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Old 03-07-2003, 12:33 PM   #281
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So, shall I put back my original post?

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(Helen votes) : yes
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This is too funny.......Pio gutting the Vala and having to hightail it out of town.

No, I draw the line there! You have to rescue your husband. Anyways, I just wrote half a post where I responded to the news about the message regarding Mithadan and Hob's wild ride.....as a prelue to talking with Lorien. I clicked the edit button and your post was missing. I thought I was hallucinating!!

OK, since everybody is being so nice and polite, I'll be the one to crack the whip here!!! Here are Cami's marching instructions.

1. I like the "mean" Pio better. Please take out the one where you're being nice to Lorien, and put in the one where you throw him out on his keester. Put it in the same slot. My post is also in that same slot so make sure not to delete it. I can tweek my post slightly to accomodate the following:

1. throwing a blanket and a few scraps of food to Lorien and telling him to go to the abandoned burrows until/if Pio calms down.

2. writing a letter to Frodo about Cami's guilt that she's dragged her friends into this mess.

Helen, you will still get a letter, just slightly modified.

3. Neither Cami or Pio will leave the Inn. They can each slam the door and go sulk in different directions.

4. Pio, put back your last post about rescuing Mithadan. Put it before mine, so mine will make sense.

I will edit my subsequent post slightly so that Cami goes trooping out to the deserted burrow on the Bywater pool and brings Lorien some brunch.

Hehe, I wonder how Mith will respond to his wife's crude treatment of the Vala?

Hope that is ok! If there are any more glitches I've missed, just stick a note here.

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Done - continue on
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Pio: Hurray! I like it. Especially the way you added that extra line that wove the twins (defensively but calmly)into your distance from Lorien-- it gives the impression that motherhood might actually calm Pio down somewhat.
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Be wary of making that assumption. It is not true.
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Hee hee hee. Al right.

Sam, Miz Rose and Gamgee kids: who's going to answer the door?
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If it's okay with everybody else, I'd like to have Sam answer the door. I'm about to leave, so I'll put in a save, and delete it if anybody objects.

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Orual,

Looks good.

Everyone,

I have filled in three of the back posts regarding Cami and Lorien. They practically wrote themselves. It is so much easier to rant!

I have one more to go--Cami's conversation with the Vala. Mith---if I do something awful to your character, please let me know and I'll edit. I probably won't get this post up till tomorrow evening, but I don't expect it to be a problem.

Helen--look at the letter to Frodo. I changed it slightly.

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Orual: I keep getting confused about the list of Sam's kids. The Encyclopaedia of Arda has this list:

Elanor
Frodo
Rose
Merry
Pippin
Goldilocks
Hamfast
Daisy (gestating).

Not yet conceived:
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Ruby
Robin
Tolman

Is that list correct? Since I don't have a copy of LOTR at work (I'd never get anything done if I did) I get stuck when I'm doing lunchtime posts...
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Ages of Sam's children:

Elanor - 12
Frodo - 10
Rose - 8
Merry - 6
Pippin - 4
Goldilocks - 2
Hamfast - 1
Daisy (gestating - dob: 1433)

Dates of birth for the others:

Primrose - 1435
Bilbo - 1436
Ruby - 1438
Robin - 1440
Tolman (Tom) - 1442
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Hasn't anyone ever heard of not slying the messesnger? Geez. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Well, you ARE a Vala, so you'd just sort of evaporate anyway. Which would be interesting to watch... Pio?
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Who will be going on the walk with Frodo?
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Helen--

I didn't include Frodo's reply to Sam's invitation in my post. If you want to just PM it to me, I could add it to my post, or I could just write it up. Either way. Just let me know!

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Frodo wil take as many kids on the walk as he can get.
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Thought I'd give make a list of Hobbits working at the Green Dragon:

Primrose "Prim" Bolger - took over as Innkeeper from Pio - not married

Ruby Burrows - server at the Inn and Prim's assistant - not married

Hob Hamfast - Inn's stablemaster, married to Minta Chubb - newlyweds, no children yet

"Cook" (Vinca Bunce) - widowed

Buttercup Brownlock - not married

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I just put up a save spot after Mark12_30. In this post Elanor will let her curiosity take the better of her. I am going to see tTT now, but when I get back I will type a post and put it in.
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ArwenBaggins, very nice post!
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Hey, Frodo and hobbit children. Cami is at Lorien's new burrow cleaning. She sure could use some help!

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Well done post!

Pio will be asking for you and Peony to see her this coming week sometime to discuss what needs to be done to prepare for the birth.

Bring the children - Hob and his wife Minta can get to know them.
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While the children pamper Lorien, Frodo and Cami are out talking on the bank of the pond. We've been out for a while; I wonder if Sam is getting restless. Mith, any special requests for next time we come and vbisit Lorien? Or would you like to add something in at this point?

Orual: I finally buckled, and today I shelled out the cost of the book that has the floor plan of Bag End. I scanned it in, and set it on my website:
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I figured this would help a great deal. I love the movie set, and this is the floor plan for it, and more... I'm unaware of a better one, though I'm open to suggestions.

ps. Warning, THEY ARE HUGE!! If anybody just can't get them let me know.

