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Old 07-07-2003, 07:50 AM   #161
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Those are the ones, Alak... odd that you don't see much yellow in the movies...

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Old 07-14-2003, 08:54 AM   #162
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How right you are Sophia...

What is a Shire-muster and who can call one?
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Old 07-14-2003, 09:08 AM   #163
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A shire-muster is the mobilization of the
Hobbitry-in-arms, militia in the shire. Only the Thain could call one.(the authority in the shire when the King is absent)
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Old 07-14-2003, 04:48 PM   #164
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Correct! Once again I say...Mariska the board is yours.
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Old 07-15-2003, 03:15 AM   #165
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why thank you [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Explain what the Shirriffs were and how you could recognize them?
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Old 07-16-2003, 01:37 AM   #166
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A shirrif = a sherrif; they were policers of the Shire, patrolling it and keeping it in order. Apparently recognisable by a feather in the hat, they were misused by Sharkey's lackeys to swell in number and become tools to subdue the Hobbit population.
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:14 AM   #167
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good!
It was that easy eh? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
your turn [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-26-2003, 02:17 PM   #168
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Gwaihir, your turn.
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Old 07-27-2003, 01:50 AM   #169
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Right...

What were Hobbits 'inclined to be'?
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Old 07-27-2003, 01:52 AM   #170
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They are inclined to be fat. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Taken from the prologue.
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Old 07-29-2003, 02:58 AM   #171
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Not detailed enough, Beren. More specifically?
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Old 07-29-2003, 03:47 AM   #172
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Yeah, Beren, that's like all hobbits in general!
More specific please!
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Old 07-29-2003, 01:01 PM   #173
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Ah, I thought you meant exactly what's said, but I'll go on.

Well, inclined to be fat, quick of hearing and sharp-eyed, and do not move quickly except in need. They are a little people, who shy away from mechanical things, and they love peace and good tilled earth.
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Old 08-01-2003, 02:09 AM   #174
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Hmmm actually I was looking for

'Inclined to be fat in the stomach...'

which is what it says the Hobbit [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]. Probably the full statement from which the LotR introduction one was taken. Anyway.
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Old 08-08-2003, 01:38 AM   #175
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Ah, it probably was. Oh well.

What was Hobbitish a dialect of?
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Old 08-08-2003, 02:15 AM   #176
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Westron, wasn't it?
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Old 08-13-2003, 02:19 PM   #177
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That would be it, good Windlord.
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Old 08-27-2003, 02:36 AM   #178
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Right then, sorry about the incredibly lengthy elapsation of time between this post and the last.....

Which part of the world is the Shire taken to be (more or less) based upon?
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Old 08-29-2003, 05:49 PM   #179
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The Shire is based on "Merry Olde" England. A sort of pre-industrial revolution, rural idyll. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-30-2003, 01:44 AM   #180
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Merry Olde, eh? If you like, I suppose... but tell me which part of England and I'll give you it.
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Old 09-02-2003, 04:48 PM   #181
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I believe that he based the Shire on the county of Oxfordshire. As a young boy he lived in the countryside outside Birmingham and then as an adult he enjoyed exploring around his Oxford home. He did not approve of the growing industrialisation of the area, disliking the factories and the increased traffic on the roads. his descriptions of the Shire harkened back to the days before the industrial Revolution.
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Old 09-03-2003, 02:27 AM   #182
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Industrial Revolution, hmmm... well he isn't that old, you know. We are talking about the twentieth century. The countryside he grew up in was industrialised to a significant extent after his childhood there, this was not in the Industrial Revolution of 1800 but the early decades of the 1900's. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Oxfordshire is not it, and he in fact made it quite clear what the Shire was modelled on. (Hint: type 'Tolkien's childhood county' or something into Google, you'll probably get an answer. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img])
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Old 09-03-2003, 02:38 AM   #183
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Following your advice, it should be Birmingham.
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:56 AM   #184
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Birmingham is in the county of Warwickshire...(although the government keep changing the borders and the names)
Tolkien was actually born in South Africa, I think he was 7 or 8 maybe when they moved to England.
I know he wasn't around before the beginning of the Industrial Revolution (1750 - 1900) [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] I think he was born in 1892 (don't have my books with me)he loved nature, especially trees, and saw factories and such like as a blot on the landscape. Hence Sam's nightmare vision of the Shire in Galadriel's mirror.
Therefore I will change my answer to Warwickshire [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 09-06-2003, 02:25 AM   #185
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Yeah, Warwickshire is supposedly it. Not sure whether I should give it to you or to Mariska, though, as she said 'Birmingham' before which wasn't exactly what I was looking for... either of you may as well take it then, I suppose.
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Old 09-06-2003, 12:10 PM   #186
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Eruanna, since your answer was far more complete, it is no more than logical that you come up with a new question! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-06-2003, 01:12 PM   #187
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That's very gracious of you, Mariska. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
However, I'm just popping in and don't have a question ready.....so, the thread is yours. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Okay then, if you insist... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Who were the founders of the Shire?
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this question has been up here allready, so I don't know if it counts. But I'll try nonetheless:it were Marcho and Blancho
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Yeah, that's right.
I'm sorry to have asked a question that already was up here...
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Old 09-08-2003, 11:56 AM   #191
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ok then, here it comes;

what was one of bilbo's greatest hobbies in 'The hobbit', one which he shared with Gandalf and Thorin Oakenshield,and that is mentioned at the first visit of the dwarves at Bilbo's.

(whew, that sounds way more difficult than it is, mostly because i can't explain this all very well)

edit: I almost forgot, In the movie-version of the fellowship it is also mentioned.

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Old 09-08-2003, 01:42 PM   #192
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the smoking of pipe-weed?
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very close, but not exact what I was looking for...

to give you another hint, he was doing this when he first met Gandalf in 'the Hobbit'
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:25 AM   #194
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Well then, it must be blowing smoke rings with the airborne product of the combustion of the aforementioned pipeweed. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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*applauds* the answer was indeed blowing smokerings... the forum is your's saucepan man. *bows as he hands over the keys [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]*
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Well I already have a set of keys, Firnantoonion. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] But thank you all the same. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Who first tended Bilbo's garden at Bag End?
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I believe it was the old Holman, who used to tend Bilbo's garden, helped by the Gaffer who later continued to tend Bilbo's garden on his own.
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