''Three cheers for Captain Frodo, Lord of the Ring''

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Mansun

I am lost - was the Barrow-Downs about winning or losing? Neither, I believe.

Please continue with the original thread question. . .

But when you enter into a debate it eventually comes down to who is winning and who is losing.

You have moved off your own topic question and have yet to plausibly prove your point of Gandalf as a killjoy, hypocrite.

''Three cheers for Captain Frodo, Lord of the Ring'' sounds like a merry and kind hearted gesture from a young hobbit to another one who barely escaped undeath.

So you're saying Pippin wasn't being foolish? He was making light of a very serious situation. He may not have understood it completely, but he saw what happened to Frodo, knew his friend was being chased, he knew he was not supposed to mentioned certain things in the open. And yet he still did. He was being foolish in his words and even in not understanding the situation fully he still should have known that what he was saying was wrong in some way.

[The Barrow-Wight]

I think that's about enough from all of you. This topic has been lost in the clutter of your arguments. I'm closing it.