobbit, he blessed him. 'Rise now, Meriadoc, esquire of Rohan of the household of Meduseld.' he said. 'Take your sword and bear it unto good fortune!'<P>'As a father you shall be to me,' said Merry.<P>'For a little while,' said Théoden.<P>Merry and Théoden<BR>The Passing of the Grey Company<BR>LOTR: The Return of the King<P>~~*~~<BR>Visit the RingLeaders Fanfic Archive at: <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/ringleaders7/RL.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/ringleaders7/RL.html</A><p>[ May 04, 2003: Message edited by: Arathiriel ]
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05-04-2003, 12:50 AM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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NO they werent Elladan and Elrohir... If you go a few pages back i posted a thread the same as this question.
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05-04-2003, 06:03 AM
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Denethor's True Love
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Don't know which elves you mean, but with Elladan and Elrohir, I'm thinking of the two elves sat either side of Elrond. I'm hoping they feature in Rotk, although I doubt they will in the end.
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05-04-2003, 10:50 AM
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The Diaphanous Dryad
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I thought they were. I wonder will Aragorn's kin from the north come into it at all? I really hope they do, but I doubt it.
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05-04-2003, 01:44 PM
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Well, they DID gave Sauron a part in it, and he is totaly unimportant right? I mean, I have not read the books, but I don't think he is doing somehting majore.
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05-05-2003, 08:40 AM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Unfortunately, Meela dear, The dark-haird elf at Elrond's umm....left hand is Erestor, who is menntioned a few times in the book as Elrond's head councillor. If they were smart they would have put Glorfindel on his other side, oh well. <P> I have a suspicion that "Figwit" and his little friend that are sitting next to Aragorn are actually supposed to be Elladan and Elrohir, Elrond's sons. That makes sense because the twins and Aragorn hung out together quite a bit.
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05-05-2003, 09:12 AM
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Denethor's True Love
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Good point. I hereby declare Figwit to be Elrohir. Suits him.
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05-05-2003, 03:03 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Hm. Figwit looks more like an Elladan to me...<P>Aside, I do hope that Elladan and Elrohir are in RotK. I don't know why, but I've always really liked those two. I hope PJ had the good sense to put them in.<p>[ May 05, 2003: Message edited by: Sapphire_Flame ]
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05-05-2003, 05:37 PM
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Haunting Spirit
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I doubt heavily that any of the Rangers will ride south, for sadly the movie only mentions Gondor, not Arnor. The sons of Elrond may ride south, but I am doubting it right now.
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05-05-2003, 10:21 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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Elladan & Elrohir have always been two of my favorite characters, and I was really hoping to see them in at least one of the films. Since they weren't in the first two (or at least not identified to the audience), I hope they'll be in the third. If nothing else, they could show up with Elrond for their sister's wedding.
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05-06-2003, 04:59 PM
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Animated Skeleton
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Well the person behind Aragorn is Figwit a.k.a. Figwit the pouter, and Figwit the hotter than Legolas.
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05-07-2003, 08:37 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Figwit is purely an internet creation. What everyone is calling Figwit could certainly be one of Elrond's sons.<P>H.C.
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05-07-2003, 08:59 AM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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From his fanpage... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Q: I heard he is actually one of Elrond's sons -Elladan or Elrohir. Is this true?<BR>A: According to the Decipher card release, Elrond's sons are not the two sitting on either side of him at the Council. Though Elladan and Elrohir were in Rivendell during the council, we cannot say for sure *where* they were, so it remains a possibility. So we can still dream about him being one of Elrond's sons. Surely his gorgeousness befits a son of Elrond! <BR> <BR> Q: What about the possibility of him being Galdor, Erestor or Glorfindel?<BR>A: No <BR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It then continues to give up photos of Galdor and Erestor, who both look dorky as I thought Elves could not be <P>~Menelien<P><BR>Edit: And Glorfindel is a blonde.<p>[ May 07, 2003: Message edited by: GaladrieloftheOlden ]
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05-11-2003, 11:16 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> But her brothers, Elladan and Elrohir, were out upon errantry: for they rode often far afield with the Rangers of the North, forgetting never their mother's torment in the dens of the orcs. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Elladan and Elrohir were not in Rivendell at the time of the Council of Elrond. Peter Jackson placing them there would not have surprised me, but if he had, they would've said something or been introduced at the least. These are the grandsons of Galadriel and the brothers of Arwen - surely they were more attractive than those notably dorky looking elves present at the Council. If they're included, I imagine they'll be played by younger actors too.
