My Worst Nightmare - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rose Cotton · 06-09-2003, 05:01 AM

I know there are other threads about dreams but this one strongly pertains to the movies.You see, I had a dream a couple of nights ago that was more like a nightmare. I dreamed that I had gone to see RotK and it was ONLY A SO-SO MOVIE!! NOOOOOOOO! I woke up and found out that everything is alright, that the movie isn't out yet, and it probably will be better then so-so.But now I'm thinking that I need serious mental help if my worst nightmare is RotK not being up to my standards.[ June 09, 2003: Message edited by: Rose Cotton ]

Lossentilien · 06-09-2003, 10:46 AM

Well, there are a lot of people who'd be right up there with you. After all this anticipation and exctiement, if ROTK is not absolutly fantastic, as is expected, my world will most likely crumble. I mean, we've been waiting years for this, if it turns out badly PJ's career may be non-existent. There's a lot riding on this film, and to hear the teasing comments from cast and crew about how wonderful it's going to be, I'd feel pretty angery and betrayed if it's all rubbish.... Maybe we're all need serious mental help......

Gorwingel · 06-09-2003, 01:22 PM

Yes, I actually have to agree, if ROTK is not up to my standards I think I will just DIE! (Not really, but I will be very sad) I have waited so long, and heard all these things about it being PJ's favorite, and all of the actors crying when they saw the rough cut. It better be a good movie, or I will be very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very MAD

Meela · 06-09-2003, 02:05 PM

I think Rotk will be fine. I'm not expecting anything in particular, as long as Denethor's actually in it. That's all I require to keep me happy.

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 06-09-2003, 05:02 PM

Meela, do you know how GOOD Brad Dourif looks in sunglasses?!?!? Woo...My friend had a dream where she watched the whole of RotK. She said it was awesome. I sure hope so!

Wolvaurynomir · 06-09-2003, 05:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I think Rotk will be fine. I'm not expecting anything in particular, as long as Denethor's actually in it. That's all I require to keep me happy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm sure film-makers around the world would love to take you to dinner just for that one statement, Meela. I think moviegoers everywhere should be easy to please like that. I only wish I was, sometimes.

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-09-2003, 05:23 PM

I can see it all now. The eagerly anticipated film will be released. There will be rave reviews in the media and it will be a massive box office success. But there will be plot changes, some favourite characters and/or scenes missed out (*cough*Scouring of the Shire*cough*). Many of the character changes already evident will continue to rankle with those who have been disappointed by them so far. Perhaps Faramir will not be sufficiently redeemed for some tastes. Perhaps a favourite character newly introduced will not live up to expectations.And Tolkien fans the world over will delight in debating all of these points back and forth, and back and forth again, for months afterwards. Some will be outraged at the changes. Some will like the film overall but have their particular gripes. Others will be accepting of the changes, perhaps understanding why they were made. And the debates will continue for many months after ... Personally, given the quality of the two previous films (as films), the material Jackson has to work with (much of which will undoubtedly lend itself to great cinema) and the fact that this film represents a resolution of the story (and therefore has somewhere to go), I have no doubt that I will enjoy it immensely. Yes, I am sure that I will have one or two personal gripes, just as I have with the two previous films, but I am confident on previous form that it will not fail to delight me.

HCIsland · 06-09-2003, 05:41 PM

Well said Saucepan.As a younger man, I have allowed myself to get hyped beyond all reasonable expectations about certain films and, inevitably, was disapointed. Often, once my perspective have been restored, I've come back to these films and realized some were not nearly as bad as I thought and some were still damn good.Don't have unreasonable expectations. If you've loved the first two films, expect more of the same but if you were disapointed, don't expect Jackson to win you back with RotK. It isn't likely to happen.Remember that for the most part, these films were all shot at the same time and so you should expect many of the same things you got in the first two movies. If that is good news, great, but if not, do not be shocked if you dislike RotK too.H.C.

Meela · 06-09-2003, 05:51 PM

Brad Dourif looks good full stop Yes, I'm not too fussed about how a movie turns out. I mean, I will find faults, and may believe it could have been better in some ways, but with Rotk, well... its Rotk! Plus, after all this waiting, even a 3 hour long viewing of behind-the-scenes crew and production shots in slideshow style would be satisfactory, as long as its Lord Of The Rings.

