Learning Elvish - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

dunadan_aragorn · 03-11-2003, 07:21 PM

What is the best site to learn elvish at?

Legolas · 03-11-2003, 07:25 PM

www.ardalambion.com

Such questions are probably better-placed in Novices & Newcomers though [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

XPhial · 03-11-2003, 07:26 PM

Hopefully some place that teaches not to end sentences with prepositions.

dunadan_aragorn · 03-11-2003, 07:46 PM

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Hopefully some place that teaches not to end sentences with prepositions.

Are you threatening me? Actually, thanks for catching that. I should know that seeing as I teach english. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

StarJewel · 06-24-2003, 10:08 PM

In some editions of the Silmarillion, there's a kind of index of the meanings of word parts. It helps somewhat, but not everything is in there. Oh, and can anyone tell me what the name Finduilas means? I know it has something to do with hair(fin) but beyond that, I'm clueless

Estelyn Telcontar · 06-25-2003, 04:55 AM

This question isn't a book discussion, so the thread has been moved to the Novices and Newcomers forum. Please read and post there.

Yavanna228 · 06-25-2003, 07:31 AM

Another site that might be of help to you is Council Of Elrond. Doing a quick search through the fora of this board might turn up some other sites as well. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Have fun!
Peace

Roccotari Eldandil · 06-25-2003, 07:39 PM

Like Legolas said, Ardalambion is the best. Quenya course--if you can get through the 1st lesson (it's 21 pages if you print it out) on pronounciation it's the best course you'll find anywhere.
Sindarin--there isn't a formal course but the article is pretty enlightening, though the section on plurals and mutation is not for the faint of heart (I haven't even tried the mutation section yet).
Good luck!

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 06-26-2003, 03:57 AM

ardalambions quenya course is awesome!i have studied it for a while (60 pages) and i'm only in the beginning.
i never thought that i could make reasonable sentences in quenya on my own but i can!!!it's an amazing feeling to be able to do all the exercises without any mistakes...like:translate into quenya - the woman is watching the greatest ship

Tarien Ithil · 06-26-2003, 11:45 AM

The Council of Elrond is one of the best sites! Thanks all who recommended it.

Hmmm....Elvish is such a nice language to learn becuase, since nobody (with the exception of LOTR fans like ourselves) speaks it, you can sort of make your own kind of Elvish, that suits you. If you know what I'm saying... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Yavanna228 · 06-26-2003, 01:12 PM

Hm, present-day elvish dialects. There's something to think about...
Peace

Marroc Underhill · 06-29-2003, 09:58 AM

Well personaly I'm learning the Black Speech
of Mordor. I think I have a Quenya (High-Elven), I think I have a file on how to speak it. It my have been deleted. But
I'm sticking to the good old Black Speech.

The Witch King of Angmar (Marroc Underhill)

Yavanna228 · 06-29-2003, 10:19 AM

I know this is off-topic, and sorry about that, but where do you learn the Black Speech at?
Peace

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 06-29-2003, 11:02 AM

This is kind of off-topic as well, but it's been bugging me for ever. How do you pronounce the TH in Thain? Is it pronounced like THE or like THAI or what?

Yavanna228 · 06-29-2003, 11:10 AM

Or 'baTH'? I bet this would have went in the 'How do you pronounce Elessar?' thread. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
I think this word is in the dictionary. Let's check...oops, no, I suppose not. Sorry.
Peace

Marroc Underhill · 06-30-2003, 06:20 PM

http://brinja.bei.t-online.de/Black%...h%20Index.html
Or just go to www.yahoo.com and in the "Search" black at the top of the
page type in "The Black Speech" and
hit the "Search" icon. Then when it
is done searching click on the one
that says ~Black Speech~.

Elennar Starfire · 07-01-2003, 11:47 AM

Ardalambion has a section on "Orcish and the Black Speech." It doesn't have very many words though. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Marroc Underhill · 07-03-2003, 08:22 AM

You inspired me to start a web site on
the languages of Middle-Earth. So far it
only has The Black Speech, and no news
but I just created it today. You can
directly to it at http://www.webspawner.com/users/mord...09/index.html, or go through my web site
at http://www.angelfire.com/wizard2/sergeviper309/
Hope you visit.
Droggo

Galadrie1 · 07-04-2003, 05:23 PM

Check out this freaky "ghost-thread".

StarJewel · 07-23-2003, 12:29 AM

Ardalambion is the coolest site for learning elvish, orcish, or any thing else. I printed out both Sindarin and Quenya ( my parental units kind of freaked out with the amount of paper it took [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ) There's also a dictionary type site , www.endor.com/~disbrow/elflang.html

It has a lot of words, mostly sindarin, though. i'm trying to learn elvish too, so every little bit helps.

Alatariel Telemnar · 07-29-2003, 06:41 PM

I wanted to download tha but me mum wouldnt let me on her computer and I dont have the internet on mine... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

03-11-2003, 07:21 PM	#1
dunadan_aragorn Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the bowels of Moria Posts: 105	Learning Elvish What is the best site to learn elvish at? __________________ Allia Octa Est, The Die is Cast -Julius Ceaser

03-11-2003, 07:25 PM	#2
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	www.ardalambion.com Such questions are probably better-placed in Novices & Newcomers though [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

03-11-2003, 07:26 PM	#3
XPhial Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Here, there, and everywhere. Posts: 24	Hopefully some place that teaches not to end sentences with prepositions. __________________ Must we take a life for hateful eyes to glisten once again? For we find ourselves in the same old mess singin' drunken lullabies.

06-24-2003, 10:08 PM	#5
StarJewel Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: I'm in my dear Maedhros' arms, dreaming the day away. Oh, who am I kidding, Chicago is nothing like that! Posts: 116	In some editions of the Silmarillion, there's a kind of index of the meanings of word parts. It helps somewhat, but not everything is in there. Oh, and can anyone tell me what the name Finduilas means? I know it has something to do with hair(fin) but beyond that, I'm clueless __________________ Visit my writing site...if you dare http://www.fanfiction.net/~mirielamarian

06-25-2003, 04:55 AM	#6
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,499	This question isn't a book discussion, so the thread has been moved to the Novices and Newcomers forum. Please read and post there. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

06-25-2003, 07:31 AM	#7
Yavanna228 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: on the wings of the morning Posts: 394	Another site that might be of help to you is Council Of Elrond. Doing a quick search through the fora of this board might turn up some other sites as well. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Have fun! Peace __________________ 'Dulaman na Binne Bui, Dulaman Gaelach/ Dulaman na farraige, 's e b'fhearr a bhi in Eirinn!'

06-25-2003, 07:39 PM	#8
Roccotari Eldandil Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the stables of Lorien Posts: 79	Like Legolas said, Ardalambion is the best. Quenya course--if you can get through the 1st lesson (it's 21 pages if you print it out) on pronounciation it's the best course you'll find anywhere. Sindarin--there isn't a formal course but the article is pretty enlightening, though the section on plurals and mutation is not for the faint of heart (I haven't even tried the mutation section yet). Good luck! __________________ "Come, come!" he shouted, swinging his axe. "Since Gandalf's head is now sacred, let us find one that is right to cleave!" -Gimli, after hearing Galadriel's message to him in TTT

06-26-2003, 03:57 AM	#9
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	ardalambions quenya course is awesome!i have studied it for a while (60 pages) and i'm only in the beginning. i never thought that i could make reasonable sentences in quenya on my own but i can!!!it's an amazing feeling to be able to do all the exercises without any mistakes...like:translate into quenya - the woman is watching the greatest ship __________________ Fenris Wolf

06-26-2003, 11:45 AM	#10
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	The Council of Elrond is one of the best sites! Thanks all who recommended it. Hmmm....Elvish is such a nice language to learn becuase, since nobody (with the exception of LOTR fans like ourselves) speaks it, you can sort of make your own kind of Elvish, that suits you. If you know what I'm saying... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

06-26-2003, 01:12 PM	#11
Yavanna228 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: on the wings of the morning Posts: 394	Hm, present-day elvish dialects. There's something to think about... Peace __________________ 'Dulaman na Binne Bui, Dulaman Gaelach/ Dulaman na farraige, 's e b'fhearr a bhi in Eirinn!'

