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Huinesoron · 04-13-2019, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Password: Bombadil?

Hmm, which would rule out Barahir and Beren as the last pair... would Bombadil fit the theme because he is explicitly fatherless?

hS

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 11:53 AM

I dunno, but that's the only name which features all the highlighted letters.

I'll dig more.

Nope, found nothing else to match.

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 01:09 PM

...B... Pub locks out of order.
BUNGO: Mosquito absent but confused.
...M... Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
BILBO: Note in stirred hot water.
BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp.
BEREGOND: Hammer scrambles hard worker.
BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way.
BERGIL: Half as tall as old.

Indeed!

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Hmm, which would rule out Barahir and Beren as the last pair... would Bombadil fit the theme because he is explicitly fatherless?

hS

Yes, Bombadil is the fatherLESS. Not sure what your logic is for your first statement...

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 01:34 PM

Can't find any B character who matches the last two clues.....

Huinesoron · 04-13-2019, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Yes, Bombadil is the fatherLESS. Not sure what your logic is for your first statement...

'Neither of them has an M'.

... unless of course 3 is BEREN ERCHAMION, because Frodo lost only one finger, while he lost all 5.

I can see bar in BARAHIR, for pub, but can't get 'locks' from the last 4 letters.

hS

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 01:46 PM

The only other one with a 'bar' in his name is Barliman Butterbur.....

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 01:54 PM

Also, I've already made a new password set. I think you'd like the theme of my next one.

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

'Neither of them has an M'.

... unless of course 3 is BEREN ERCHAMION, because Frodo lost only one finger, while he lost all 5.

Which it, of course, is, because turns out not that many B father/son characters have M's in their names!

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Originally Posted by HS

I can see bar in BARAHIR, for pub, but can't get 'locks' from the last 4 letters.

It's a scramble of HAIR.

BARAHIR: Pub locks out of order.
BUNGO: Mosquito absent but confused.
BEREN ERCHAMION: Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
BILBO: Note in stirred hot water.
BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp.
BEREGOND: Hammer scrambles hard worker.
BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way.
BERGIL: Half as tall as old.

Theme: Fathers and Sons, Start with B
Password: Bombadil the Fatherless

I hope you enjoyed this one. From my side it was fun to see you try to find the themes and not wholly believe everything would just start with a B. Not quite the same level as the square passwords, but I thought a double theme is a neat idea.

Anyways, over to Urwen now. You got us all licking our lips with that promise.

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 02:59 PM

Then, I won't keep you waiting

1. A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
2. A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
3. He is like a rose, mixed up
4. Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
5. Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 04:09 PM

3. Saeros - near anagram of "a rose"?

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

3. Saeros - near anagram of "a rose"?

It's AS+ROSE, actually, but the answer is correct

1. A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
2. A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up
4. Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
5. Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 04:27 PM

4. Famous writers in plural makes me think Bronte... Brodda? Doesn't make sense for an article.

Also, the theme would then be "the jerks of Middle-earth (and specifically to the House of Hador)".

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

4. Famous writers in plural makes me think Bronte... Brodda? Doesn't make sense for an article.

Also, the theme would then be "the jerks of Middle-earth (and specifically to the House of Hador)".

Brodda is incorrect, and so is the theme. I very much doubt the solution to the first clue is a jerk - just the opposite, in fact. Also, #1 is of the House of Hador, so why would they be a jerk towards their own house?

For #4, think fairy tales.....

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

For #4, think fairy tales.....

Ah, Grima from Brothers Grimm.

I wasn't really serious about the theme but it would have been a fun one.

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 04:41 PM

2. Curunir / Saruman?

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 04:45 PM

1. A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
SARUMAN: A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up
GRIMA: Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
5. Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)

Now, the remaining two are the main reasons I picked this theme in particular. The other three just happened to fit the theme (and had the necessary letters for the password)

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 05:00 PM

Well, you revealed that that one is of the House of Hador, so there are limited options but I can't get any to fit the clue, and I don't think ranting them off is fair.

The other thing is that the password seems to be Hurin, Turin, or Durin. Neither contains the first letter for the other Man, so these can tentatively be ruled out. Still not sure what the theme is, aside from possibly shady characters (NOT jerks, fine

), and the younger branch of the house doesn't fit well with that.

So... how about #1. Tuor and Password = Turin?

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Well, you revealed that that one is of the House of Hador, so there are limited options but I can't get any to fit the clue, and I don't think ranting them off is fair.

