What is Merry's history? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Annantar · 01-09-2004, 09:39 PM

Whenever I try to find Merry's history, I can never find it. They always give me the history of Pippin of any other one of the fellowship but his is the one that I can never seem to come across. If you know, please tell me. THANKS!

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 1:55 PM January 10, 2004: Message edited by: Legolas ]

Man of the Old Hope · 01-10-2004, 12:51 PM

In the 'canonical' works Tolkien gives us about as much information on Merry as he does Pippin.

Consult Tale of Years in the Appendix B of The Lord of the Rings, under "Later Events Concerning the Members of the Fellowship of the Ring"

In S.R. 1432, "Meriadoc, called the Magnificent, becomes Master of Buckland. Great gifts are sent to him by King Éomer and the Lady Éowyn of Ithilien."

In S.R. 1434, "Peregrin becomes the Took and Thain. King Elessar makes the Thain [Peregrin], the Master [Meriadoc], and the Mayor [Samwise] Counsellors of the North-kingdom.

The longest entry for Merry comes in S.R. 1484:

"In the spring of the year a message came from Rohan to Buckland that King Éomer wished to see Master Holdwine once again. Meriadoc was then old (102) but still hale. He took counsel with his friend the Thain, and soon after they handed over their goods and offices to their sons and rode away over Sarn Ford, and they were not seen again in the Shire. It was heard after that Master Meriadoc came to Edoras and was with King Éomer before he died in that autumn. Then he and Thain Peregrin went to Gondor and passed what short years were left to them in that realm, until they died and were laid in the Rath Dínen among the great of Gondor."

Though perhaps I misapprehend your question, that you're actually asking for Merry's history before LOTR commences?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 1:53 PM January 10, 2004: Message edited by: Man of the Old Hope ]

Finwe · 01-10-2004, 01:12 PM

I believe that Man of the Old Hope is right. The only "history" of Merry that we are given is present in the Appendices and in the Tale of Years. It has information like what Man included above along with Merry's birthday, and suchlike. Unfortunately, Tolkien didn't give us much information on what Merry did before LotR.

Lord of Angmar · 01-10-2004, 01:38 PM

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Unfortunately, Tolkien didn't give us much information on what Merry did before LotR.

My guess would be that he lived an ordinary, simple, hobbitish life, until he came to know about Mr. Bilbo and his ring and started snooping....

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Annantar · 01-10-2004, 11:37 PM

Oooo I'm sorry. I did mean the history after Lotr. if u know thanx.

Lalaith · 01-11-2004, 08:05 AM

These threads may help! http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=000925
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=003232

01-09-2004, 09:39 PM	#1
Annantar Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: I have no idea Posts: 13	What is Merry's history? Whenever I try to find Merry's history, I can never find it. They always give me the history of Pippin of any other one of the fellowship but his is the one that I can never seem to come across. If you know, please tell me. THANKS! <font size=1 color=339966>[ 1:55 PM January 10, 2004: Message edited by: Legolas ] __________________ I'm a sneaky little Hobbit!

01-10-2004, 12:51 PM	#2
Man of the Old Hope Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beleriand Posts: 21	In the 'canonical' works Tolkien gives us about as much information on Merry as he does Pippin. Consult Tale of Years in the Appendix B of The Lord of the Rings, under "Later Events Concerning the Members of the Fellowship of the Ring" In S.R. 1432, "Meriadoc, called the Magnificent, becomes Master of Buckland. Great gifts are sent to him by King Éomer and the Lady Éowyn of Ithilien." In S.R. 1434, "Peregrin becomes the Took and Thain. King Elessar makes the Thain [Peregrin], the Master [Meriadoc], and the Mayor [Samwise] Counsellors of the North-kingdom. The longest entry for Merry comes in S.R. 1484: "In the spring of the year a message came from Rohan to Buckland that King Éomer wished to see Master Holdwine once again. Meriadoc was then old (102) but still hale. He took counsel with his friend the Thain, and soon after they handed over their goods and offices to their sons and rode away over Sarn Ford, and they were not seen again in the Shire. It was heard after that Master Meriadoc came to Edoras and was with King Éomer before he died in that autumn. Then he and Thain Peregrin went to Gondor and passed what short years were left to them in that realm, until they died and were laid in the Rath Dínen among the great of Gondor." Though perhaps I misapprehend your question, that you're actually asking for Merry's history before LOTR commences? <font size=1 color=339966>[ 1:53 PM January 10, 2004: Message edited by: Man of the Old Hope ] __________________ 'They say,' answered Andreth: 'they say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end.'

01-10-2004, 01:12 PM	#3
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I believe that Man of the Old Hope is right. The only "history" of Merry that we are given is present in the Appendices and in the Tale of Years. It has information like what Man included above along with Merry's birthday, and suchlike. Unfortunately, Tolkien didn't give us much information on what Merry did before LotR. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

01-10-2004, 11:37 PM	#5
Annantar Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: I have no idea Posts: 13	Oooo I'm sorry. I did mean the history after Lotr. if u know thanx. __________________ I'm a sneaky little Hobbit!

01-11-2004, 08:05 AM	#6
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,876	These threads may help! http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=000925 http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=003232 __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling