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Old 02-22-2004, 12:41 PM   #121
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NightKnight: Close but no cigar. You missed out a generation.
Hint: The great-great-great-granddaughter is Arwen
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Old 02-22-2004, 01:21 PM   #122
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Then it would be Celeborn and Galathil.
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Old 02-22-2004, 01:47 PM   #123
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Old 02-22-2004, 02:10 PM   #124
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In what way are Pippin and Bandobras Bullroarer related?
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Old 02-22-2004, 03:26 PM   #125
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Bullroarer was Pippin's great-great-great-great-uncle on his father's side, and on his mother's side... j/k.
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Old 02-22-2004, 04:02 PM   #126
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Old 02-22-2004, 05:26 PM   #127
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Bullroarer was Pippin's great-great-great-great-great-uncle.
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Old 02-22-2004, 06:03 PM   #128
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Old 02-22-2004, 09:13 PM   #129
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On her mother's side, how is Arwen related to Gil-Galad?
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Old 02-23-2004, 05:56 AM   #130
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He was her grandmother's cousin's son.
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Old 02-23-2004, 06:47 AM   #131
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:48 AM   #132
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What was Bregolas to Arwen?
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Old 02-23-2004, 08:06 PM   #133
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Bregolas was Arwen's great-great-great-great grandfather.
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:33 AM   #134
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:59 PM   #135
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What relation were Elwing and Celebrian?
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Old 02-24-2004, 06:20 PM   #136
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Elwing is Celebrian's mother-in-law.
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Old 02-24-2004, 09:40 PM   #137
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Well...yes, that is correct. But, I was actually thinking of another relationship between the two.
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Old 02-25-2004, 03:26 AM   #138
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Elwing was Celebrian's cousin's daughter.
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Old 02-25-2004, 05:40 AM   #139
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You are on the right track in thinking about the 'cousin' relationship. Specifically, I was thinking about which generation of cousins that they were to each other...
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Old 02-25-2004, 07:03 PM   #140
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Elwing is Celebrian's first cousin, once removed. Celebrian is Elwing's mother's cousin.

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Old 02-26-2004, 08:43 AM   #141
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I don't understand all those cousin thingys in English. Sorry.
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Old 02-26-2004, 07:04 PM   #142
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Ok, I'll give a big hint. Going back 3 generations from Celebrian and Elwing, you have the brothers Olwe and Elwe. Their children, Earwen and Luthien were first cousins. The children of Earwen and Luthien would be second cousins to each other...making the next generation ????? cousins to each other!
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Old 02-27-2004, 02:21 AM   #143
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Third cousins?
But all that cousin stuff IS confusing. first, second and third cousins, once, twice removed, what's the point of it?
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Old 02-27-2004, 06:56 AM   #144
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THe point of it shows the relationship between people and generations.
For instance: Luthien and Earwen are first cousins; their children (Dior and Galadriel) would be second cousins to each other. But, Dior and Galadriel could also be called 'first cousin, once removed (cuz of generation)' from either Earwen or Luthien, as the case may be.
The term 'cousin' show the relationship and is used without the 'removed' adjective when the cousins are in the same generation. The term 'x-removed' is used to show the relationship between different generations.
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Old 02-27-2004, 09:43 AM   #145
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Ok, I got it(i think)

What's the relationship between Celebrimbor & Maeglin?
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Old 02-27-2004, 09:52 AM   #146
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I didn't know that. Thanks luthien.

For the question: Second cousins?
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Old 02-27-2004, 06:09 PM   #147
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Half-second cousins? Because Feanor and Fingolfin were half brothers.
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Old 02-28-2004, 03:55 AM   #148
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Yes Firefoot, but I'll accept NightKnight's answer, and he was first so it's all yours NightKnight.
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Thanks Firefoot.

What was Barahir to Turin?
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Old 02-28-2004, 06:51 AM   #150
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Old 02-29-2004, 12:58 PM   #152
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How were Gimli and Kili related?
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Old 02-29-2004, 01:12 PM   #153
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Gimli and Kili's great-great-grandfathers were brothers.
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Old 02-29-2004, 01:34 PM   #154
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Old 02-29-2004, 06:10 PM   #155
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Thanks. How are Luthien and Arwen related?
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Old 02-29-2004, 08:31 PM   #156
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Old 03-03-2004, 06:49 PM   #157
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Yes indeed. Your go.
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Old 03-03-2004, 09:11 PM   #158
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yup....i got a good one


Eorl to Eomer
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:47 PM   #159
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Eorl would be Eomer's great (x15)-grandpa.
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