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Helen, a thousand thanks! What a labyrinth! I'd been picturing something much simpler, but this makes sense--with eight children (going on thirteen, eventually), Sam needs every one of those spare rooms. What a lovely place--I'd like to live there.

And nearly equally interesting was John Howe's speculation on bathrooms in the Shire. LoL!

Again, many thanks. This will help a lot.

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Dragoneyes, I talked to Orual, and she likes the idea of Pippin coming to Bag End so that Sam, Frodo and Pippin can all spend some time. So-- let's go for it. You figure out when Pippin can be on the road to Bag End.

I wonder if Bilbo would come too.
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Bilbo will be happy to oblige. When will you do this on the game thread? When would you like Bilbo to appear t Bag-end? Please advise.

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Not sure yet. Frodo and Sam are scheduled for a get-together this afternoon (game time.) I'm waiting on Dragoneyes to tell me what she wants Pippin to do when. I was expecting either this evening or tomorrow, a four- or five- some at Bag End (who's playing Merry these days, Child) and (will Pippin invite Merry to come, Dragoneyes?)
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Pio is at present (post not up yet) trying to come to some understanding of what she can do to take care of this problem with Lorien she has started with her unthinking response to his announcement.

Can Cami arrange/ mediate some sort of meeting between the two for its resolve.

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It would be helpful to me if I had some inkling as to what Lorien's perspective on this is.
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Helen -

Anyone can pick up the character of Merry to use in their posts. No one is really playing him.

Will that be alright for your needs?

Or, if you wish, I can pick him up again and post for him.
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Lorien has not the slightest clue why everyone is so angry at him. From his perspective, he came for a purpose (which was not his idea and with which he had his doubts), was asked about it by Cami and answered. Pio and Bird happened to be present at the time he was asked.

His delay in speaking of it is attributable to his being unused to the passage of time in the "mortal lands". Nor could he conceive that his "good deed" could be construed as anything other than an act of kindness. What he has brought to the table is the best the Valar could offer and he is shocked at the reception it has received.

His manner of presentation of the offer is a result of both his lack of everyday contact with Men and his use of the Common Tongue. The latter is a language he does not speak in Valinor. While he can use it to communicate, he lacks the expertise to infuse his words with compassion; an analogy is learning a language through books rather than everyday use. Combined with his unfamiliarity with the way Men commonly interact, his words seem cold and imperious.

As for his drunkeness, in Valinor, he could drink a boatload of mead and be pretty much unaffected. The effect that drinking has on his body in Middle Earth is a surprise to him.
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Good idea, Pio.

Helen, have Frodo suggest to Cami that she try to set up such a meeting. I will respond positively and take it from there.

I have revised the Bilbo post to broach a later theme and repasted it on the thread.

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Would it be possible just to have Pio ride out to find you? Setting up a meeting isn't her style - can this be more spontaneous?
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That sounds right to me too, Pio. The tricky part is finding Cami since she didn't tell you where she sent Lorien-- or did she?
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Well . . . how about a little osanwë here? surely the headachey Vala must be broadcasting his whereabouts to anyone tuned in.

Pio wouldn't actually ask Cami to assist her. She will be more likely to ride out and find him, then speak with the Vala directly If Cami happens to be there that would be good.
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Ignoring the express wishes of her rider, 'Falmar wanders over to Cami and noses her in the back.

Carrot? Apple?, she wonders, and stomps her hoof . . .
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Just got back from an aftenoon at the rodeo....I will answer the door for Pio, and throw my two cents in.

Helen----can I assume that Frodo and crew have left Lorien's burrow. That is what I'll say. If that's wrong and they're still there, please tell me and I'll edit to say they are playing and relaxing in the back.

That was a great ending to Frodo and Cami's conversation! Will leave as is without adding anything.

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Cami-- sure, Frodo and kids can be gone. I need to get them home anyway, and sit down with Sam. Poor Bilbo is alone all this time! I wonder how he's doing.
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I added the goodbyes at the end of your own post, after the children helped to clean the burrow.

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Pio or Mithadan (whoever posts next in this sequence),

I've chatted a bit with Pio, and Lorien has just come in the door.

Cami has a request. Her nesting instinct is coming to the fore. (Such instincts are quite strong among hobbits, I believe.) Any chance of getting Lorien invited back into the Inn?

Cami has another idea what to do with that deserted burrow....

You are both welcome to use my character in your posts if it would help bridge the gap between Pio and the Vala.

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Old 03-10-2003, 03:43 AM   #320
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Pio has duly apologised and asked forgiveness of Irmo. And better yet, she has extended an invitation to the both of them to come to supper at the Inn.

At this point, if Cami wishes, she can assume that it is alright with Pio that Lorien come back to the Inn. (Or she can run out and ask Pio before she takes off on her horse, and you can have Pio say 'yes'.)

Pio does not assume that this apology will be accepted or the request for forgiveness fulfilled by the Vala. It does set the parameters for the rest of their interactions. She will be gracious and civil to him, but no closer than that.

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