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The Might · 03-21-2010, 06:27 PM

Nope.

Urwen · 04-09-2010, 07:59 AM

Maybe Eomer?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-09-2010, 08:16 AM

Or some sort of Turgon? (the Steward) That's quite random... but it's sort of hard to see what is the connection you're looking for. Tricky, Miggy!

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-04-2010, 09:17 AM

*coughcough* Miggy?

The Might · 05-24-2010, 09:40 AM

Sorry about that, no still no correct answers.
I'll use a Latin proverb to give you a big hint - in vino veritas!

Urwen · 05-24-2010, 11:45 AM

Ah.Truth.

Gandalf,then

The Might · 05-24-2010, 12:02 PM

No, it's not Gandalf.
Also, I would appreciate explanations, that way I can provide hints with what is wrong about the guesses.

Pitchwife · 05-24-2010, 01:59 PM

I've been wondering for quite a while whether it shouldn't read "________ to Théoden" instead of other way round like you put it, TM. Looking at the relationship between Pippin and Denethor, what have we got?
1.) Pippin told Denethor how his son died,
2.) swore fealty to him,
3.) served him as his squire and, I believe, cup-bearer (the in-vino-veritas hint could refer to this),
4.) disobeyed his orders to save Faramir's life.
I can think of several people who performed one or more of these services for Théoden, but no instance of Théoden himself doing anything of the like.

The Might · 05-25-2010, 12:52 PM

No, no, it's correct this way.

The Might · 07-04-2010, 05:25 AM

Still no takers?
One of Pitch's points is very close to the answer.

Galadriel55 · 11-01-2010, 05:24 AM

For some reason I think it has to something with either Saruman or Wormtongue

The Might · 11-01-2010, 03:43 PM

No, but close.
The answer does come from Rohan, and keep in mind the vino hint, should be easy then.

xMellrynxMaidenx · 11-02-2010, 12:46 PM

Merry Brandybuck became a squire for king Theoden...is it Merry?

The Might · 11-03-2010, 02:20 AM

No, as I said the answer does indeed come from Rohan, as in born and raised there.

Galadriel55 · 11-14-2010, 08:34 PM

The only person that was born and raised in Rohan who had anything to do with wine is Eowyn. She passed the cup of wine around during Theoden's first dinner/lunch with Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas.
But I honestly don't know how that can fit with Pippin and Denethor. Except for maybe Theoden and Pippin are both trying to convince Eowyn and Denethor not to lose hope and faith...

Galadriel55 · 01-07-2011, 09:05 PM

Might???

03-21-2010, 06:27 PM	#681
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,287	Nope. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-09-2010, 08:16 AM	#683
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,145	Or some sort of Turgon? (the Steward) That's quite random... but it's sort of hard to see what is the connection you're looking for. Tricky, Miggy! __________________ "But it is not your own Shire," said Gildor. "Others dwelt here before hobbits were; and others will dwell here again when hobbits are no more. The wide world is all about you: you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot for ever fence it out."

05-04-2010, 09:17 AM	#684
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,145	coughcough Miggy? __________________ "But it is not your own Shire," said Gildor. "Others dwelt here before hobbits were; and others will dwell here again when hobbits are no more. The wide world is all about you: you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot for ever fence it out."

05-24-2010, 09:40 AM	#685
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,287	Sorry about that, no still no correct answers. I'll use a Latin proverb to give you a big hint - in vino veritas! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

05-24-2010, 11:45 AM	#686
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	Ah.Truth. Gandalf,then __________________ I'll defend Lalaith by any means!

04-09-2010, 07:59 AM	#682
Urwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 515	Maybe Eomer?

05-24-2010, 12:02 PM	#687
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,287	No, it's not Gandalf. Also, I would appreciate explanations, that way I can provide hints with what is wrong about the guesses. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

05-24-2010, 01:59 PM	#688
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 2,899	I've been wondering for quite a while whether it shouldn't read "________ to Théoden" instead of other way round like you put it, TM. Looking at the relationship between Pippin and Denethor, what have we got? 1.) Pippin told Denethor how his son died, 2.) swore fealty to him, 3.) served him as his squire and, I believe, cup-bearer (the in-vino-veritas hint could refer to this), 4.) disobeyed his orders to save Faramir's life. I can think of several people who performed one or more of these services for Théoden, but no instance of Théoden himself doing anything of the like. __________________ The 21st century is when everything changes, you've got to be ready.

05-25-2010, 12:52 PM	#689
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,287	No, no, it's correct this way. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

07-04-2010, 05:25 AM	#690
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,287	Still no takers? One of Pitch's points is very close to the answer. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-01-2010, 05:24 AM	#691
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 7,260	For some reason I think it has to something with either Saruman or Wormtongue __________________ - These taxes, they are like sacrifices to tribal gods? - Well, roughly speaking, but paying taxes is more painful. Doctor Who: The Sun Makers

11-01-2010, 03:43 PM	#692
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,287	No, but close. The answer does come from Rohan, and keep in mind the vino hint, should be easy then. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-02-2010, 12:46 PM	#693
xMellrynxMaidenx Wight Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Riding with the Grey Company Posts: 120	Merry Brandybuck became a squire for king Theoden...is it Merry? __________________ ~\|And all will turn, to silver glass. A light on the water, Grey ships pass, Into the West. \|~ "Few now remember them...yet still some go wandering, sons of forgotten kings walking in loneliness, guarding from evil things folks that are heedless."

11-03-2010, 02:20 AM	#694
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,287	No, as I said the answer does indeed come from Rohan, as in born and raised there. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-14-2010, 08:34 PM	#695
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 7,260	The only person that was born and raised in Rohan who had anything to do with wine is Eowyn. She passed the cup of wine around during Theoden's first dinner/lunch with Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas. But I honestly don't know how that can fit with Pippin and Denethor. Except for maybe Theoden and Pippin are both trying to convince Eowyn and Denethor not to lose hope and faith... __________________ - These taxes, they are like sacrifices to tribal gods? - Well, roughly speaking, but paying taxes is more painful. Doctor Who: The Sun Makers Last edited by Galadriel55; 11-14-2010 at 08:39 PM.

01-07-2011, 09:05 PM	#696
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 7,260	Might??? __________________ - These taxes, they are like sacrifices to tribal gods? - Well, roughly speaking, but paying taxes is more painful. Doctor Who: The Sun Makers

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