What are those creatures pulling Grond? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

01-12-2005, 08:11 AM

In the seige of osgiliat, When the Orcs are about to smash the gate open with Grond (the seige weapon) What are those creatures pulling it to the gate?. The looks like big Rinoes.

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-12-2005, 08:50 AM

Welcome to the Downs, Rekol.

Since Tolkien never describes the creatures in the book, this thread should probably be moved to the Movies forum. Although the question has been raised there once already:

Are They Rhinos?

In that thread, I speculated that their design is based upon the prehistoric mammal, Arsinotherium (and there's a link to some pictures).

Hope that helps.

Neithan · 01-12-2005, 09:20 AM

They explained the invention of the "great beasts" in one of the special features of the RotK EE. They did say that it was based on a prehistoric creature, could have been the Arsinotherium I can't remember.

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-12-2005, 12:07 PM

Since this is a movie question, I'm moving the thread to the Movies forum. Please continue to read and post there. Thanks!

Oddwen · 01-20-2005, 07:42 PM

Olinoceruses. :P

01-12-2005, 08:11 AM	#1
Rekol Guest Posts: n/a	What are thoes creatures pulling grond? In the seige of osgiliat, When the Orcs are about to smash the gate open with Grond (the seige weapon) What are those creatures pulling it to the gate?. The looks like big Rinoes.

01-12-2005, 08:50 AM	#2
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	Welcome to the Downs, Rekol. Since Tolkien never describes the creatures in the book, this thread should probably be moved to the Movies forum. Although the question has been raised there once already: Are They Rhinos? In that thread, I speculated that their design is based upon the prehistoric mammal, Arsinotherium (and there's a link to some pictures). Hope that helps. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-12-2005, 09:20 AM	#3
Neithan Wight Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 153	They explained the invention of the "great beasts" in one of the special features of the RotK EE. They did say that it was based on a prehistoric creature, could have been the Arsinotherium I can't remember. __________________ If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. Men will believe what they see.~Henry David Thoreau

01-12-2005, 12:07 PM	#4
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,645	Since this is a movie question, I'm moving the thread to the Movies forum. Please continue to read and post there. Thanks! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-20-2005, 07:42 PM	#5
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,246	Olinoceruses. :P __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door