The other thing is that the password seems to be Hurin, Turin, or Durin. Neither contains the first letter for the other Man, so these can tentatively be ruled out. Still not sure what the theme is, aside from possibly shady characters (NOT jerks, fine

), and the younger branch of the house doesn't fit well with that.

So... how about #1. Tuor and Password = Turin?

Both correct.

TUOR: A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
SARUMAN: A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up
GRIMA: Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
......N: Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)

Figuring out the theme might help you find the final one.

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 05:13 PM

Can you explain how the Tuor clue works? I still don't see it.

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 05:17 PM

The closest I can get to tying all these people together is being [nearly], literally or figuratively, stabbed in the back.

Not a very solid guess.

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Can you explain how the Tuor clue works? I still don't see it.

Way = Route. Take away it's tail, ie E, and you get Tuor.

As for the theme, it functions the same way your fathers and daughters theme does. There are three pairs of characters. Two of the people in those pairs did to other half of those pairs what was done to the final person.

This is the closest I can tell you without giving it completely away....

Pervinca Took · 04-13-2019, 05:21 PM

Turin killed Saeros.
Grima killed Saruman.
Maybe one of the remaining answers killed the other?

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Turin killed Saeros.
Grima killed Saruman.
Maybe one of the remaining answers killed the other?

Wasn't Tuor granted immortality to be with Idril?

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Way = Route. Take away it's tail, ie E, and you get Tuor.

Thanks!

Edit: ah, never mind, gotta be someone Tuor killed, not the other way around. MAEGLIN?

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Turin killed Saeros.
Grima killed Saruman.
Maybe one of the remaining answers killed the other?

See, I knew you guys would figure it out

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Wasn't Tuor granted immortality to be with Idril?

Thanks!

Edit: ah, never mind, gotta be someone Tuor killed, not the other way around. MAEGLIN?

TUOR: A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
SARUMAN: A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up
GRIMA: Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
MAEGLIN: Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)

Theme: Killers and their victims.
Password: Turin

My next clue was gonna be a reference to 'Tidbits of Curiosity' thread.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed the clues and the theme......

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Anyway, hope you enjoyed the clues and the theme......

I like the theme, it's original and a little outside the box. Kudos to Pervinca for figuring it out!

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I like the theme, it's original and a little outside the box. Kudos to Pervinca for figuring it out!

You know the drill. The next one is yours. Make it a good one.

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 05:44 PM

One last thing. The final one was supposed to go GLEAM (rearranged) + IN for the cryptic part

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

You know the drill. The next one is yours. Make it a good one.

This one is a little more back to the basics, but I don't think the topic has been done before.

1. A rough bunch note a number of weapons and one, a mess.
2. Jaw cracker darkened flower.
3. Smeagol drops Latin for Irish, after undergarment on fire.
4. Cry inside two articles, with (and without) direction.
5. Point trinket haphazardly to stream.

Pervinca Took · 04-14-2019, 07:33 AM

Have been out of the loop for a few days helping out a friend ... sorry I missed so much. Fantastic passwords and I *loved* the B-named fathers and sons. It was all solved by the time I got back, but was the fan Sam, (Frodo's biggest fan), and Frodo was also his fan's friend?

Urwen · 04-14-2019, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Have been out of the loop for a few days helping out a friend ... sorry I missed so much. Fantastic passwords and I *loved* the B-named fathers and sons. It was all solved by the time I got back, but was the fan Sam, (Frodo's biggest fan), and Frodo was also his fan's friend?

Did you like mine too? I'd say it's the one I am most proud of.

Pervinca Took · 04-14-2019, 07:41 AM

Of course! I said fantastic passwordS. Was it your first themed one, too?

Pervinca Took · 04-14-2019, 07:58 AM

4. Could be the cry O between THE and German accusative DEN, (Theoden), but not sure about the direction.

Pervinca Took · 04-14-2019, 08:08 AM

5. NNE + ring almost gives Nenning.

Galadriel55 · 04-14-2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Have been out of the loop for a few days helping out a friend ... sorry I missed so much. Fantastic passwords and I *loved* the B-named fathers and sons. It was all solved by the time I got back, but was the fan Sam, (Frodo's biggest fan), and Frodo was also his fan's friend?

Thanks! As I said earlier, it was inspired by your paired passwords. It was a great fun to make.

