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Old 06-14-2004, 03:50 AM   #41
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Nope- think of races and their relationships.
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Old 06-14-2004, 07:19 AM   #42
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Men fought against men in all except Five Armies?
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Old 06-15-2004, 01:22 AM   #43
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Nope. Congratulations on 1500 posts by the way.
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Old 06-15-2004, 04:46 AM   #44
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Old 06-18-2004, 12:24 AM   #45
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Anyone else want a go? It's both hard and easy, once you get it.
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Old 06-18-2004, 01:13 PM   #46
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Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
I am stymied I think... I had a vague idea about dead uncles (Thorin & Theoden ..)iuntill you specified that the relationship was between races..
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Old 06-18-2004, 05:02 PM   #47
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Pelennor fields was only battle where men fought versus orcs, no elves came too help them (save legolas)...the others included elves and other races
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:10 PM   #48
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Nope- think Elves and Dwarves.
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Old 06-19-2004, 04:32 AM   #49
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Elves and dwarves didn't fight together in the War of Wrath, even if it was only Gimli and Legolas on Pelennor.
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Old 06-19-2004, 08:03 PM   #50
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Nope- I can't remember the quote, but it says the dwarves of Durin's line fought on the side of the Elves.

*BIG hint*- the answer is the Battle of Five armies; now tell me why.
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It says they fought together in the Last Alliance, not the War of Wrath.
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Old 06-20-2004, 12:16 PM   #52
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only place the 4 races defended a place which they fueded for, showed unity in them and the end of Gundabad Orcs
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Old 06-21-2004, 12:49 AM   #53
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Really? Sorry about that, but it still wasn't what I had in mind NightKnight- my bad. Anyway, Gil-Galad has gotten it.
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Old 06-21-2004, 04:29 PM   #54
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oh goody...



battle of sudden flame
Fall of Gondolin
wakening of the Balrog
battle under the trees (ask me if you don't know what this is)
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Old 06-22-2004, 01:40 AM   #55
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What is the battle under the trees?

Anyway, I'll say it is the battle I don't know, because there were no fire-breathing creatures (dragons) or fire-scourges (balrogs) present?
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:59 AM   #56
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Battle under the trees was the Silvan "donation" to the war of the ring, Celeborn lead the lorien elves aganest Dol Guldur and during the battle he met Thranduil, who was leading the mirkwood elves, after the battle Galadriel threw down its gates and cleansed the land with her light...in the fourth age it was added to the land of LothLorien and called East Lorien, while Thranduil gained all the forest north of it...and no sorry
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Wakening of the Balrog (Durin's Bane?) - No elves.
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:05 AM   #58
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Old 06-26-2004, 12:11 PM   #59
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Well I am going to say it is the battle trees because it led to old strongholds / territory being regained. The elves reagained their old lands in Southern Mirkwood. But the others involved the loss/ destruction of stronghoilds/territory.... Gondolin self evidently, Awakening of the Balrog meant the Dwarves had to leave Moria (and many elves fled Lorien), the fortresses of Angrod and Aegnor and Maglor's Gap were lost during the battle of Sudden Flame...
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though they really didn't have any strongholds/territory there in the first place....nope!

you are actually rather close
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If you mean southern Mirkwood, I think that in UT it says something about Oropher having to move his people northwards from Amon Lanc ... but I don't have it on me and Oropher is one of those slightly iffy characters who complicate matters by going against what is said in the primary texts...... but I'll have another think..... but I fear that was my best shot....
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Wakening of the Balrog, then.

There was a great fire under the trees in Mirkwood.
Battle of Sudden Flame - Duh.
Fall of Gondolin - There was lots of fire and devastation there...
There is no account of any fire when the Balrog awoke.
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Hint: its what they did
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Old 07-02-2004, 12:27 PM   #64
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Don't feel this is different to my previous go but..... but... the battle under trees because it resulted in a place being cleansed whereas the others led to a place being degraded.....
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Old 07-04-2004, 04:34 PM   #65
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nope! come on its rather easy!
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Old 07-05-2004, 10:18 PM   #66
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Hint : it has to do with elves, so that rules out


battle of sudden flame
Fall of Gondolin

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Old 07-16-2004, 12:04 PM   #67
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BIG hint: instead of retreating they go forward!
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Hint: its Battle under the Trees, now tell me why!
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Old 07-21-2004, 07:42 PM   #69
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Battle under the trees because (long shot) Galadriel goes into Dol Guldur, showing that she charges into the castle/fort/stronghold. In the others, they're going away from it. As I said, a long shot!
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Perfect Aim! Battle under the Trees was the only ones where Elves, or any other free races, actually advance aganest teh evil, rather then retreat or be attacked! good job!
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Rightio! Here's the next batch:

War of Wrath
Battle of Bywater
Battle of Azanulbizar
Pelenor Fields
Fall of Gondolin
Battle of Five Armies



Quite a selection! Have fun!
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Pelenor fields was only place where another army joined in to help the Gondorians?
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No, and because there's so many options, I'll give a little hint with each wrong answer. It has nothing to do with Gondorians. I don't know if that helps, but it's a start
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War of the Wrath didn't involve men?
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No. It has nothing to do with the involvement of races
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The Battle of Bywater involved someone turning against his own side (Grima killing Saruman)?

And Perky, do you mean the Battle of Five Armies?
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So I did. And as for your question, nope. nothing to do with changing sides.
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the battle of five armies was the only one that bilbo was present?
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No, and it has nothing to do with the present-ness of people.
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