06-29-2003, 09:58 AM	#12
Marroc Underhill Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In The Deep Places Of The World Posts: 61	Well personaly I'm learning the Black Speech of Mordor. I think I have a Quenya (High-Elven), I think I have a file on how to speak it. It my have been deleted. But I'm sticking to the good old Black Speech. The Witch King of Angmar (Marroc Underhill) __________________ Hail to the Lords of Angmar, for we are the true power!

06-29-2003, 10:19 AM	#13
Yavanna228 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: on the wings of the morning Posts: 394	I know this is off-topic, and sorry about that, but where do you learn the Black Speech at? Peace __________________ 'Dulaman na Binne Bui, Dulaman Gaelach/ Dulaman na farraige, 's e b'fhearr a bhi in Eirinn!'

06-29-2003, 11:02 AM	#14
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	This is kind of off-topic as well, but it's been bugging me for ever. How do you pronounce the TH in Thain? Is it pronounced like THE or like THAI or what? __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

06-29-2003, 11:10 AM	#15
Yavanna228 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: on the wings of the morning Posts: 394	Or 'baTH'? I bet this would have went in the 'How do you pronounce Elessar?' thread. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I think this word is in the dictionary. Let's check...oops, no, I suppose not. Sorry. Peace __________________ 'Dulaman na Binne Bui, Dulaman Gaelach/ Dulaman na farraige, 's e b'fhearr a bhi in Eirinn!'

06-30-2003, 06:20 PM	#16
Marroc Underhill Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In The Deep Places Of The World Posts: 61	http://brinja.bei.t-online.de/Black%...h%20Index.html Or just go to www.yahoo.com and in the "Search" black at the top of the page type in "The Black Speech" and hit the "Search" icon. Then when it is done searching click on the one that says ~Black Speech~. __________________ Hail to the Lords of Angmar, for we are the true power!

07-01-2003, 11:47 AM	#17
Elennar Starfire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nowhere...now here Posts: 952	Ardalambion has a section on "Orcish and the Black Speech." It doesn't have very many words though. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ Don't let me die!

07-03-2003, 08:22 AM	#18
Marroc Underhill Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In The Deep Places Of The World Posts: 61	You inspired me to start a web site on the languages of Middle-Earth. So far it only has The Black Speech, and no news but I just created it today. You can directly to it at http://www.webspawner.com/users/mord...09/index.html, or go through my web site at http://www.angelfire.com/wizard2/sergeviper309/ Hope you visit. Droggo __________________ Hail to the Lords of Angmar, for we are the true power!

07-04-2003, 05:23 PM	#19
Galadrie1 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The wrong place at the wrong time. Posts: 385	Check out this freaky "ghost-thread". __________________ "For this is what your folk would call magic, I believe; though I do not understand clearly what they mean; and they seem to use the same word of the deceits of the Enemy. But this, if you will, is the magic of Galadriel."

07-23-2003, 12:29 AM	#20
StarJewel Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: I'm in my dear Maedhros' arms, dreaming the day away. Oh, who am I kidding, Chicago is nothing like that! Posts: 116	Ardalambion is the coolest site for learning elvish, orcish, or any thing else. I printed out both Sindarin and Quenya ( my parental units kind of freaked out with the amount of paper it took [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ) There's also a dictionary type site , www.endor.com/~disbrow/elflang.html It has a lot of words, mostly sindarin, though. i'm trying to learn elvish too, so every little bit helps. __________________ Visit my writing site...if you dare http://www.fanfiction.net/~mirielamarian

07-29-2003, 06:41 PM	#21
Alatariel Telemnar Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: watching the ants closing in Posts: 292	I wanted to download tha but me mum wouldnt let me on her computer and I dont have the internet on mine... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ -Ever wonder whats beyond those trees? -More trees. 'Poor ye. Ye're tied to someone who's been photographed trying to shave their hand... My condolences.'