The fan is Sam, who keeps admiring Beren, and the fan's friend is Frodo.

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

5. NNE + ring almost gives Nenning.

Neither guess is correct, but this one has the right idea.

Pervinca Took · 04-14-2019, 09:22 AM

If something streams, it's RUNNING ...

Galadriel55 · 04-14-2019, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

If something streams, it's RUNNING ...

Or it's just a stream.

Urwen · 04-14-2019, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Of course! I said fantastic passwordS. Was it your first themed one, too?

Nope. The second. There was one before, but it wasn't as remarkable as this one.

Pervinca Took · 04-14-2019, 10:27 AM

Was the first before the one with Maeglin as the password?

Urwen · 04-14-2019, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Was the first before the one with Maeglin as the password?

Yes.

04-13-2019, 11:53 AM	#4882
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	I dunno, but that's the only name which features all the highlighted letters. I'll dig more. Nope, found nothing else to match. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 04-13-2019 at 12:04 PM.

04-13-2019, 01:09 PM	#4883
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	...B... Pub locks out of order. BUNGO: Mosquito absent but confused. ...M... Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price. BILBO: Note in stirred hot water. BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp. BEREGOND: Hammer scrambles hard worker. BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way. BERGIL: Half as tall as old. Indeed! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 01:34 PM	#4885
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Can't find any B character who matches the last two clues..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-13-2019, 01:46 PM	#4887
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	The only other one with a 'bar' in his name is Barliman Butterbur..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-13-2019, 01:54 PM	#4888
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Also, I've already made a new password set. I think you'd like the theme of my next one. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-13-2019, 02:59 PM	#4890
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	Then, I won't keep you waiting 1. A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed 2. A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names 3. He is like a rose, mixed up 4. Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him) 5. Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 04-13-2019 at 04:17 PM.

04-13-2019, 04:09 PM	#4891
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	3. Saeros - near anagram of "a rose"? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 04:27 PM	#4893
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	4. Famous writers in plural makes me think Bronte... Brodda? Doesn't make sense for an article. Also, the theme would then be "the jerks of Middle-earth (and specifically to the House of Hador)". __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 04:41 PM	#4896
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	2. Curunir / Saruman? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 04:45 PM	#4897
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	1. A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed SARUMAN: A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up GRIMA: Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him) 5. Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears) Now, the remaining two are the main reasons I picked this theme in particular. The other three just happened to fit the theme (and had the necessary letters for the password) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 04-13-2019 at 05:02 PM.

04-13-2019, 05:00 PM	#4898
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Thoughts on #1 Well, you revealed that that one is of the House of Hador, so there are limited options but I can't get any to fit the clue, and I don't think ranting them off is fair. The other thing is that the password seems to be Hurin, Turin, or Durin. Neither contains the first letter for the other Man, so these can tentatively be ruled out. Still not sure what the theme is, aside from possibly shady characters (NOT jerks, fine ), and the younger branch of the house doesn't fit well with that. So... how about #1. Tuor and Password = Turin? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 05:13 PM	#4900
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	Can you explain how the Tuor clue works? I still don't see it. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 05:17 PM	#4901
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,310	The closest I can get to tying all these people together is being [nearly], literally or figuratively, stabbed in the back. Not a very solid guess. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 05:21 PM	#4903
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Turin killed Saeros. Grima killed Saruman. Maybe one of the remaining answers killed the other? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-13-2019, 05:44 PM	#4908
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,376	One last thing. The final one was supposed to go GLEAM (rearranged) + IN for the cryptic part __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-14-2019, 07:33 AM	#4910
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Have been out of the loop for a few days helping out a friend ... sorry I missed so much. Fantastic passwords and I loved the B-named fathers and sons. It was all solved by the time I got back, but was the fan Sam, (Frodo's biggest fan), and Frodo was also his fan's friend? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-14-2019, 07:41 AM	#4912
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Of course! I said fantastic passwordS. Was it your first themed one, too? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-14-2019, 07:58 AM	#4913
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	4. Could be the cry O between THE and German accusative DEN, (Theoden), but not sure about the direction. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-14-2019, 08:08 AM	#4914
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	5. NNE + ring almost gives Nenning. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-14-2019, 09:22 AM	#4916
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	If something streams, it's RUNNING ... __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-14-2019, 10:27 AM	#4919
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Was the first before the one with Maeglin as the password? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."