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narfforc · 03-30-2005, 06:58 AM

Has anybody bothered translating the Runes on the walls of The Chamber of Mazarbul? or anywhere else in the films, I read a few bits about Eregion, but haven`t had time to examine it in depth.I froze my DVD player to read the runes on The Mouth of Saurons helmet, I believe it reads Lammen Gorthaur, which I think in Sindarin means Voice/My Tongue Dread Abomination. So the Voice of Sauron needs to avertise the fact. Gorthaur being the Sindarin form of the Quenya name Sauron (The Abhorred)

AbercrombieOfRohan · 03-30-2005, 07:12 AM

People have definitely translated it. There is a site out there that is dedicated to those translations, but alas I can't remember the name.

In the meantime you might find this helpful.

AbercrombieOfRohan · 03-30-2005, 01:48 PM

Haha! I found it... http://www.tolkiengeek.com/mazarbul.php

narfforc · 04-04-2005, 08:48 AM

Most of the above is about the book found in the chamber, most have a fair idea what it says (or should I say what it should say). My interest lies in what is written on the walls, I have tried to freeze my DVD, but huge segments of the walls are covered or too far away, I was wondering if anyone had seen, or have a full picture of any of the walls within the chamber. I have some of the details, but very little, mentioned for instance are:- Kheled-zaram, Azanulbizar, Khazad-dum, The Western Gate, Eregion, and The Noldor. Two other sentence`s are of intrigue, The first reads:- Second Age Five Hundred, this may allude to Sauron rising again. The second sentence reads:- Gold Smelter, I do not know what this means unless again it talks of the ring maker. I go now on The Quest of the Frozen DVD, to gain further knowledge( Unless someone has seen more).

Encaitare · 04-04-2005, 01:32 PM

Hither.

Melkor · 04-07-2005, 03:46 PM

I know the runes of Kazad-Dum but do not know the language can anyone give me a site where you can learn the language

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-07-2005, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melkor

I know the runes of Kazad-Dum but do not know the language can anyone give me a site where you can learn the language

No. It's a secret closely guarded by the Dwarves and the site is therefore heavily protected by Moon-letter passwords.

Encaitare · 04-07-2005, 05:15 PM

Melkor, this is pretty much all there is: Khuzdul.

Celebuial · 04-25-2005, 07:12 AM

Intersting thread. I wondered this my self but at the time I could barely remember any of the runres! Now I know them but I need to learn the language. I don't have time to do this right now, I'm about to take my final A-level exams, but I would be greatly interested in any thing you translate, Narfforc.

the guy who be short · 06-17-2005, 02:43 PM

Well, now that this thread has more or less served its purpose:

Did anybody else here freeze the DVD and translate the Book of Mazarbul, or was it just me and the owners of the above sites?

03-30-2005, 06:58 AM	#1
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,307	The Writing is on the Wall Has anybody bothered translating the Runes on the walls of The Chamber of Mazarbul? or anywhere else in the films, I read a few bits about Eregion, but haven`t had time to examine it in depth.I froze my DVD player to read the runes on The Mouth of Saurons helmet, I believe it reads Lammen Gorthaur, which I think in Sindarin means Voice/My Tongue Dread Abomination. So the Voice of Sauron needs to avertise the fact. Gorthaur being the Sindarin form of the Quenya name Sauron (The Abhorred)

04-04-2005, 01:32 PM	#5
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 2,033	This site is both spiffy and informative. Hither.

04-25-2005, 07:12 AM	#9
Celebuial Wight Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardiff during term time/Leicester in the holl's Posts: 130	Intersting thread. I wondered this my self but at the time I could barely remember any of the runres! Now I know them but I need to learn the language. I don't have time to do this right now, I'm about to take my final A-level exams, but I would be greatly interested in any thing you translate, Narfforc. __________________ Ú cilith ‘war. Ú men ‘war. Boe min mebi. Boe min bango.

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03-30-2005, 07:12 AM	#2
AbercrombieOfRohan Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 386	People have definitely translated it. There is a site out there that is dedicated to those translations, but alas I can't remember the name. In the meantime you might find this helpful.

03-30-2005, 01:48 PM	#3
AbercrombieOfRohan Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 386	Haha! I found it... http://www.tolkiengeek.com/mazarbul.php

04-04-2005, 08:48 AM	#4
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,307	Most of the above is about the book found in the chamber, most have a fair idea what it says (or should I say what it should say). My interest lies in what is written on the walls, I have tried to freeze my DVD, but huge segments of the walls are covered or too far away, I was wondering if anyone had seen, or have a full picture of any of the walls within the chamber. I have some of the details, but very little, mentioned for instance are:- Kheled-zaram, Azanulbizar, Khazad-dum, The Western Gate, Eregion, and The Noldor. Two other sentence`s are of intrigue, The first reads:- Second Age Five Hundred, this may allude to Sauron rising again. The second sentence reads:- Gold Smelter, I do not know what this means unless again it talks of the ring maker. I go now on The Quest of the Frozen DVD, to gain further knowledge( Unless someone has seen more).

04-07-2005, 03:46 PM	#6
Melkor Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MD Posts: 11	I know the runes of Kazad-Dum but do not know the language can anyone give me a site where you can learn the language

04-07-2005, 05:15 PM	#8
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 2,033	Melkor, this is pretty much all there is: Khuzdul.

06-17-2005, 02:43 PM	#10
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,496	Well, now that this thread has more or less served its purpose: Did anybody else here freeze the DVD and translate the Book of Mazarbul, or was it just me and the owners of the above sites?