Meela · 06-09-2003, 05:53 PM

(I'm not actually expecting that... my hopes were a little higher... )

SamwiseGamgee · 06-09-2003, 05:54 PM

That is VERY wierd, because i had a "bad RotK" dream too a few days ago. I kept saying - it will be okay, it will redeem itself by the end. But after skipping shelobs lair and Tower of cirith ungol Frodo DIED! I'd never been so depressed when I woke up. (except for the time I dreamed I was Sam, and Frodo wouldn't come with me on the quest to destroy the ring - I know, I need a life!)

HCIsland · 06-09-2003, 06:15 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I kept saying - it will be okay, it will redeem itself by the end. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> If you feel the films need to redeem themselves then you a likely setting yourself up for disappointment. It's all the same people making it and they're not changing the way they do things.H.C.

Gorwingel · 06-09-2003, 07:00 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Brad Dourif looks good full stop <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why is everyone talking about Mr. Dourif?????? It won't ruin my life if ROTK is a bad movie, it really won't, I just will hope for the best. I personally really had no gripes about TTT at all. The only problem that I had seriously with it was Faramir (but that is another thread). If they fix Faramir, and it is like the first two, and if Shelob lives up to my expectations. I will be fine.

Frodo 007 · 06-10-2003, 12:30 AM

oh my god that is a nightmare *shivers*im glad i havnt had a nightmare like that yet...

Shy Hobbit · 06-10-2003, 05:06 PM

Don't feel bad about the nightmares, I actually had one too. The weird thing was, the promotion posters and stuff were the same as TTT. When we got in, it was just yucko. Aragorn was a doof and that's about all I remember.

06-09-2003, 05:01 AM	#1
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	My Worst Nightmare I know there are other threads about dreams but this one strongly pertains to the movies.<P>You see, I had a dream a couple of nights ago that was more like a nightmare. I dreamed that I had gone to see RotK and it was ONLY A SO-SO MOVIE!! NOOOOOOOO! I woke up and found out that everything is alright, that the movie isn't out yet, and it probably will be better then so-so.<P>But now I'm thinking that I need serious mental help if my worst nightmare is RotK not being up to my standards.<p>[ June 09, 2003: Message edited by: Rose Cotton ] __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

06-09-2003, 10:46 AM	#2
Lossentilien Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: lost in a web of intrigue Posts: 123	Well, there are a lot of people who'd be right up there with you. After all this anticipation and exctiement, if ROTK is not absolutly fantastic, as is expected, my world will most likely crumble. I mean, we've been waiting years for this, if it turns out badly PJ's career may be non-existent. There's a lot riding on this film, and to hear the teasing comments from cast and crew about how wonderful it's going to be, I'd feel pretty angery and betrayed if it's all rubbish.... <BR>Maybe we're all need serious mental help...... __________________ "Can I cry as much as I want? The white snow falls and hides my tears." Imladris

06-09-2003, 01:22 PM	#3
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	Yes, I actually have to agree, if ROTK is not up to my standards I think I will just DIE! (Not really, but I will be very sad)<BR>I have waited so long, and heard all these things about it being PJ's favorite, and all of the actors crying when they saw the rough cut. It better be a good movie, or I will be very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very MAD __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

06-09-2003, 02:05 PM	#4
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	I think Rotk will be fine. I'm not expecting anything in particular, as long as Denethor's actually in it. That's all I require to keep me happy. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

06-09-2003, 05:02 PM	#5
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	Meela, do you know how GOOD Brad Dourif looks in sunglasses?!?!? Woo...<P>My friend had a dream where she watched the whole of RotK. She said it was awesome. I sure hope so! __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

06-09-2003, 05:10 PM	#6
Wolvaurynomir Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Arizona; feel the burn.... Posts: 21	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I think Rotk will be fine. I'm not expecting anything in particular, as long as Denethor's actually in it. That's all I require to keep me happy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'm sure film-makers around the world would love to take you to dinner just for that one statement, Meela. I think moviegoers everywhere should be easy to please like that. I only wish I was, sometimes. __________________ For Gondor and the fallen... bub! ?!?! This isn't Osgiliath! Do the wave for Boromir the Disco King! Eat squid for Boromir the Disco king!

