Here or end? Pronunciation question. - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Manwe · 01-08-2003, 04:38 AM

I've started reading The Silmarillion again and was a bit confused when I read the pronunciation in the end. It says that ë in the end of words, like Aulë, Oromë or Manwë, yes I know i should know, but I don't, are pronunced as a "distinct vowel". Does this mean e like in 'end' or the first e in 'here'. Please let me know, I want to know how I should pronunce my name, thanks!

Galorme · 01-08-2003, 05:04 AM

e in end, I'm fairly sure. The two dots only means it should be taken as a distinct syllable, which means that it is pronounced like a normal e, which is e from end. é is a German eh (mehr).

doug*platypus · 01-08-2003, 05:07 AM

I think it's actually... here.

Lady_Báin · 01-08-2003, 08:18 AM

yes the dots on the top of the e (ë) indicate that it is e as in end. i think they are also there to show that i is Oromë and not just Orome and so forth.

Galorme · 01-08-2003, 04:04 PM

Actually the double dot doesn't symbolise a change in pronunciation of the letter, just a change in the number of syllables. My name (Galormë) is pronounced Gal-or-meh, the last e being a syllable of its own. Without the doubledot the word could be considered two syllables. The last e of a word is always distinct in Quenya, and sometimes in the middle of a word, but just to make sure they are usually dotted. At least I think that's it, I am not an expert.

01-08-2003, 04:38 AM	#1
Manwe Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ilmarin, Taniquetil Posts: 98	Here or end? Pronunciation question. I've started reading The Silmarillion again and was a bit confused when I read the pronunciation in the end. It says that ë in the end of words, like Aulë, Oromë or Manwë, yes I know i should know, but I don't, are pronunced as a "distinct vowel". Does this mean e like in 'end' or the first e in 'here'. Please let me know, I want to know how I should pronunce my name, thanks! __________________ by the way my name is Manwë, not Manwe

01-08-2003, 05:04 AM	#2
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	e in end, I'm fairly sure. The two dots only means it should be taken as a distinct syllable, which means that it is pronounced like a normal e, which is e from end. é is a German eh (mehr). __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!

01-08-2003, 05:07 AM	#3
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 963	I think it's actually... here. __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

01-08-2003, 08:18 AM	#4
Lady_Báin Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Peterborough, England Posts: 250	yes the dots on the top of the e (ë) indicate that it is e as in end. i think they are also there to show that i is Oromë and not just Orome and so forth. __________________ pæling.

01-08-2003, 04:04 PM	#5
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	Actually the double dot doesn't symbolise a change in pronunciation of the letter, just a change in the number of syllables. My name (Galormë) is pronounced Gal-or-meh, the last e being a syllable of its own. Without the doubledot the word could be considered two syllables. The last e of a word is always distinct in Quenya, and sometimes in the middle of a word, but just to make sure they are usually dotted. At least I think that's it, I am not an expert. __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!

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