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Old 12-15-2007, 09:09 AM   #401
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In that case is it Umbar? It had that monument to the defeat of Sauron.

It would have to be in the late first millenium, though.

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Old 12-15-2007, 09:13 AM   #402
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Indeed, it's Umbar. I was really wondering if no one knows about the monument.

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It would have to be in the late first millenium, though.
I couldn't have written, of course, "since year XY" because then it would've been obvious. Nevertheless, as long as Umbar was free, it was in my opinion obviously a destination every citizen of Arnor and Gondor must have dreamt of visiting.

You may continue this thread, Nerwen.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:47 PM   #403
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I'd have guessed Umbar first, only I wasn't sure about the dates.

Who was the father of Roäc?
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Old 12-16-2007, 03:56 AM   #404
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Cärc or something I think.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:22 AM   #405
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Yes... but without the umlaut.

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Old 12-17-2007, 12:40 AM   #407
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Aldarion's ship?

(You have me at a disadvantage with UT.)
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:57 AM   #408
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:17 AM   #409
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Yes, I know it belonged to someone else first, but I can't remember his name.

To what do Orofarnë, Lassemista and Carnimírië refer?
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:31 AM   #410
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These were trees (certain ones that used to grow in Fangorn).
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:35 AM   #411
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Yes– specifically, they're poetic names for the rowan.

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Old 12-19-2007, 11:53 AM   #412
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Aulë, Oromë, Yavanna, Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna), Manwë + Varda (or Irmo).

What am I talking about?
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:54 PM   #413
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Uh... Is Oromë meant to be in there twice?
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:19 AM   #414
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Yes, he is. There is this variant in parentheses behind him. *hint hint*
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Old 12-23-2007, 02:08 AM   #415
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'Nother hint, please.
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Oh my, don't tell me no one knows. Had I seen this line of names anywhere, that would be the first to pop up in my mind. It's what I consider a common knowledge among at least middle-Tolkien-educated fans.

The parentheses are variant writings. But even the first three should be obvious.

These are names of Valar, right? And that is all you need to know. Of WHICH Valar?

The placement of the names is based on something, though not necessarily to bother with that for solving the riddle. Because it also could be in different order, depending. Though I believe Aulë should be on the first place.

That was a hint.
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Um. In order of power from least to greatest? Maybe?
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Nay. Why would Oromë be there twice? And why would there be the parentheses? Btw the fact that Oromë is there twice, or in other words, there are two Oromës (includes hint), could help you if you think about it.

Okay, maybe if I write it another way, it will be more apparent:

1. Aulë
2. Oromë
3. Yavanna
4. Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna)
5. Manwë + Varda (or Irmo)
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*sigh* *eeek* That's just too bad. Reviving this thread if just anybody was in the mood to continue it...

I wonder anyway, if the question I posed was so hard - it's quite simply by itself - you have five names of Valar (or sometimes it's several names at once, but together, the pairs or singles or whatever still make up five), and also the names are chosen from among the Valar in the way that one has to just wonder what connects these Valar?
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These are the names of the Valar associated with the five Istari, according to Unfinished Tales.

1. Aulë - Curumo
2. Oromë - Alatar
3. Yavanna - Aiwendil
4. Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna) - Pallando
5. Manwë + Varda (or Irmo) - Olórin
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Very good! You are really good - and lately almost the only one - in answering my riddles, Azaghal. Please, could you give us a new riddle then?
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