06-09-2003, 05:23 PM	#7
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I can see it all now. The eagerly anticipated film will be released. There will be rave reviews in the media and it will be a massive box office success. <P>But there will be plot changes, some favourite characters and/or scenes missed out (coughScouring of the Shirecough). Many of the character changes already evident will continue to rankle with those who have been disappointed by them so far. Perhaps Faramir will not be sufficiently redeemed for some tastes. Perhaps a favourite character newly introduced will not live up to expectations.<P>And Tolkien fans the world over will delight in debating all of these points back and forth, and back and forth again, for months afterwards. Some will be outraged at the changes. Some will like the film overall but have their particular gripes. Others will be accepting of the changes, perhaps understanding why they were made. And the debates will continue for many months after ... <P>Personally, given the quality of the two previous films (as films), the material Jackson has to work with (much of which will undoubtedly lend itself to great cinema) and the fact that this film represents a resolution of the story (and therefore has somewhere to go), I have no doubt that I will enjoy it immensely. Yes, I am sure that I will have one or two personal gripes, just as I have with the two previous films, but I am confident on previous form that it will not fail to delight me. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-09-2003, 05:41 PM	#8
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Well said Saucepan.<P>As a younger man, I have allowed myself to get hyped beyond all reasonable expectations about certain films and, inevitably, was disapointed. Often, once my perspective have been restored, I've come back to these films and realized some were not nearly as bad as I thought and some were still damn good.<P>Don't have unreasonable expectations. If you've loved the first two films, expect more of the same but if you were disapointed, don't expect Jackson to win you back with RotK. It isn't likely to happen.<P>Remember that for the most part, these films were all shot at the same time and so you should expect many of the same things you got in the first two movies. If that is good news, great, but if not, do not be shocked if you dislike RotK too.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

06-09-2003, 05:51 PM	#9
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Brad Dourif looks good full stop <P>Yes, I'm not too fussed about how a movie turns out. I mean, I will find faults, and may believe it could have been better in some ways, but with Rotk, well... its Rotk! Plus, after all this waiting, even a 3 hour long viewing of behind-the-scenes crew and production shots in slideshow style would be satisfactory, as long as its Lord Of The Rings. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

06-09-2003, 05:53 PM	#10
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	(I'm not actually expecting that... my hopes were a <I>little</I> higher... ) __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

06-09-2003, 05:54 PM	#11
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	That is VERY wierd, because i had a "bad RotK" dream too a few days ago. I kept saying - it will be okay, it will redeem itself by the end. But after skipping shelobs lair and Tower of cirith ungol Frodo DIED! I'd never been so depressed when I woke up. <P>(except for the time I dreamed I was Sam, and Frodo wouldn't come with me on the quest to destroy the ring - I know, I need a life!) __________________ -- Well, I'm back.

06-09-2003, 06:15 PM	#12
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I kept saying - it will be okay, it will redeem itself by the end. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If you feel the films need to redeem themselves then you a likely setting yourself up for disappointment. It's all the same people making it and they're not changing the way they do things.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

06-09-2003, 07:00 PM	#13
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Brad Dourif looks good full stop <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Why is everyone talking about Mr. Dourif?????? <P>It won't ruin my life if ROTK is a bad movie, it really won't, I just will hope for the best. I personally really had no gripes about TTT at all. The only problem that I had seriously with it was Faramir (but that is another thread). If they fix Faramir, and it is like the first two, and if Shelob lives up to my expectations. I will be fine. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

06-10-2003, 12:30 AM	#14
Frodo 007 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wellington, New Zealand (Middle-Earth Baby Yeah!!!) Posts: 85	oh my god that is a nightmare shiversim glad i havnt had a nightmare like that yet... __________________ Elen Sila Lúmenn' Omentielvo

06-10-2003, 05:06 PM	#15
Shy Hobbit Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world Posts: 201	Don't feel bad about the nightmares, I actually had one too. The weird thing was, the promotion posters and stuff were the same as TTT. When we got in, it was just yucko. Aragorn was a doof and that's about all I remember. __________________ Make Middle-Earth a friendlier place, hug a balrog today! ~The Fellowship of the King~