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Old 07-30-2003, 06:27 AM   #41
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Sorry, this is not a guess.

Once the answers are given, I understand them, but until that moment I am left scratching my head. Would it be too much to ask that we at least categorize our clues? By that, I mean could we say if the answer is a person, place or thing? Or would that be making them too easy?


Would it be possible for a few easy ones so usnon-cryptic people can get the hang of it?

Thanks! Looking forward to figuring one of these out!
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Old 07-30-2003, 06:49 AM   #42
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Reposting for this page:

Crafty actor goes back to earth tones.

HINT: person.

Barrow-Wight: be sure to read The Saucepan Man's excellent summary of the tricks of the trade for these puzzles, on page 1 of this thread.
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Would it be possible for a few easy ones so usnon-cryptic people can get the hang of it?
B-W, I pondered Annun's clue for ages and got no further than the "-grim" bit, so being familiar with these types of clues doesn't always help with the really tricksy ones.

The trick is to work out which is the straight clue and which are the cryptic clues. Then you can test various answers for the straight clue and see how they work with the cryptic ones.

Turambar - Is the answer Mahal?

Actors can be "Hams" and "Ham" backwards gives "Mah". I've no idea how to get "-al" from earth tones, but Mahal, aka Aule, was a pretty crafty chap. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-30-2003, 09:12 AM   #44
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You're very close, Saucepan. Your hammy reasoning is correct.
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It's Fėanor's father-in-law, the smith Mahtan.

The beginning of the solution is Saucepan's inverted 'ham', but earth tones is tan.
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Old 07-30-2003, 11:57 AM   #46
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So you want Mahtan, tan being an earth tone. If that's right, give it to Saucepan, since I never would have gotten the Mah, and won't be able to form a new clue anyway. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Edit: Ah, beaten to the answer by about three seconds.
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Yep, that's it.

"Crafty" probably wasn't the best "straight" clue -- I mis-remembered, and thought Mahtan was described as a craftsman rather than a smith -- but "The actor Mr. Smith" would have been too easy anyway.

Anyway, your turn, Squatter.

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So do I, Turambar, although I'm still kicking myself over Herugrim.

Anyway, here's a nice easy one as per the Barrow-Wight's request:

Fair city can include southern port
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can = tin
includes a southern port = Rio [de Janeiro]

=> fair city Tirion

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Spot on, Sharkū. Welcome to the game.
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Eh, she fell asleep somewhere around that part a lot. Place.
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Doriath?
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Nope. 2 words, btw.
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*wonders which part is the "straight" clue* [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

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Old 08-02-2003, 05:34 PM   #55
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It's Cabed Naeramarth, although I've only really solved the 'abed' part: a place to fall asleep. And of course 'naer' is an anagram of 'near'. Close enough?
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Told you it was, silly. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

EH plays on the stereotype of it being a typical CAnadian interjection.
A LOT should be read as 'a fate/doom' and is then, of course, AMARTH.

Niniel fell there to her eternal sleep, and earlier near there, when Tśrin first met her again, fleeing from Glaurung.

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Oh, come on: at least let me pretend that it wasn't a wild guess. Here's another to cover up my discomfort.

Perilous dwelling is empty point reached by five-hundred when ad confused.
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Bar-en-danwedh?

WHEN AD is an anagram for ANWEDH, preceeded by the Roman numeral D for 500 = DANWEDH.

BAR-EN contains BARE, 'empty', and the whole House of Ransom proved a dangerous abode for Tśrin & co.
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You're right again, old man. The 'N' is the point (North). It was, I suppose, rather cheeky of me to use a question that's answered by my own location.
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Around a year, the knight no longer had water, only nitrogen.
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It's Sirannon, old boy.

One addresses a knight as Sir; 'a year' is Latin anno and 'nitrogen' is represented by its chemical symbol N.

The gate-stream of Khazad-Dūm had been dammed when it was reached by the Fellowship of the Ring, hence no water issued forth.
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Perfect answer.
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Ah, so much like the answerer.

Roman drove erratically, sighting diminutive hero
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I hope nobody minds if I join in...

Are you talking about Roverandom?
I know it might be remotely related to M-E stuff, but Roman drove is an "erratic" version of Roverandom, and "random" itself means "erratic".
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You're quite right, Kaiserin. Welcome to the game.
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Okay... I guess it's my turn now. Here goes...

Seemed at first like a tall tale, so I fled
(Just doing as the guy said!)
Then was followed by a demon-in-red

I'm talking about a person. I guess this would be easy. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Seemed at first like a tall tale, so I fled
(Just doing as the guy said!)
Then was followed by a demon-in-red
Mithrandir?
A tall tale = Myth = Mith
Fled = Ran
Demon-in-red = D. I. R.

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[img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Told you it was easy.
You got it!
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Ah, but can I think up a new one? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]
Here goes:

Baby boys, otherwise we meet Mike without Kim.

Edit: Better, but probably too easy.

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Elured and Elurin?

(Can't be right.)
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Okay... I'm still wondering which one is the straight clue. Here's a shot:

Nino is a spanish word for "baby boy",
Or can mean "otherwise",
Mike without Kim is the letter E...

Is it Nienor?

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Hmm, you're probably right, but why baby boys (which would be ninos), I wonder? And using a foreign word without a clue that you're doing this is cryptic indeed. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Oh, Kaiserin, so close! Nope, no foreign words, but the last two parts of your guess were correct. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Okay, I should have said this at the beginning: the answer is a place. Good luck!
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I think I've got it... Numenor!

I can't see where the 'e' is supposed to go, but Numen- pronouced like 'New men'- is where the baby boys part comes in, and then we've already addressed the 'or'.

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Then it must be Nśmenorė. I found a place where it is spelled like that.
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Whew! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Thanks..

I'm sorry if this sounds like a riddle, and must therefore be in another thread.. but it's just cryptic, trust me!

That which matter
would go under

And for follower
that precedes after

Flowing over
the sad sepulchre


It's NOT a place... I'd like to tell you what category it falls under, but if I did, that would give it away. Have fun!

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Two days and still no one? I'm surprised... And I'm sorry; I either came up with a clue that is too hard, or made one one that really sucks. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Anyway, I'll rephrase the same clue above, to make it simpler:

"For" follower that precedes "after"
And that which goes "over matter"
Flowing on a sepulchre

I't not a person or a place or an animal; it's more of an object but it's not really an object. This might make it a little too easy, but at least it will get the thread going.

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Evermind

Ever can follow 'for' to make 'forever' or precede 'after' to mean much the same thing; 'mind over matter' is a common phrase. The whole, a translation of simbelmynė, grows on the the graves of men.

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Excellent, Squatter!

I was also using the word "flowing" to refer to Evermind as a flow-er, or flower, but anyhow you're very right. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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