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05-12-2003, 12:15 AM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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Well Legolas I will continue to hope that we will see Elladan and Elrohir in ROTK until I see the end credits of that movie...
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05-12-2003, 05:31 AM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I tell you what, Elladan and Elrohir better be in it, or there will be hell to pay!!!!!
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05-12-2003, 10:28 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR><BR>---------------------------------------------<P>But her brothers, Elladan and Elrohir, were out upon errantry: for they rode often far afield with the Rangers of the North, forgetting never their mother's torment in the dens of the orcs.<BR> <BR>---------------------------------------------<P>Elladan and Elrohir were not in Rivendell at the time of the Council of Elrond. Peter Jackson placing them there would not have surprised me, but if he had, they would've said something or been introduced at the least. These are the grandsons of Galadriel and the brothers of Arwen - surely they were more attractive than those notably dorky looking elves present at the Council. If they're included, I imagine they'll be played by younger actors too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><B>Legolas:</B> Actually, they <B>were</B> there for the Council, just not for the feast. Afterwards, in the Hall of Fire, Strider tells Bilbo: "I know," he said. "But often I must put mirth aside. Elladan and Elrohir have returned out of the Wild unlooked-for, and they had tidings that I wished to hear at once."
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05-13-2003, 09:55 PM
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A Northern Soul
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Ah...true, my mistake. But not in the Council, as the topic is wondering.
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05-13-2003, 09:59 PM
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You guys, I agree with all your choices but I've definatly heard rumers there will be no scouring of the shire. Oh well, i think that one little detail I'm afraid will be overlooked is that during one of the battles after Aragorn and his companions travel the Path of the Dead, Legolas is supposed to hear the cry of a seagull. I know it's just a little detail but PJ is going to pay if he leaves it out
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05-15-2003, 05:24 AM
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HOLD UP HOLD UP!!! Back up here. Did no one notice the wierd and random post of Helkahothion? <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Well, they DID gave Sauron a part in it, and he is totaly unimportant right? I mean, I have not read the books, but I don't think he is doing somehting majore. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>was that a joke or something that i tooooooootally missed hmmm just wierd thats all.<P><BR>Okay anyway i highly doubt that those two random eves are supposed to be Elladan and Elrohir the reason being that they don't really look the same at all, nevermind them being twins.
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05-15-2003, 07:41 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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Has anyone else heard that "Figwit", or whatever you want to call him, is the son of Viggo in real life?
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05-16-2003, 12:45 AM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Viggo's son is Henry, and he was 12 when LORT was made... Figwit is a NZ guy called Brett something or other...
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05-16-2003, 04:36 AM
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Apparently Viggo had another son who was in his 20's or something. Also apparently, he has been married 3 times. We only here about Henry, and I doubt he has other kids.
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05-17-2003, 01:05 AM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Meela I can understand that... I wuld like to meet this 20something son of his... very much so...
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05-17-2003, 07:44 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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The more I watch the Council of Elronf scene the more convinced I am that the two Elves I thought were Elladan and Elrohir <B>are</B> them!<P>There are various times throughout the scene you can get a good look at them and until we know for sure otherwise I choose to think that those two Elves are the sons of Elrond!<P>
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05-21-2003, 01:39 PM
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Quoth the Raven<BR>FIGWIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <BR>Nevrmore
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