Was Aragorns's son the next heir of Gondor? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Annantar · 01-18-2004, 12:47 AM

Was Aragorn's son the next heir of Gondor? I'm sure the answere is yes, but I've never heard of the history of Gondor after Aragorn had passed away, and I asume many of you have. So I'm wondering who became the next king, and what his son's history and his other children's were. If anyting I'm mainly looking for his son's, and if you can please add his other childrens also please! Thanx! Also please if you know, what is Gondor's history and what became of it?

Legolas · 01-18-2004, 01:03 AM

Nothing is known except for Eldarion's inheritance of the throne. Aragorn had daughters, but they remained unnamed in the histories Tolkien has presented. Chronologically the last thing we know of is the departure of Legolas, Gimli, and Sam. Tolkien began a story on what happened after Aragorn's death but scrapped it - you can read what he started to write in the History of Middle-earth.

Armetiel · 01-19-2004, 02:38 AM

Eldarion became king of Gondorin 1541, the year of Aragorns death on March 1st. IThey also had daughters, but nothing is none about them and I do not know how many their were, but at least 2.

Altariel · 01-19-2004, 11:01 AM

All that was said of the daughters was that there were "many..." [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Which of course could be anything from 2 to, well... you draw your own conclusions. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] When you're married for about a century, you can have daughters aplenty, I suppose...

Phervasaion · 01-19-2004, 01:41 PM

As been as Arwen was the mother, did the sons and daughters have a choice if wether they could become an Elf or a Man. I couldn't imagine Eldarion becomeing an Elf. That would mean he would rule Gondor forever.

Finwe · 01-19-2004, 01:49 PM

Nope, they didn't have a choice. Arwen had her children after she made her choice, and since she chose mortality, they would be mortal. We don't hear of Elros's children being given the choice, so Arwen's children shouldn't.

Armetiel · 01-19-2004, 02:25 PM

^nor did Arwen, Elrond was only half-elven same as Elros would have been technically half-mankind i guess since Elrond and Elros were brothers, but they didn't have kids until after they chose what they wanted to be, and they married of the same race that they had chosen to be...so if Elros kids had had the choice Arwen and her brothers would have too i think...but they didn't and nor would Arwen's children

Oroaranion · 01-19-2004, 02:55 PM

I think that Aragorn was the true Heir of Isildur, so if he had failed in the War of the Ring, his son would never have been born, because Middle Earth would have been destroyed. This is why Aragorn must be the last of the true Kings of Gondor.

Silmiel of Imladris · 01-19-2004, 04:07 PM

I wish Tolkien would have written more on the dominion of men but in my opinion the Elves were his favorite for he wrote quite a bit more about them.

01-18-2004, 12:47 AM	#1
Annantar Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: I have no idea Posts: 13	Was Aragorns's son the next heir of Gondor? Was Aragorn's son the next heir of Gondor? I'm sure the answere is yes, but I've never heard of the history of Gondor after Aragorn had passed away, and I asume many of you have. So I'm wondering who became the next king, and what his son's history and his other children's were. If anyting I'm mainly looking for his son's, and if you can please add his other childrens also please! Thanx! Also please if you know, what is Gondor's history and what became of it? __________________ I'm a sneaky little Hobbit!

01-18-2004, 01:03 AM	#2
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,850	Nothing is known except for Eldarion's inheritance of the throne. Aragorn had daughters, but they remained unnamed in the histories Tolkien has presented. Chronologically the last thing we know of is the departure of Legolas, Gimli, and Sam. Tolkien began a story on what happened after Aragorn's death but scrapped it - you can read what he started to write in the History of Middle-earth. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

01-19-2004, 02:38 AM	#3
Armetiel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 74	Eldarion became king of Gondorin 1541, the year of Aragorns death on March 1st. IThey also had daughters, but nothing is none about them and I do not know how many their were, but at least 2. __________________ "Love the Lord with all your heart, with all your strength, and with all your soul." Deuteronomy 6:5

01-19-2004, 11:01 AM	#4
Altariel Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Angband (a small region in northern BC) Posts: 50	All that was said of the daughters was that there were "many..." [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] Which of course could be anything from 2 to, well... you draw your own conclusions. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] When you're married for about a century, you can have daughters aplenty, I suppose... __________________ "Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy."

01-19-2004, 01:41 PM	#5
Phervasaion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The wilderness of Middle-Earth Posts: 306	As been as Arwen was the mother, did the sons and daughters have a choice if wether they could become an Elf or a Man. I couldn't imagine Eldarion becomeing an Elf. That would mean he would rule Gondor forever. __________________ Phervasaion

01-19-2004, 01:49 PM	#6
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Nope, they didn't have a choice. Arwen had her children after she made her choice, and since she chose mortality, they would be mortal. We don't hear of Elros's children being given the choice, so Arwen's children shouldn't. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

01-19-2004, 02:25 PM	#7
Armetiel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 74	^nor did Arwen, Elrond was only half-elven same as Elros would have been technically half-mankind i guess since Elrond and Elros were brothers, but they didn't have kids until after they chose what they wanted to be, and they married of the same race that they had chosen to be...so if Elros kids had had the choice Arwen and her brothers would have too i think...but they didn't and nor would Arwen's children __________________ "Love the Lord with all your heart, with all your strength, and with all your soul." Deuteronomy 6:5

01-19-2004, 02:55 PM	#8
Oroaranion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dol Amroth Posts: 94	I think that Aragorn was the true Heir of Isildur, so if he had failed in the War of the Ring, his son would never have been born, because Middle Earth would have been destroyed. This is why Aragorn must be the last of the true Kings of Gondor. __________________ I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed. I felled the black serpent. A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset!

01-19-2004, 04:07 PM	#9
Silmiel of Imladris Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Looking into a crystal ball- still see nothing Posts: 395	I wish Tolkien would have written more on the dominion of men but in my opinion the Elves were his favorite for he wrote quite a bit more about them. __________________ Legolas 20 ales later: I feel something, a slight tingling in my fingers. I think it's affecting me. Figwit on his name: Are you suggesting that I have the wit of a fig?